School Prayer

[Archivist]

I am saying that people who would object to the Lord's Prayer are unreasonable, in my opinion, because I can't see anything offensive about it.

But of course you aren’t unreasonable if you refuse to face Mecca and pray to Allah.

 

[Archivist]

I've insisted on nothing. I think a daily recitation of the Lord's Prayer would be a good idea - isn't it the perfect prayer, and it only takes up a few seconds of time. Someone could simply ask the Lord's guidance.

It is a Christian prayer, not a prayer for Jews, Muslims et al. You are talking about forcing Christianity on non-Christians.

 

[dreadnought]

But of course you aren’t unreasonable if you refuse to face Mecca and pray to Allah.

The prayer wouldn't be subject to rules and regulations by Jews, Christians, or Muslims. It would just be a moment to ask the Lord's guidance.

 

[dreadnought]

It is a Christian prayer, not a prayer for Jews, Muslims et al. You are talking about forcing Christianity on non-Christians.

I see nothing Christian about it. It's a prayer that would benefit everybody.

 

[Archivist]

The prayer wouldn't be subject to rules and regulations by Jews, Christians, or Muslims. It would just be a moment to ask the Lord's guidance.

Except you are proposing the use of a Christian prayer. That is establishment of religion. Can’t do it.

 

[Archivist]

I see nothing Christian about it. It's a prayer that would benefit everybody.

You don’t see anything Christian about the Lord’s Prayer? Really? I presume that you do know who originally spoke the words of the Lord’s Prayer.

 

[dreadnought]

Except you are proposing the use of a Christian prayer. That is establishment of religion. Can’t do it.

Asking God to help us isn't establishment of religion. Where would any of us be without his help?

 

[dreadnought]

You don’t see anything Christian about the Lord’s Prayer? Really? I presume that you do know who originally spoke the words of the Lord’s Prayer.

Nothing in the prayer should offend anybody of any religion, near as I can tell. Is there something in the prayer that you think would offend someone?

 

[Rajni]

Reciting the Lord's prayer daily can only help, I would think.

Privately, as Jesus instructed, sure.

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[Archivist]

Asking God to help us isn't establishment of religion. Where would any of us be without his help?

Requiring a Christian prayer in a public school iolates the establishment clause.

 

[Archivist]

Nothing in the prayer should offend anybody of any religion, near as I can tell. Is there something in the prayer that you think would offend someone?

That has been answered before and you apparently don’t get it.

 

[dreadnought]

Privately, as Jesus instructed, sure.

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The words would help anybody who listened to them. The Lord commanded us to go out and make disciples of all nations, didn't he?

 

[dreadnought]

Requiring a Christian prayer in a public school iolates the establishment clause.

It's a prayer for all people.

 

[dreadnought]

That has been answered before and you apparently don’t get it.

I don't see a single word in the prayer that should bother anyone on earth.

 

[Archivist]

It's a prayer for all people.

No, it is a Christian prayer.

 

[Archivist]

I don't see a single word in the prayer that should bother anyone on earth.

You aren’t looking very close.

 

[dreadnought]

No, it is a Christian prayer.

Which word or phrase in the prayer makes it a Christian prayer, as opposed to a prayer for all people?

 

[dreadnought]

You aren’t looking very close.

Then educate me.

 

[Rajni]

The words would help anybody who listened to them. The Lord commanded us to go out and make disciples of all nations, didn't he?

He also commanded us to pray in private.

 

[dreadnought]

He also commanded us to pray in private.

You missed the context of what he said. His point was that you mustn't pray to show off. Would you really abolish church prayer?