Save a homosexual's soul!

[ReformedChapin]

Easier said than done to do that, hating someone seems alot easier than loving them for many people. And to think they think that they are doing good for God by attacking homosexuals and labeling them "worse" than the rest of us. I would become an activist in that aspect, to stop racism and discrimination.

No conservative woud ever state that homosexuals are "worse than us." But we would follow scripture and state their sin is an abomination and they should repent.

 

[ReformedChapin]

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[Ohioprof]

No conservative woud ever state that homosexuals are "worse than us." But we would follow scripture and state their sin is an abomination and they should repent.

Except that not everyone reading the Bible agrees that this is what it says. Interpretations differ, remember?

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

To some degree.Yeah Yall think you're healthy in every way and completely indestructable.



Biblically speaking,based upon the things that you have said, your spiritual health is on the decline. And as long as you keep challenging God's Word as the standard of your life, it will continue to decline

How so? Because it seems like I'm only spiritually unhealthy because you don't agree with my beliefs.

Do you believe it's right to separate the Church into congregations?

 

[ReformedChapin]

Except that not everyone reading the Bible agrees that this is what it says. Interpretations differ, remember?

That's why I said conservatives...duhr

 

[Zaac]

How so? Because it seems like I'm only spiritually unhealthy because you don't agree with my beliefs.

You're spiritually unhealthy because you've exhibited a consistent testimony that runs contrary to God's Word

Do you believe it's right to separate the Church into congregations?

Nothing to do with this thread at current. So unless you want to explain why you brought that up...

 

[tulc]

No conservative woud ever state that homosexuals are "worse than us." But we would follow scripture and state their sin is an abomination and they should repent.

So now you not only define who/what liberals believe/don't believe you also define who is/ isn't a conservative and what they do/don't do?
tulc(that must keep you busy)

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

You're spiritually unhealthy because you've exhibited a consistent testimony that runs contrary to God's Word



Nothing to do with this thread at current. So unless you want to explain why you brought that up...

I can answer the entire statement by explaining the second part actually. Christianity, as much as I don't like it, is split into denominations for a reaosn. Because everyone believes differently. You and I believe differently. So because of that there is no "My denomination is right and yours isn't" because it's split so to prevent that. I believe that God's Word is not inerrant because of the imperfections of man. And you believe it's completely infallible. Fine. But you can't tell me I'm spiritually unhealthy because I don't match your beliefs because my beliefs aren't the same.

Understand?

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

No conservative woud ever state that homosexuals are "worse than us." But we would follow scripture and state their sin is an abomination a

Should I bring up Westboro Baptists or just let it go?

(Before anyone twists what I'm saying, Westboro Baptists are conservatives. Guess what they say.)

 

[Zaac]

I can answer the entire statement by explaining the second part actually. Christianity, as much as I don't like it, is split into denominations for a reaosn. Because everyone believes differently.

Denominations developed out of a desire to have a different STYLE of worship. The theology and the doctrine, with the exception of how they worship, are essentially the same.

They all believe the Bible to be God's Word.

You and I believe differently. So because of that there is no "My denomination is right and yours isn't" because it's split so to prevent that.

This is an irrelevant point as I have never mentioned right or wrong from a denominational standpoint but from the standpoint of what God's Word says.

I believe that God's Word is not inerrant because of the imperfections of man.

What denomination are you or is this something you just personally feel?

And you believe it's completely infallible. Fine. But you can't tell me I'm spiritually unhealthy because I don't match your beliefs because my beliefs aren't the same.

Understand?

Your spiritual unhealthiness is the result of you being at odds with what God says, not with what I believe. You lack faith that God's Word is His Word, and thus you're freed up to justify doing whatever you want.

Absent this Word that you believe to be fallible, you have no frame of reference for the person of Jesus Christ. This makes it impossible to have an intimate relationship with Him.

Spiritual unhealthiness is always marked by a rejection of the Truth given by God.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

Denominations developed out of a desire to have a different STYLE of worship. The theology and the doctrine, with the exception of how they worship, are essentially the same.

They all believe the Bible to be God's Word.



This is an irrelevant point as I have never mentioned right or wrong from a denominational standpoint but from the standpoint of what God's Word says.




What denomination are you or is this something you just personally feel?





Your spiritual unhealthiness is the result of you being at odds with what God says, not with what I believe. You lack faith that God's Word is His Word, and thus you're freed up to justify doing whatever you want.

Absent this Word that you believe to be fallible, you have no frame of reference for the person of Jesus Christ. This makes it impossible to have an intimate relationship with Him.

Spiritual unhealthiness is always marked by a rejection of the Truth given by God.

I'm afraid you're wrong there. Several denominations pick and choose out of the Bible and a couple don't believe at all. Again, I keep being accused of being spiritually unhealthy based on personally beliefs, which makes absolutely no sense. I have no denominations, because I don't support them mostly, but also because there is none which lines up with what I believe anyway (most denominations don't believe God treats us as equals and will judge us as equals from what I've found).

I realize it's difficult to believe, but not everyone believes the same as you.

 

[davedjy]

Again, I keep being accused of being spiritually unhealthy based on personally beliefs, which makes absolutely no sense.

I would take that as a personal attack, which shouldn't be acceptable in this forum! Saying that you aren't "spiritually healthy" is also not a debate point to be made here.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

I would take that as a personal attack, which shouldn't be acceptable in this forum! Saying that you aren't "spiritually healthy" is also not a debate point to be made here.

You would, but I don't. It's his belief. He can keep it.

 

[tulc]

Spiritual unhealthiness is always marked by a rejection of the Truth given by God.

Who gets to decide which "truths given by God" it is ok to reject?
tulc(kind of curious)

 

[tulc]

You would, but I don't. It's his belief. He can keep it.

Wll said sis!
tulc(saves a lot of aggravation don't it?)

 

[ReformedChapin]

Who gets to decide which "truths given by God" it is ok to reject?
tulc(kind of curious)

Athiest liberals of course

 

[Ohioprof]

Denominations developed out of a desire to have a different STYLE of worship. The theology and the doctrine, with the exception of how they worship, are essentially the same.

They all believe the Bible to be God's Word.



This is an irrelevant point as I have never mentioned right or wrong from a denominational standpoint but from the standpoint of what God's Word says.




What denomination are you or is this something you just personally feel?





Your spiritual unhealthiness is the result of you being at odds with what God says, not with what I believe. You lack faith that God's Word is His Word, and thus you're freed up to justify doing whatever you want.

Absent this Word that you believe to be fallible, you have no frame of reference for the person of Jesus Christ. This makes it impossible to have an intimate relationship with Him.

Spiritual unhealthiness is always marked by a rejection of the Truth given by God.

Your post is inaccurate. Christianity split into denominations often as a result of intense disputes over doctrinal issues. In the 19th century, one of the big doctrinal divides was how people are saved. Calvinists argued that people are saved by grace alone, and God alone chooses the elect. People can do nothing to ensure their salvation; only God chooses who is saved. Other denominations adopted a more Arminian view of salvation, insisting that people can choose to be saved, through faith. The Methodists were always Arminian in theology, in contrast to the Puritans, who were Calvinist. Both Calvinist and Arminian Protestants denounced Catholics, whom they accused of believing in salvation by works. And most Protestants denounced Universalists for believing in universal salvation.

The issue of slavery also divided American Christians and split several Protestant sects apart. The Baptists and the Presbyterians split apart over the issue of slavery. That's why we have the Southern Baptist Convention, with pro-slavery roots, and the American Baptist Convention, with anti-slavery roots, today.

Another doctrinal issue that split Christians into separate denominations was the issue of the Trinity. The descendants of the Puritans who believed in the Trinity formed the Congregational Church in New England, while the descendants of the Puritans who did not believe in the Trinity formed the Unitarian Church in New England.

The Disciples of Christ were founded as an effort to eliminate denominational divisions over doctrine and to bring all Christians together. The early Disciples, led by Alexander and Thomas Campbell, rejected sectarianism. Ironically, they wound up becoming another sect. But the Disciples are a non-creedal church, because of their effort to bridge the divides among Christians over creeds.

 

[davedjy]

Athiest liberals of course

You must be an Atheist Liberal if you disagree on any of the fundamentals, you know!

"It's fun playing a Conservative!"

 

[Zaac]

I'm afraid you're wrong there. Several denominations pick and choose out of the Bible and a couple don't believe at all.

These are called CULTS. They are not denominations. You pick and choose out of the Bible and don't believe that it's God's Word and is thus infallible because it was written by men.

Again, I keep being accused of being spiritually unhealthy based on personally beliefs, which makes absolutely no sense.

If there is no spirtual standard of absolute truth in your life, you have no absolute measure of what is right and what is wrong. And when people lack this, they don't repent because they don't think they have done anything wrong.

And absent repentence of sin, there is indeed spiritual unhealthiness.

I have no denominations, because I don't support them mostly, but also because there is none which lines up with what I believe anyway (most denominations don't believe God treats us as equals and will judge us as equals from what I've found).

You're supposed to line up with what God says. I don't know why everyone thinks they get to be God. What you believe is irrelevant and this is why so many folks who call themselves Christians look NOTHING like Jesus Christ. Too many folks think that what they believe trumps what Jesus says just because they don't "believe" His Word is His Word.

Do you share the Gospel with others? Where does your knowledge of this Gospel come from?

I realize it's difficult to believe, but not everyone believes the same as you.

Spoken like a child who does not listen. Once again, you haven't seen a single place where I've encouraged anyone to believe what I say, but rather what the Word of God says.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

Wll said sis!
tulc(saves a lot of aggravation don't it?)

Thanks bro! It does indeed.