Save a homosexual's soul!

[TheFathersDaughter]

Oh I listen. I listen and I take in every word and look in awe at the confusion that has filthied your young mind because you are in this forum having it sullied by a group of people who themselves have no moral compass and standard of absolute Truth.

By the way you respond, I don't feel you listen. Or that you're listening only on your own terms. If you really were listening, again, age would not matter to you. You'd be disagreeing with my beliefs but it would be just because of my beliefs. You wouldn't have to say anything about me being 16, or telling me how you think I have an impressionable young mind.

I don't want to hide my age because I don't want to hide who I am just to avoid criticism.

 

[Zaac]

Considering that the word "homosexual" has been around for only 137 years (after being invented by Karl Ulrichs), it shouldn't be hard to prove what has been translated as "homosexual" and "homosexuality" in Scripture is not a committed same-sex relationship!

The issue is not committed same-sex relationships. I have male friends with whom I'm in committed same-sex relationships. But the relationships are not SEXUAL.

It's very easy to prove that the acts described are fornication and that is applied to any sexual relationship outside of God-defined marriage between a man and a woman to whom he has become as one flesh.

 

[tulc]

Oh I listen. I listen and I take in every word and look in awe at the confusion that has filthied your young mind because you are in this forum having it sullied by a group of people who themselves have no moral compass and standard of absolute Truth.

As opposed to someone with a moral compass mocking her because she's young? You don't agree with her argument? Explain why. If you can't explain how does mockery demonatrate your "moral compass"?
tulc(seriously I'm curious)

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

By the way, I apologize if my beliefs offend you. I won't change them and I'm not going to hide them because I don't want to give you the wrong idea. But I am sorry you feel offended by them.

 

[Zaac]

Uhmmm but I asked you. If you can't answer that's fine but why mock her for your inability?
tulc(thinks doing that kind of sad in someone making fun of someone else for being young)

And I responded to you and told you where to go if you wanted an answer.

She hasn't been mocked. She's the source of the answer to your question.

 

[Zaac]

By the way you respond, I don't feel you listen. Or that you're listening only on your own terms. If you really were listening, again, age would not matter to you. You'd be disagreeing with my beliefs but it would be just because of my beliefs. You wouldn't have to say anything about me being 16, or telling me how you think I have an impressionable young mind.

I don't want to hide my age because I don't want to hide who I am just to avoid criticism.

FD, I do listen. ANd I mean to EVERYTHING and it's all taken in. But I'll repeat something that you may not know. When you're dealing with someone who has the gift of prophecy---that is someone who delivers and proclaims God's truth---it doesn't matter what you say if what you say contradicts what God's Word says.

Your age matters because you're speaking untruth. Speak God's truth and you will be looked upon as wise no matter what your age.

You do have an impressionable young mind that is being influenced by some old stubborn minds in this forum.

 

[tulc]

And I responded to you and told you where to go if you wanted an answer.

She hasn't been mocked. She's the source of the answer to your question.

Ahhh! You know that answer was probably a lot clearer in your head. Because out here in the fora? It just comes across as ...no answer at all.
tulc(but thanks for playing, when your argument can be typed with your own fingers I'll be glad to read it)

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

FD, I do listen. ANd I mean to EVERYTHING and it's all taken in. But I'll repeat something that you may not know. When you're dealing with someone who has the gift of prophecy---that is someone who delivers and proclaims God's truth---it doesn't matter what you say if what you say contradicts what God's Word says.

Your age matters because you're speaking untruth. Speak God's truth and you will be looked upon as wise no matter what your age.

You do have an impressionable young mind that is being influenced by some old stubborn minds in this forum.

And what if you deal with someone with the gift of faith. That's someone who believes in something no matter what stands in their way. You call it stubborn. But I disagree.

 

[Zaac]

By the way, I apologize if my beliefs offend you. I won't change them and I'm not going to hide them because I don't want to give you the wrong idea. But I am sorry you feel offended by them.

Sweetie, I apologize also if you are offended by my responses. You have not offended me. But as a deliverer of God's truth, I am not given the option of being indirect.

There is no gray area when dealing with truth.

I am saddened at the number of people who essentially have no Christian witness though because they can't get past God's inspired Word being written down by fallible men.

Absent faith that His Word is His Word, there is no Gospel to deliver. What is there to be said to the nonbeliever about faith in a Jesus Christ who died and rose again on the third day when the person attempting to deliver this message doesn't even believe that though He defeated death and the grave, He's not capable of maintaining something as simple as His Word?

So I ask, what is your testimony absent the truth of the Gospel?

 

[D.W.Washburn]

The issue is not committed same-sex relationships. I have male friends with whom I'm in committed same-sex relationships. But the relationships are not SEXUAL.

It's very easy to prove that the acts described are fornication and that is applied to any sexual relationship outside of God-defined marriage between a man and a woman to whom he has become as one flesh.

God didn't define marriage.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

Sweetie, I apologize also if you are offended by my responses. You have not offended me. But as a deliverer of God's truth, I am not given the option of being indirect.

There is no gray area when dealing with truth.

I am saddened at the number of people who essentially have no Christian witness though because they can't get past God's inspired Word being written down by fallible men.

Absent faith that His Word is His Word, there is no Gospel to deliver. What is there to be said to the nonbeliever about faith in a Jesus Christ who died and rose again on the third day when the person attempting to deliver this message doesn't even believe that though He defeated death and the grave, He's not capable of maintaining something as simple as His Word?

So I ask, what is your testimony absent the truth of the Gospel?

Faith is belief in something with no evidence. It's easy to spread the story of Christ through the Bible. The hard part is getting people to believe in it. Most people don't believe the Bible, and so don't have faith. But that's what's most important. I have a reason for faith, and I know that God has something great planned for me. I don't need anyone telling God wants to help me when I'm living it.

 

[Zaac]

Ahhh! You know that answer was probably a lot clearer in your head. Because out here in the fora? It just comes across as ...no answer at all.
tulc(but thanks for playing, when your argument can be typed with your own fingers I'll be glad to read it)

That answer came out exactly as I intended. I've said it before. I am more than capable of saying EXACTLY what I intend to say.

 

[Zaac]

Faith is belief in something with no evidence. It's easy to spread the story of Christ through the Bible. The hard part is getting people to believe in it.

As a Christian, you're not tasked of God to make people believe. That's what HE does.

Most people don't believe the Bible, and so don't have faith.

You're not called of God to make people believe the Bible. You shouldn't expect lost people to believe the Bible.

But that's what's most important.

What's most important?

I have a reason for faith, and I know that God has something great planned for me. I don't need anyone telling God wants to help me when I'm living it.

You ever wonder why God in His Word tells us to test the spirits?

 

[Zaac]

God didn't define marriage.

He sure did. You may not accept it. But He starts in Genesis giving a definition of man/woman marriage and the theme continues throughout the OT and the NT.

 

[davedjy]

He sure did. You may not accept it. But He starts in Genesis giving a definition of man/woman marriage and the theme continues throughout the OT and the NT.

Never does the Bible say that marriage is only between a man and a woman.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

As a Christian, you're not tasked of God to make people believe. That's what HE does.



You're not called of God to make people believe the Bible. You shouldn't expect lost people to believe the Bible.




What's most important?



You ever wonder why God in His Word tells us to test the spirits?

I think you are. To get people to believe so that they can experience that joy and relief. That is part of our purpose, no matter who we are. We introduce God and God does the rest. But first they have to trust that He exists.

I try not wonder about things.

 

[Zaac]

Never does the Bible say that marriage is only between a man and a woman.

If He tells you what marriage is, He doesn't have to tell you what it is not.

Of all the times He shows a man joining with a woman in marriage, not once is there an instance of a man joining with a man in marriage.

Why? Because God is a God of order and not confusion. His plan for populating the earth and spreading the Gospel was through Christians having children and raising them in the ways of Christ and they in turn do the same?

Same sex marriage authors confusion in the face of God's plan and thus is not of God.

And try as all may, there is no Biblical defense for marriage of any sort other than one man with one woman.

 

[Zaac]

I think you are. To get people to believe so that they can experience that joy and relief.

Take it from someone who knows by the Wod of God. Jesus draws men unto Himself. Christians are but the vessel He uses to deliver theTruth that is His Word that makes men free.

If I could easily convince someone that God's Word is His Word and that the things that it says are all true, they still wouldn't be saved.

You lack the power to save anyone. Only Jesus Christ can change the heart.

That is part of our purpose, no matter who we are. We introduce God and God does the rest. But first they have to trust that He exists.

That's not the way God does things. As His Word says, 32But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself." John 12:32

If we're lucky, He uses us to deliver His truth that sets men free because HE chooses to set them free.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

Take it from someone who knows by the Wod of God. Jesus draws men unto Himself. Christians are but the vessel He uses to deliver theTruth that is His Word that makes men free.

If I could easily convince someone that God's Word is His Word and that the things that it says are all true, they still wouldn't be saved.

You lack the power to save anyone. Only Jesus Christ can change the heart.



That's not the way God does things. As His Word says, 32But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself." John 12:32

If we're lucky, He uses us to deliver His truth that sets men free because HE chooses to set them free.

I never said I plan to save anyone. Just to help them find God. I don't need to save them. But I can't just leave them either.

 

[davedjy]

If He tells you what marriage is, He doesn't have to tell you what it is not.

This is EASILY the biggest cop-out for what I just said. If gays and lesbians were trying to marry each other back in Biblical times, then those same sex marriage issues could have been addressed very easily and condemned. Case and point, they weren't part of the historical culture of the time, nor were they brought up.