Salvation vs : service.

[BNR32FAN]

They are important to you and Bnr32fan.

Hes counts my likes and you help him talk about it.

Grow up.

Yeah I just wanted the actual number to be revealed. You have 40 threads and 25 likes which means you have an average of less than 1 like per thread.

 

[Ligurian]

I think it was the first day i joined the fourm....... what a month ago?
It was during that last week that the Arabs were shooting the final rockets toward Tel Aviv and the media was blaming Israel for causing it. Same week i showed up here.

Too much information, dude.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Just use the verse.
Avoid the commentary.

What commentary? I don’t use commentaries I just explained the verse in context.

 

[Sidon]

When we’re they chosen?

By God in Heaven.

Jesus then found them.
Generally He would find them and say. "Follow me".
Peter was a bit different, as his brother's took him to Jesus.

 

[BNR32FAN]

1.) Listen,...... Pope's had Christians burned alive.....Just ask JOAN OF ARC.

THE CC had this Christian BURNED ALIVE. Later, they decided she is a "Saint", and they devote Catholic Days" to their "saint Joan of Arc".
= Kinda too late to keep her from feeling the FIRE and screaming till she dies while the Bishops stood there smiling and enjoyed it........., dont you think?
This made the current POPE really happy also.
Now of course, "Saint Joan is honored" by the "church" that murder her in the first place.
Can you smell the Hypocrisy?
It stinks in God's nostrils

What does any of this have to do with me or my theology?

 

[Sidon]

Too much information, dude.

Is it?
And just think, i have to keep repeating it to this member, since the 1st day im here.
Maybe you can pm him and say...>"hey, stop talking about the "dudes', Likes, and stop bringing up that born again shooter, 20 times."..

Alright then.
If you have a legit NT question to ask me that isn't about a symbolic verse, from "the Revelation", then that would be great.
Start any time you like.

 

[Sidon]

Absolutely the blood of Christ does not keep someone saved.

Thats a Cross rejecting lie.
You need to find out why.

 

[BNR32FAN]

By God in Heaven.

Jesus then found them.
Generally He would find them and say. "Follow me".
Peter was a bit different, as his brother's took him to Jesus.

They were chosen before the foundation of the world. Basically they were chosen before creation by God which included all Three personalities of the Trinity. The entire plan had already been laid out before anyone was created.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Thats a Cross rejecting lie.
You need to find out why.

Answer the questions and prove me wrong.

 

[Sidon]

Well in one breath you say that all sins are forgiven then in the next breath you say that you don’t preach a license to sin.

Try to get this straight.

I teach this, as Paul teaches.

"""""but now being MADE FREE FROM SIN, you have your fruit unto holiness and the end, everlasting life".""""""

SO, the reason you sin and confess, is because that verse is not talking about you.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Thats a Cross rejecting lie.
You need to find out why.

You need to find out what it means to be “in Christ”.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Try to get this straight.

I teach this, as Paul teaches.

"""""but now being MADE FREE FROM SIN, you have your fruit unto holiness and the end, everlasting life".""""""

SO, the reason you sin and confess, is because that verse is not talking about you.

Are you trying to say that a born again person can’t sin?

 

[Sidon]

From the Kingdom Gospel standpoint... yeah, the shooter's not gonna make it.

Bnr32fan, has what i call the "Hitler rash".

A lot of people who are very religious, can't stand the idea that HITLER might have "called on the name of Jesus, and was born again".

They can't stand this idea, because, they dont understand the Love of God and the Sacrifice that God made on the Cross.
The idea is...."How can God, How DARE GOD, "for God so loved the world", (including Hitler).

This gives them a rash in their flesh because the Grace of God is not a part of their theological Faith.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Bnr32fan, has what i call the "Hitler rash".

A lot of people who are very religious, can't stand the idea that HITLER might have "called on the name of Jesus, and was born again".

They can't stand this idea, because, they dont understand the Love of God and the Sacrifice that God made on the Cross.
The idea is...."How can God, How DARE GOD, "for God so loved the world", (including Hitler).

This gives them a rash in their flesh because the Grace of God is not a part of their theological Faith.

Wow you think Hitler is going to be in heaven. Did Hitler abide in Christ, or is abiding in Christ just optional to you?

 

[Sidon]

Hallelujah the whole world is going to be saved. .

Well, the verse was correct, but your interpretation isn't.

John 3:16, says that """for God so loved the world"", not just the predestined elect.

The Sacrifice of God on the Cross, is for the sin of the entire world. "ALL who will believe", or as Jesus says...."If i be lifted up, i will draw ALL men, to me".....not just the predestined.

God has redeemed the entire world's sin, until forever.

But, that is NOT the same as everyone being automatically born again.

Salvation..........if i may use a secular analogy, is.....Like having a Billion dollars in the bank all your life.
But you have to go and get it, or its no better then having no bank account at all.

So, SALVATiON< is always available for all , for everyone, for the world....but to get it APPLIED you have to do this..

"all that call on the name of Jesus, shall be saved".
"for as many as BELIEVED, .. God gave them the power to BECOME< the Son of God".

Jesus said...>"you must be born again".

 

[Sidon]

Wow you think Hitler is going to be in heaven. Did Hitler abide in Christ, or is abiding in Christ just optional to you?

We dont abide in Christ to go to heaven.
We are born again as "One With God", by new birth....is the reason the born again are already in Heaven.

To "abide in Christ" is to be born again .
See, you have to be "IN Christ" to abide, as that is how you do it....that is how you become "IN Chist", and Christ in you.

 

[BNR32FAN]

We dont abide in Christ to go to heaven.
We are born again as "One With God", by new birth....is the reason the born again are already in Heaven.

To "abide in Christ" is to be born again .
See, you have to be "IN Christ" to abide, as that is how you do it....that is how you become "IN Chist", and Christ in you.

The word “abide” means to stay, remain, continue, or dwell. So your basically saying we don’t stay in Christ to go to heaven.

 

[Sidon]

Yeah I just wanted the actual number to be revealed. You have 40 threads and 25 likes which means you have an average of less than 1 like per thread.

Let me let you in on a little secret.
I'm not interested.

See that?
Just being honest.

I do appreciate a "like".

Im not here for likes.
Im here to teach.

My Thread are available for anyone who wants to stop the sinning and confessing and also to learn "Pauline Theology".
Thats the work.

 

[Sidon]

What commentary? I don’t use commentaries I just explained the verse in context.

Not so far.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Well, the verse was correct, but your interpretation isn't.

John 3:16, says that """for God so loved the world"", not just the predestined elect.

The Sacrifice of God on the Cross, is for the sin of the entire world. "ALL who will believe", or as Jesus says...."If i be lifted up, i will draw ALL men, to me".....not just the predestined.

God has redeemed the entire world's sin, until forever.

But, that is NOT the same as everyone being automatically born again.

Salvation..........if i may use a secular analogy, is.....Like having a Billion dollars in the bank all your life.
But you have to go and get it, or its no better then having no bank account at all.

So, SALVATiON< is always available for all , for everyone, for the world....but to get it APPLIED you have to do this..

"all that call on the name of Jesus, shall be saved".
"for as many as BELIEVED, .. God gave them the power to BECOME< the Son of God".

Jesus said...>"you must be born again".

Jesus also said “many will fall away but the one who endured to the end will be saved.”

He also said “anyone who does not remain in Me is cast away to wither and cast into the fire to be burned.”

So how could that be true if the blood of Christ keeps someone saved?