Salvation Cannot be Lost

[Phil W]

I said:
"I have nothing more to say. I've said plenty enough."
However, the Bible has PLENTY MORE to say about your unbiblical ideas.
If your ideas were valid and biblically based, please explain WHY these verses are directed to believers.

They are given to believers and unbelievers.
They are our means to grow in grace and knowledge.
Guidance, in our walk in the Spirit.
The Lord provides His church with pastors and teachers for our edification and also as a way to separate the chaff from the wheat. The holy from the unholy.
The devil's interjection of itself into the church is very subtle, and without the exhortations from men of God some things can be twisted from righteous to unrighteousness. Or vice-versa.
Take same sex marriage for example.
Or statue worship. Or Christians committing sin. Or immodesty as a normal way of behavior.
Without the wisdom and Holy Spirit driven words of the writers of the bible we could be swayed, tricked into adopting the devilish things as Godly.
Or perhaps tricked into giving up the Godly for the wickedness of, say for example, doctrines that eliminate obedience to God as not only necessary for salvation but normal behavior for those in Christ.
I hope this helps.

 

[Phil W]

It seems some have a very limited idea of what perfection and holiness really are.

Agreed.
Some have no idea at all, regretfully.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Are you now posting under two names?
That wasn't addressed to you.

These are public forums. Open to the public.

A condition that need not ever end.

But, because of the sinful nature, does end. Which is WHY the Bible gives us the solution to sin on a moment by moment basis.

Only those who have yet to be reborn of God's seed have a "human" nature.

Unless you can give a really rational and logical reason for all the verses that clearly indicate that believers still have a sinful nature and the struggle between their sinful nature and their new nature, your statement is quite unbiblical.

The reborn have killed the old man and all that was about him at their water baptism into Christ and into His death. (Rom 6:3-6)

I'm still waiting for your explanations for the verses I shared.

What you fail to understand is the word "new".

What you seem to fail to understand are any of the verses that I shared and you still haven't explained.

I've made my choice.

How can there be a choice in your pov? You have stated that the sin nature has been killed, eliminated. No longer functional in the believer. So, tell me, what is this "choice" that you speak of.

I hope you make the the same choice some day soon.

I was really hoping that you'd make the right choice and at least address the verses I shared with you, and provide an explanation of WHY and HOW they apply to those who no longer have a sinful nature.

But, not surprisingly, you again made the wrong choice.

But, no problem. Your lack of engaging the verses I shared reveal the inability to defend your own position.

If your position were biblical, you'd have no problem providing an easy explanation of how those verses are applicable to believers.

But, of course, they COULDN'T be applicable to anyone who no longer has a sinful nature. Yet, all of the verses I shared are TO believers.

Such verses refute your ideas quite soundly. And proven by your lack of engaging any of them.

 

[FreeGrace2]

They are given to believers and unbelievers.

OK, you STILL don't get it then. I gave you a number of verses TO believers. None of them were to unbelievers. And you STILL failed to provide any kind of explanation of how those verses are applicable to perfect, sinless people, which is your pov.

They are our means to grow in grace and knowledge.

Again, you seem to fail to understand. A person who doesn't have a sin nature doesn't need to grow. They are already perfect. So you STILL can't defend your pov from the verses I shared.

Guidance, in our walk in the Spirit.

Why would anyone who no longer has a sin nature need guidance? According to you, such people no longer sin, and so what kind of guidance are you referring to?

The Lord provides His church with pastors and teachers for our edification and also as a way to separate the chaff from the wheat.

Huh? We've been discussing real believers. So why change the goal posts and bring in chaff?? They are not the issue here. Only believers. Me thinks you keep hiding behind your smokescreens.

The holy from the unholy.

If your ideas were biblical, that has already been done. Needs no pastors.

The devil's interjection of itself into the church is very subtle, and without the exhortations from men of God some things can be twisted from righteous to unrighteousness. Or vice-versa.

Irrelevant.

Take same sex marriage for example.
Or statue worship. Or Christians committing sin. Or immodesty as a normal way of behavior.

In your ideas, these would not be possible for true believers. Yet, the Bible tells true believers to stop sinning, avoid immorality, etc. You know, the verses I previously shared and requested that you address and explain how they apply to believers.

Without the wisdom and Holy Spirit driven words of the writers of the bible we could be swayed, tricked into adopting the devilish things as Godly.

All this is totally IRRELEVANT if a true believer no longer has a sin nature. A perfect person secondary to the new birth and new creation cannot be "swayed, tricked, etc".

You just keep contradicting yourself.

Or perhaps tricked into giving up the Godly for the wickedness of, say for example, doctrines that eliminate obedience to God as not only necessary for salvation but normal behavior for those in Christ.
I hope this helps.

Well, it sure does help in revealing the total contradiction of your pov.

It seems you speak out of both sides of your mouth.

From one side of your mouth, you have said that new creatures (from the new birth) CANNOT sin.

Yet, from the other side of your mouth, you indicate that new creatures can be swayed, tricked, etc and sin.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Agreed.
Some have no idea at all, regretfully.

Gr8grace was referring to yourself.

 

[Gr8Grace]

Agreed.
Some have no idea at all, regretfully.

I was actually referring to you and your false ideas.

Christ was perfect and holy. His every thought was perfect and holy. His every action was perfect and Holy. His every move was perfect and holy and in accordance with the Fathers plan.

A person, IMO, who cannot see their own faults and failures and think that they are perfect and holy 100% of the time......Is right next to completely loony and divorced from reality and objective thinking.

Hence, FreeGraces many BIBLICAL responses are rejected. It's amazing to read and watch.

 

[Phil W]

These are public forums. Open to the public.
But, because of the sinful nature, does end. Which is WHY the Bible gives us the solution to sin on a moment by moment basis.
Unless you can give a really rational and logical reason for all the verses that clearly indicate that believers still have a sinful nature and the struggle between their sinful nature and their new nature, your statement is quite unbiblical.
I'm still waiting for your explanations for the verses I shared.
What you seem to fail to understand are any of the verses that I shared and you still haven't explained.
How can there be a choice in your pov? You have stated that the sin nature has been killed, eliminated. No longer functional in the believer. So, tell me, what is this "choice" that you speak of.
I was really hoping that you'd make the right choice and at least address the verses I shared with you, and provide an explanation of WHY and HOW they apply to those who no longer have a sinful nature.
But, not surprisingly, you again made the wrong choice
But, no problem. Your lack of engaging the verses I shared reveal the inability to defend your own position.
If your position were biblical, you'd have no problem providing an easy explanation of how those verses are applicable to believers.
But, of course, they COULDN'T be applicable to anyone who no longer has a sinful nature. Yet, all of the verses I shared are TO believers.
Such verses refute your ideas quite soundly. And proven by your lack of engaging any of them.

Jesus said "the truth shall make you free".
Free from what?
From committing sin. (John 8:32-34)
Your POV shows no freedom from committing sin.
It isn't the truth.

 

[Phil W]

I was actually referring to you and your false ideas.

Christ was perfect and holy. His every thought was perfect and holy. His every action was perfect and Holy. His every move was perfect and holy and in accordance with the Fathers plan.

A person, IMO, who cannot see their own faults and failures and think that they are perfect and holy 100% of the time......Is right next to completely loony and divorced from reality and objective thinking.

Hence, FreeGraces many BIBLICAL responses are rejected. It's amazing to read and watch.

Jesus said..."Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matt 5:48)
It wasn't just a suggestion.
He wouldn't tell us to do the impossible.
He provided us a way to kill the old man and be reborn of His Father's seed.
Seed that cannot bring forth the fruit of the devil.
I made the choice to obey Jesus, and haven't ever regretted it.

If you are happy in your flesh, with the affections and lusts...so be it.
Those who are though, are not Christ's. (Gal 5:24)

 

[FreeGrace2]

Jesus said "the truth shall make you free".
Free from what?

Freedom from the penalty (judgment) for sin.

From committing sin. (John 8:32-34)

Really? Let's read these 3 verses and see what they really do say.
32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
33 They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?”
34 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin.

Faith in Jesus Christ removes the penalty of sin. The believer is not bound by sin's penalty.

Your POV shows no freedom from committing sin.

Sure does. But it seems you haven't been reading my posts.

The new nature given through regeneration cannot sin. As long as the believer functions through the new nature, they WILL NOT SIN. 1 John 3:9

However, the believer must regularly confess their sins, in order to be cleansed/purified. 1 John 1:9

1 John 1:7-9
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

Note in v.7 that fellowship is based on being "purified from all sin".
Note in v.9 that purification is on the basis of confession of sin.

Now, note in v.8 that the word "claim" is a present indicative, the tense being "right now" or "currently" and the indicative indicates FACT.

Are you aware that v.8 directly applies to you and your claims of no longer sinning.

Here's the reality of v.8:
"If Phil W right now claims to be without sin, Phil W deceives himself and the truth is NOT in Phil W."

Bingo.

It isn't the truth.

As v.8 says, the truth is not in Phil W when Phil W claims to be without sin.

I was disappointed that you didn't address any of the verses I shared and explained how any of them apply to believers.

So I'll give you some more, and hopefully you'll figure out an explanation of how they apply to the believer in the light of your view that believers no longer have a sin nature.

2 Pet 1:3-9
3 His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.
4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.
5 For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge;
6 and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness;
7 and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love.
8 For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But whoever does not have them is nearsighted and blind, forgetting that they have been cleansed from their past sins.

v.3 proves that we have the means for living a godly life.
v.4 teaches that the believer MUST believe and apply the promises in order to "participate in the divine nature".
v.5-7 teaches that because of v.4 the believer MUST MAKE EVERY EFFORT to add to their faith 7 characteristics. iow, the godly life isn't guaranteed or automatic.
v.8 teaches that only by possessing these 7 qualities will they keep you from being INEFFECTIVE AND UNPRODUCTIVE in our knowledge of the Lord Jesus.
v.9 teaches the result of NOT having these 7 qualities added to our faith; nearsighted and blind, and forgetful.

So much for the theory that believers cannot sin.

2 Pet 2:18-20
18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error.
19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.”
20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.

v.18 teaches that false teachers can appeal to and entice "lustful desires of the flesh" of believers, indicated by "people who are just escaping from those who live in error." and from v.20 "if they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior".

Yet, these believers CAN become "entangled in it (corruption of the world) and are OVERCOME by it (corruption of the world).

More proof that your idea is unbiblical.

1 John 2:1 - My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.

A direct statement about believers sinning - "if anybody does sin". Which immediately follows "I write this SO THAT YOU WILL NOT SIN", proving that the "anybody" is a reference to believers.

The Bible SAYS that believer DO SIN.

1 John 2:11 -
But anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness. They do not know where they are going, because the darkness has blinded them.

This verse isn't describing unbelievers hating their families. John uses "brother/sister" to indicate a fellow believer. Clearly the beloved apostle believed that believes can and do sin.

1 John 3:12 - Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother’s were righteous.

Why would John tell believers to "not be like Cain", who was a murderer? Your theory falls apart in the light of Scripture.

1 John 5:16 - If you see any brother or sister commit a sin that does not lead to death, you should pray and God will give them life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that you should pray about that.

Again, "brother/sister" refers to fellow believers, and John is acknowledging that they may "commit a sin".

So, what I've shared with you here is more evidence from Scripture that believers can and do sin.

And please stop the false charge that this admission is a "defense of sin". Hardly. If you actually read the verses, it is clear that John's intent is that believer "do not sin".

 

[FreeGrace2]

Jesus said..."Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matt 5:48)
It wasn't just a suggestion.
He wouldn't tell us to do the impossible.
He provided us a way to kill the old man and be reborn of His Father's seed.
Seed that cannot bring forth the fruit of the devil.
I made the choice to obey Jesus, and haven't ever regretted it.

If you are happy in your flesh, with the affections and lusts...so be it.
Those who are though, are not Christ's. (Gal 5:24)

Apparently you have never considered or contemplated Eph 4:30 - And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

How could Paul, the greatest theologian in the history of mankind tell believers NOT to grieve the Holy Spirit, and why NOT to; because they have been sealed for the day of redemption?

Will you argue that a sinless believer (your claim) can grieve the Holy Spirit? lol

Next to your claim, this verse is ridiculous and is meaningless.

However, next to Scripture, your claim is ridiculous and meaningless.

 

[Gr8Grace]

Jesus said..."Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matt 5:48)
It wasn't just a suggestion.
He wouldn't tell us to do the impossible.
He provided us a way to kill the old man and be reborn of His Father's seed.
Seed that cannot bring forth the fruit of the devil.
I made the choice to obey Jesus, and haven't ever regretted it.

If you are happy in your flesh, with the affections and lusts...so be it.
Those who are though, are not Christ's. (Gal 5:24)

Here's the fun part. And why I said,"Some have a pretty low view of perfection and Holy."(And Matt 5:48 is about maturity and being COMPLETE in the faith.)

So, the fun part, Which will be brushed off, ignored or explained away with 1000 babbled words.

Phil W can pay for the sins of the World..........He is perfect and holy.

And I know I have said this before to you......But it's been a while. All sin is evil, but not all evil is sin......Your caught up in the evil. Our good deeds(which are evil) are as used menstrual rags to the Lord.

 

[Phil W]

Freedom from the penalty (judgment) for sin.

By adding words that are not there to scripture you have denied yourself the benefit of the death of Christ Jesus.
Of course if you don't want to live without sin it doesn't matter anyway.
The benefit?
Rebirth after the death of the old man.

 

[Phil W]

Apparently you have never considered or contemplated Eph 4:30 - And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

I have considered it and I adhere to the exhortation.

How could Paul, the greatest theologian in the history of mankind tell believers NOT to grieve the Holy Spirit, and why NOT to; because they have been sealed for the day of redemption?
Will you argue that a sinless believer (your claim) can grieve the Holy Spirit?

Not everyone hearing or reading Paul's exhortations was/is a convert.

Do the scriptures about a woman's modesty apply to me, a man?
Do the scriptures about having or being a servants apply to me?
How about the ones for soldiers?
I hope you can see that not every scripture is meant for every Christian.

 

[Phil W]

Here's the fun part. And why I said,"Some have a pretty low view of perfection and Holy."(And Matt 5:48 is about maturity and being COMPLETE in the faith.)

Again your additions to scripture deprive you of seeing Jesus' intent clearly.
He said be perfect.
I will, because I love Him above all things.

So, the fun part, Which will be brushed off, ignored or explained away with 1000 babbled words.
Phil W can pay for the sins of the World..........He is perfect and holy.

No, Jesus already did it.

And I know I have said this before to you......But it's been a while. All sin is evil, but not all evil is sin......Your caught up in the evil. Our good deeds(which are evil) are as used menstrual rags to the Lord.

If all sin is evil, why are you defending life with sin but still calling yourself a lover of God?
You are in effect calling the children of God "evil".
His seed cannot bear the fruit of the devil.

 

[FreeGrace2]

By adding words that are not there to scripture you have denied yourself the benefit of the death of Christ Jesus.

You are quite wrong. I added words of explanation.

You are worse than wrong about your comment about denying myself the benefit of the death of Christ. What nonsense. He died for my sins, removing the penalty of them. He paid my penalty. So I won't have to.

Of course if you don't want to live without sin it doesn't matter anyway.

More frivolous comments. This isn't about what I want. No, it's about what the Bible says.

The benefit?
Rebirth after the death of the old man.

Didn't you read the Scriptures? This death of the old man is an on-going command.

btw, another verse your theory cannot explain.

Rev 3:19 - Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent.

The context for this verse are the letters to the 7 churches in Revelation. The issue is behavior. This verse proves that believers sin. Why else would Jesus need to rebuke and discipline them?

I've already given you overwhelming evidence from Scripture that believers still have a sin nature, which is why they are commanded to not sin.

The command to not sin would be worse than irrelevant to a perfect person.

 

[FreeGrace2]

I said:
"Apparently you have never considered or contemplated Eph 4:30 - And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption."

I have considered it and I adhere to the exhortation.

Just keep missing the whole point. The command is to believers, who are sealed with the Holy Spirit, for the day of redemption. The FACT that this is a command proves once again that believers CAN but shouldn't grieve the Spirit.

Do you really not understand that grieving the Spirit is sin?

Not everyone hearing or reading Paul's exhortations was/is a convert.

One only has to read the opening verse(s) to know who Paul was addressing.

He NEVER addressed his epistles to unbelievers. You're just fishing for excuses rather than just accepting the FACT that believers aren't perfect, and do sin, which is why they are warned and commanded to not to.

Have you considered Heb 12 on discipline and Rev 3:19 about discipline?

Why would Jesus discipline perfect people?

See? You have no excuse.

Do the scriptures about a woman's modesty apply to me, a man?

Irrelevant. The woman is specifically mentioned. Unlike your false idea that some of Paul's words are to unbelievers.

Do the scriptures about having or being a servants apply to me?[/QUJOTE]
Same false idea.

How about the ones for soldiers?

I can do this all day. Same false idea.

I hope you can see that not every scripture is meant for every Christian.

That's obvious. As are your examples.

But what you CANNOT provide is ANY of the warnings in the epistles that are specifically and obviously directed to your supposed unbelievers.

 

[Phil W]

You are worse than wrong about your comment about denying myself the benefit of the death of Christ. What nonsense. He died for my sins, removing the penalty of them. He paid my penalty. So I won't have to.

And, according to your doctrine, left you in bondage to sin.
How can that be confused with the words Jesus said in John 8:32-34?
He said the truth would free you from committing sin, so your doctrine is not the truth.

 

[FreeGrace2]

And, according to your doctrine, left you in bondage to sin.

Every believer can choose to be in bondage to sin. The Bible says so. And the Bible makes clear that believers SHOULDN'T MAKE THAT CHOICE.

Rom 6:1 - 1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?

Paul's question PROVES that believers are capable of sin. Otherwise, his question is just stupid and nonsensical.

Rom 6:6 - For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin—

Rom 6:11 - In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
6:12 - Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
6:13 - Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness.
6:15 - What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! Again, Paul plainly states that believers CAN sin, but should NOT.

Here is the verse that refutes your theories about bondage to sin.

6:16 - Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?

It's a choice to "offer yourself to someone as obedient slaves".

Of course you understand the meaning of "slaves", right? Bondage. It's a choice.

And a very bad choice. But you treat it as a one time deal; once made, it's not ever a choice again.

You couldn't be more wrong. It's a moment by moment choice as whether to follow the "lusts of the flesh" or "walk by the Spirit". Gal 5:16

How can that be confused with the words Jesus said in John 8:32-34?

You'll have to ask yourself why you are so confused, given there are so many clear verses about the fact that believers still have the ability to sin because they still have their sinful nature.

He said the truth would free you from committing sin, so your doctrine is not the truth.

Interesting. You charge me with "adding words" to Scripture, yet here you go, doing that very thing. Where do the words "from committing sin" occur in your Bible in any of the 3 verses you cite?

The problem is that you don't seem to understand the penalty of sin that man is born under, and WHAT Jesus did on the cross, which was to pay that penalty.

Rom 1:27 - Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

Just what do you suppose this "penalty" is that Paul noted anyway?

2 Thess 2:12 - and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

What do you think Paul was referring to by the word "condemned"?

 

[Phil W]

Every believer can choose to be in bondage to sin. The Bible says so. And the Bible makes clear that believers SHOULDN'T MAKE THAT CHOICE.

Rom 6:1 - 1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?

Paul's question PROVES that believers are capable of sin. Otherwise, his question is just stupid and nonsensical.

Rom 6:6 - For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin—

Rom 6:11 - In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
6:12 - Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
6:13 - Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness.
6:15 - What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! Again, Paul plainly states that believers CAN sin, but should NOT.

Here is the verse that refutes your theories about bondage to sin.

6:16 - Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?

It's a choice to "offer yourself to someone as obedient slaves".

Of course you understand the meaning of "slaves", right? Bondage. It's a choice.

And a very bad choice. But you treat it as a one time deal; once made, it's not ever a choice again.

You couldn't be more wrong. It's a moment by moment choice as whether to follow the "lusts of the flesh" or "walk by the Spirit". Gal 5:16


You'll have to ask yourself why you are so confused, given there are so many clear verses about the fact that believers still have the ability to sin because they still have their sinful nature.


Interesting. You charge me with "adding words" to Scripture, yet here you go, doing that very thing. Where do the words "from committing sin" occur in your Bible in any of the 3 verses you cite?

The problem is that you don't seem to understand the penalty of sin that man is born under, and WHAT Jesus did on the cross, which was to pay that penalty.

Rom 1:27 - Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

Just what do you suppose this "penalty" is that Paul noted anyway?

2 Thess 2:12 - and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

What do you think Paul was referring to by the word "condemned"?

In short, you have chose not to follow the good Shepherd, and instead have delighted in wickedness.

 

[FreeGrace2]

In short, you have chose not to follow the good Shepherd, and instead have delighted in wickedness.

No, in short, you aren't comprehending anything I post.

Those who have read and understand what I post have seen clearly that the choice to be a servant of sin is the WRONG CHOICE.

I have been proving over and over just how unbiblical your theory is. Believers CAN and DO sin. But they SHOULDN'T do it.

How difficult is that to understand?

Your theory is revealed to be unbiblical by the fact that you cannot explain any of the verses I've shared, that prove that believers have the capacity to sin, which is why they are commanded to NOT SIN.