Sabbath Day - Orthodox

[Justin-H.S.]

But the emphasis in the Orthodox Church is always on keeping Sunday and not Saturday.

Keeping what on Sunday? No Orthodox Christian would tell you that they keep the sabbath on a Sunday.

I would ask you what's more important: The Lord's Creation or the Lord's rest?

 

[Union With Christ]

Keeping what on Sunday? No Orthodox Christian would tell you that they keep the sabbath on a Sunday.

Actually I have been told that exact thing by some Orthodox that Sunday is the sabbath. Here is a video of an Orthodox Priest calling Sunday the sabbath.

 

[Justin-H.S.]

Actually I have been told that exact thing by some Orthodox that Sunday is the sabbath. Here is a video of an Orthodox Priest calling Sunday the sabbath.

That's congruent to what Abbott Tryphon wrote (in the blog post you started with):

"Although early Christians inherited a sabbath practice from the Mosaic Law of remembering the sabbath day on Saturday, the position of both the Eastern and Western Churches came to observe the Lord’s Day as Sunday. Thus supplanting the Sabbath commandment of the Jews, they chose to celebrate the Christian community’s deliverance from captivity to sin, Satan, and worldly passions, made possible by the resurrection on the first day of the week. Early Christians observed the seventh day Sabbath with prayer and rest, but they also gathered on the first day. By the 4th century, the Church was officially observing the first day, Sunday, as their day of rest, not the seventh."

and later:

"The foremost sign of our undivided love for God and our fellow man is thus our participation in the Eucharist, and in our reception of the Holy Mysteries, which grants us the strength to do good. And, although Sunday is our day of worship, we Orthodox also keep the day of rest, which is on Saturday, the biblical Sabbath."

So, my apologies. I was wrong or right. It sounds like what Abbott Tryphon wrote tickles both our fancies.

 

[Union With Christ]

That's congruent to what Abbott Tryphon wrote (in the blog post you started with):

"Although early Christians inherited a sabbath practice from the Mosaic Law of remembering the sabbath day on Saturday, the position of both the Eastern and Western Churches came to observe the Lord’s Day as Sunday. Thus supplanting the Sabbath commandment of the Jews, they chose to celebrate the Christian community’s deliverance from captivity to sin, Satan, and worldly passions, made possible by the resurrection on the first day of the week. Early Christians observed the seventh day Sabbath with prayer and rest, but they also gathered on the first day. By the 4th century, the Church was officially observing the first day, Sunday, as their day of rest, not the seventh."

So, my apologies. I was wrong. I guess Sunday is the Sabbath for us. If that's a problem for you, I invite you to re-watch the video you posted and ask yourself if you are not making the Judaic sabbath day your god.

No the sabbath is not my God and I view your comment as an insult. The sabbath is just one single doctrine. I think I have made it fairly clear that I am a Christian. My faith is in Christ and Jesus Christ is my God.

 

[Justin-H.S.]

No the sabbath is not my God and I view your comment as an insult. The sabbath is just one single doctrine. I think I have made it fairly clear that I am a Christian. My faith is in Christ and Jesus Christ is my God.

I know. I edited my comment with an apology. Please forgive me, a sinner.

I think we told you in as many words as possible exactly what the sabbath is for us as it is when Christ rested in the tomb on the 7th day (while doing other important things like destroying death itself). I don't know what else to tell ya.

You don't like it, okay. Shake the dust from your feet and move on.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I do not believe that the sabbath has been transferred to Sunday. While I am not opposed to worshiping on Sunday in honor of the resurrection I in no way see it as a replacement for the sabbath day of rest.

No one said it was!

 

[Union With Christ]

I know. I edited my comment with an apology. Please forgive me, a sinner.

So, the sabbath for us is when Christ rested in the tomb on the 7th day (while doing other important things like destroying death itself). It's in the Bible. I don't know what else to tell ya.

Alright but it’s not the same as being a sabbath keeper. My purpose in starting this thread was to find out if I would fit in the Orthodox Church as a sabbath keeper. At this point I would say that it’s probably not a good fit.

 

[Union With Christ]

No one said it was!

Actually yes it has been said many times.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Actually yes it has been said many times.

NO one said the Sabbath is on Sunday...

 

[Justin-H.S.]

Alright but it’s not the same as being a sabbath keeper. My purpose in starting this thread was to find out if I would fit in the Orthodox Church as a sabbath keeper. At this point I would say that it’s probably not a good fit.

You're the one who keeps telling yourself that. It then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

We keep telling you that each of us keep the sabbath in our own way. There's no law in the Church that says we absolutely have to keep the sabbath exactly the same as everyone else.

I know for a fact that I told you that I could care less how you keep the sabbath.

 

[Union With Christ]

You're the one who keeps telling yourself that. It then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

We keep telling you that each of us keep the sabbath in our own way. There's no law in the Church that says we absolutely have to keep the sabbath exactly the same as everyone else.

So you are saying that it would be alright for me to continue to keep the sabbath and become an Orthodox Church member?

We will see if the Priest answers and what he says.

 

[Union With Christ]

NO one said the Sabbath is on Sunday...

Yes, actually it’s been said multiple times and I just posted the video of the Orthodox Priest who makes that claim.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Actually I have been told that exact thing by some Orthodox that Sunday is the sabbath. Here is a video of an Orthodox Priest calling Sunday the sabbath.

Where did he say that, I must have missed it. He said to keep the Sabbath.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

So you are saying that it would be alright for me to continue to keep the sabbath and become an Orthodox Church member?

We will see if the Priest answers and what he says.

I do.

 

[Justin-H.S.]

Where did he say that, I must have missed it. He said to keep the Sabbath.

He doesn't actually say "Sunday is the Sabbath." He just said "Keep the Sabbath."

 

[ArmyMatt]

So you are saying that it would be alright for me to continue to keep the sabbath and become an Orthodox Church member?

We will see if the Priest answers and what he says.

speaking as a priest, I could care less about how spend your Saturday, unless it would conflict with the faith.

 

[Justin-H.S.]

So you are saying that it would be alright for me to continue to keep the sabbath and become an Orthodox Church member?

We will see if the Priest answers and what he says.

I'm not a priest, but I don't care how you keep the sabbath.

 

[Union With Christ]

Where did he say that, I must have missed it. He said to keep the Sabbath.

Did you watch the whole video? He talks about the importance of keeping Sunday so the cross reference is definitely made.

 

[Union With Christ]

He doesn't actually say "Sunday is the Sabbath." He just said "Keep the Sabbath."

Did you watch the entire video? He talks about the importance of observing Sunday and the cross reference is definitely made that Sunday is the sabbath he is speaking of.

 

[Union With Christ]

speaking as a priest, I could care less about how spend your Saturday, unless it would conflict with the faith.

So maybe it wouldn’t be an issue. If the Priest would answer my email I could ask him.