Repeated Abiogenesis?

[Split Rock]

I don't need to listen to your No True Scotsman garbage.*

It's an insult to my intelligence.

* aka Internet science

I think we can say the same about "Internet creationism."

 

[AV1611VET]

What RickG was saying, is that we should find out of order fossils all the time; that could not be an anomaly.

So that's the escape hatch? got it.

IOW, you guys make up the rules.

Forget that God cleaned up the mess, forget that God cleaned up the mess 'decently and in order' -- as long as you have your computers to bow to, you're okay.

Right?

Reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode, The Old Man in the Cave -- (I think it was called).

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

I lost a lot of respect for you guys when I posted something from NASA, only to have one of you brilliant Internet scientists (I can't remember who it was, or what it was about), come back and say it was a NASA article written by some kid or something.

Your UC Berkley and other aceldama sites can take a hike.

So which do you hate, "internet science" or "science"?

That cave free of technology is always waiting, AV.

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

Forget that God cleaned up the mess, forget that God cleaned up the mess 'decently and in order' -- as long as you have your computers to bow to, you're okay.

'Decently and in order' = an order that perfectly matches common ancestry? God really didn't want the inquisitive people to be his followers, did he?

 

[AV1611VET]

'Decently and in order' = an order that perfectly matches common ancestry?

I'm sure that, in whatever order He put them in, you guys would make them match something.

But for the record, I do believe that you guys find anomalies all the time; but just sweep them under the carpet -- with the help of your digital prophets, of course.

 

[Split Rock]

So that's the escape hatch? got it.

IOW, you guys make up the rules.

No escape hatch. We have rules and those rules are ruthlessly followed. You continue to labor under the fantasy that scientists are all in a cabal that promotes "evolutionism." There is no cabal. If I were to try and publish a paper and I ignore serious anomalies just to push my hypothesis, I will be ripped to shreds by my colleagues. They won't say, "oh its OK since it pulls the 'evolutionism' party line." That's the fantasy you guys like to believe. The reality is different. The reality is I have to withstand criticism that would make you guys cry. That's the way science works. That's why science works, and creationism does not.

Forget that God cleaned up the mess, forget that God cleaned up the mess 'decently and in order' -- as long as you have your computers to bow to, you're okay.

Right?

Why would I forget something you made up? Or is God "cleaning up" also a part of "Basic Theology?"

Reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode, The Old Man in the Cave -- (I think it was called).

And The Old Man in the Cave was right... wasn't he? Everyone who ate the food he said was contaminated died. Bad example, AVET...

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

I'm sure that, in whatever order He put them in, you guys would make them match something.

And yet it matches the genetic code of all things.

 

[CabVet]

But for the record, I do believe that you guys find anomalies all the time; but just sweep them under the carpet -- with the help of your digital prophets, of course.

Evidence please.

 

[Greg1234]

In answer to your question, would you expect to see a frog in the Cambrian explosion?

A frog dates its stratum well after the Cambrian.

 

[Orogeny]

A frog dates its stratum well after the Cambrian.

Holy PRATT, batman!

 

[Split Rock]

I'm sure that, in whatever order He put them in, you guys would make them match something.

But for the record, I do believe that you guys find anomalies all the time; but just sweep them under the carpet -- with the help of your digital prophets, of course.

Evidence please.

AVET needs no evidence for this. He will believe whatever story he comes up with that fits his own little paradigms. This one is the "all scientists are in a corrupt cabal that lies to Christians about the scientific evidence" paradigm.

 

[CabVet]

AVET needs no evidence for this. He will believe whatever story he comes up with that fits his own little paradigms. This one is the "all scientists are in a corrupt cabal that lies to Christians about the scientific evidence" paradigm.

I wouldn't have a problem with that if he included "creation scientists" in the bunch too. The lack of consistency is what bothers me, science that supports the Bible (even if false) is readily accepted. So, if all scientists are corrupt and science is useless, please don't use it to support creation.

 

[AV1611VET]

And The Old Man in the Cave was right... wasn't he? Everyone who ate the food he said was contaminated died. Bad example, AVET...

The Old Man in the Cave says the Bible is contaminated.

This time [he's] wrong.

 

[AV1611VET]

Evidence please.

Macroevolution.

 

[AV1611VET]

This one is the "all scientists are in a corrupt cabal that lies to Christians about the scientific evidence" paradigm.

I don't think scientists think they are lying; I think scientists are deceived.

I can visualize an evolutionist standing before God saying, "But ... but ... the fossil record looks like an upside-down pyramid."

Whereupon God says, "Yes, but I left you enough evidence in it that you could have taken Genesis 1 literally; instead, you explained it away."

 

[AV1611VET]

So, if all scientists are corrupt and science is useless, please don't use it to support creation.

So science is useless without macroevolution? is that what you want me to believe?

Unless we came from atom-to-adam evolution, my computer shouldn't work?

 

[Orogeny]

I can visualize a battle-ax wielding funfetti cupcake hacking his way through an onslaught of peppermint patty ninjas to save his beautiful bride-to-be, a cream-filled maple long john. But that doesn't make it even remotely reasonable or realistic.

 

[AV1611VET]

I can visualize a battle-ax wielding funfetti cupcake hacking his way through an onslaught of peppermint patty ninjas to save his beautiful bride-to-be, a cream-filled maple long john. But that doesn't make it even remotely reasonable or realistic.

Good for you, now all you have to do is get higher aceldama to teach it, and start handing out Nobel prizes as 'attaboys', and make a totem pole of the countries of the earth who aren't as smart as you, and start calling your past generations 'ignorant Betty Crockers', and you might -- just might -- have a case.

 

[Orogeny]

Good for you, now all you have to do is get higher aceldama to teach it, and start handing out Nobel prizes as 'attaboys', and make a totem pole of the countries of the earth who aren't as smart as you, and start calling your past generations 'ignorant Betty Crockers', and you might -- just might -- have a case.

But wouldn't it be much easier for me to just post about it on CF as though it were fact and as though it was what god said, and so that stuffs anybody who disagrees with me and neener neener planet cleaner ZING /thread thalidInihilpluto 123456789101112131415 bible.jpg 10^40,000 challenge CHALLENGE HIKING CHALLENGE!

Wouldn't it?

 

[AV1611VET]

Wouldn't it?

It sure would.

Anyone can post anything they want.

The trick is living what you believe.