Muriatic Conspiracy?

[timewerx]

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1556-4029.2011.01752.x

Muriatic acid (31.45%) dissolved soft tissue totally in 6h. They didn't give the exact weight of the soft tissue, my personal guess from the other data given is between 2-5 grams dissolved in ~28 grams(?, I uncertain about my 1 fl. oz to grams conversions). Thank you, for putting me on a watchlist

2 to 5 grams in 6 hours?

I think the question becomes who lets acid sit on their skin for more than 1 hr?

 

[timewerx]

Because if it hasn't happened to you yet, doesn't mean it hasn't happened to other people and it doesn't mean it won't happen to you.

There seems to be a lack of testimonies by other people on the internet.

It makes me think it hasn't happened to anyone either.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

2 to 5 grams in 6 hours?

I think the question becomes who lets acid sit on their skin for more than 1 hr?

That is actually quite a lot of tissue ~2-5 ml, you will get injuries long before that (if I removed 2 cubic centimetres of your eye you would most likely go blind). But the answer to your initial question is that you got it off in time before any lasting damage occurred. It dissolves tissue much faster than bleach. They are just erring on the side of caution, it will get you hurt if you tardy too much. Always wear eye protection, check where the closest eye shower is (or prepare 5-10 shot glasses nearby). Have a plan for what you are going to do if a spill occurs on yourself or in the environment.

The answer to your latest question:
Those who get splashed upon and gets distracted. If you know a car mechanic ask them if they have a t-shirt with holes on the front of it (they are from the sulphuric acid in the battery oftentimes). The same thing happens with people who get splashed with HCL if they are distracted, of course they get reminded when it starts to hurt.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

There seems to be a lack of testimonies by other people on the internet.

It makes me think it hasn't happened to anyone either.

Do a google search for (VERY GRAPHIC) acid burns.

Read this (VERY GRAPHIC) PDF for showing chemical and acid burns.

Look up 'acid burn testimonials' on Google.

You have clearly not done any actual research yourself and I am really getting worried that you are going to hurt yourself by doing something stupid by following this incredibly dumb line of logic.

 

[timewerx]

You have clearly not done any actual research yourself and I am really getting worried that you are going to hurt yourself by doing something stupid by following this incredibly dumb line of logic.

You did not either because you did not add "muriatic" to your search keywords. Add 'muriatic' and you'll see a huge change in search results. In fact, nothing substantial will come up relevant to the subject.

Why do you keep saying "hurting myself". Have you read my OP?

What you "worry" about happened already. I accidentally spilled couple drops of muriatic acid (straight from the bottle, 29% concentrated) on my hands and feet and it took more than 10 seconds before I washed it off briefly (not 15 minutes in flowing water) and nothing happened. The acid had zero effect on my skin. In fact, it felt cold on my skin signifying zero reaction to my skin.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You did not either because you did not add "muriatic" to your search keywords. Add 'muriatic' and you'll see a huge change in search results. In fact, nothing substantial will come up relevant to the subject.

Why do you keep saying "hurting myself". Have you read my OP?

What you "worry" about happened already. I accidentally spilled couple drops of muriatic acid (straight from the bottle, 29% concentrated) on my hands and feet and it took more than 10 seconds before I washed it off briefly (not 15 minutes in flowing water) and nothing happened. The acid had zero effect on my skin. In fact, it felt cold on my skin signifying zero reaction to my skin.

And yet your attitude is so massively flippant to the whole thing that you label it a conspiracy because you did the correct thing to stop any serious damage to your skin. That's why I am expressing my concern.

Muriatic acid is diluted hydochloric acid and it's still dangerous.

This guy is legally blind in his right eye because of getting muriatic acid in his eye at age 11. If it's not a testimonial, I don't know what is.

Your entire commentary and thought process is so horribly flippant that I have no reason but to be worried for you seriously harming yourself in the future.

 

[timewerx]

That is actually quite a lot of tissue ~2-5 ml

You wrote 2-5 grams, not ml. Look back your post.

It dissolves tissue much faster than bleach.

Bleach have discernible effect on my skin even if I wash it off immediately. Even just a drop of bleach from the bottle usually cause my affected skin to get hard and crack after it has dried. It causes similar symptoms as having dry skin but worse. Otherwise, it causes no permanent damage, no scarring to my skin. This maybe outdated info because my accidental encounter with 50% sodium hydroxide recently (basic solution) have milder effect than bleach.

But muriatic acid has zero effect.

What you're saying, the opposite is happening to me.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You wrote 2-5 grams, not ml. Look back your post.




Bleach have discernible effect on my skin even if I wash it off immediately. Even just a drop of bleach from the bottle usually cause my affected skin to get hard and crack after it has dried. It causes similar symptoms as having dry skin but worse. Otherwise, it causes no permanent damage, no scarring to my skin. This maybe outdated info because my accidental encounter with 50% sodium hydroxide recently (basic solution) have milder effect than bleach.

But muriatic acid has zero effect.

What you're saying, the opposite is happening to me.

You might have a weird skin condition, ever thought of that?

 

[timewerx]

And yet your attitude is so massively flippant to the whole thing that you label it a conspiracy because you did the correct thing to stop any serious damage to your skin. That's why I am expressing my concern.

According to the literature, I did the wrong thing. THey say to immediately wash it off in cold running water for at least 10 minutes and every second of delay counts!

I only rubbed my hands together in running water for less than 30 seconds after letting it sit on my skin for more than 10 seconds.


But you wrote I did the "correct" thing. Are you reading things right?

If an Acid is Splashed on Skin, Wash at Once With

Imagine the sting when if an acid is splashed on your skin, wash at once with water to stop the burn from worsening. This guide covers quick rinsing steps, avoiding myths like using soap first, and spotting everyday acid risks in cleaners or batteries for safer handling.

healtheh.com

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

According to the literature, I did the wrong thing. THey say to immediately wash it off in cold running water for at least 10 minutes and every second of delay counts!

I only rubbed my hands together in running water for less than 30 seconds after letting it sit on my skin for more than 10 seconds.


But you wrote I did the "correct" thing. Are you reading things right?

If an Acid is Splashed on Skin, Wash at Once With

Imagine the sting when if an acid is splashed on your skin, wash at once with water to stop the burn from worsening. This guide covers quick rinsing steps, avoiding myths like using soap first, and spotting everyday acid risks in cleaners or batteries for safer handling.

healtheh.com

Again: your attitude is so horribly flippant, that you are bound to hurt yourself seriously because you think that you won't get hurt.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

You wrote 2-5 grams, not ml. Look back your post.

It's approximately the same thing. The density of the human body is 0.95 to 1 g/ml depending fat percentage. Soft tissue actually have even lower density so it would mean an even higher volume.

Bleach have discernible effect on my skin even if I wash it off immediately. Even just a drop of bleach from the bottle usually cause my affected skin to get hard and crack after it has dried. It causes similar symptoms as having dry skin but worse. Otherwise, it causes no permanent damage, no scarring to my skin. This maybe outdated info because my accidental encounter with 50% sodium hydroxide recently (basic solution) have milder effect than bleach.

But muriatic acid has zero effect.

What you're saying, the opposite is happening to me.

At this point, you seem to argue for the sake of arguing. You can only get muriatic acid to a certain concentration before most of is in gas form (that is highly corrosive to inhale). The latest article was about acid såplashes in general (you can get 98% concentrated sulphuric acid), concentration matters.

Be glad that you didn't get hurt, and take precautions in the future. It is not a conspiracy, it is being cautious.

 

[timewerx]

Again: your attitude is so horribly flippant, that you are bound to hurt yourself seriously because you think that you won't get hurt.

I do believe the warnings about the fumes and the eyes.

I've experienced for myself the effect of the fumes on breathing is real and I'm never going to bet my eyes on anything.

The effect on skin as I've experienced is null.

The link you shared earlier about acid attacks are mostly using different and stronger acid like sulfuric and nitric acid.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I do believe the warnings about the fumes and the eyes.

I've experienced for myself the effect of the fumes on breathing is real and I'm never going to bet my eyes on anything.

The effect on skin as I've experienced is null.

The link you shared earlier about acid attacks are mostly using different and stronger acid like sulfuric and nitric acid.

Again: that attitude is just flippant and arrogant. Just because you've not experienced trouble does not mean that others have not, and it's provable that they do, since my links show that hydrochloric acid is a dangerous substance, and the fact that it's a gastric acid too, you know, the acid that helps break down our food, shows that it's powerful stuff.

Your entire attitude is just "Well, it's not happened to me, so it's not happened to anyone. CONSPIRACY!", and it's nothing but flippant and stupid.

 

[timewerx]

It's approximately the same thing. The density of the human body is 0.95 to 1 g/ml depending fat percentage. Soft tissue actually have even lower density so it would mean an even higher volume.

At this point, you seem to argue for the sake of arguing. You can only get muriatic acid to a certain concentration before most of is in gas form (that is highly corrosive to inhale). The latest article was about acid såplashes in general (you can get 98% concentrated sulphuric acid), concentration matters.

Be glad that you didn't get hurt, and take precautions in the future. It is not a conspiracy, it is being cautious.

There is plenty of evidence online of the danger of sulfuric acid.

But for muriatic acid, the amount of data available does not agree with the warnings.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

There is plenty of evidence online of the danger of sulfuric acid.

But for muriatic acid, the amount of data available does not agree with the warnings.

Do you think it might be that, because muriatic acid is a diluted form of hydrochloric acid and thus still as potentially dangerous as the non-diluted form, it doesn't need it's own subset of labelling and data versus its non-diluted form?

Again: do you not think that you are horrendously overthinking this?

 

[chevyontheriver]

Did you take a high school chemistry class?

That's the real question.

 

[The Barbarian]

 

[timewerx]

Do you think it might be that, because muriatic acid is a diluted form of hydrochloric acid and thus still as potentially dangerous as the non-diluted form, it doesn't need it's own subset of labelling and data versus its non-diluted form?

Again: do you not think that you are horrendously overthinking this?

I uploaded a video demo here in the file attachment. I showed acid reaction to steel, aluminum, concrete, stainless steel, PP plastic (green), and my skin. In this video I let the acid sit on my skin for over 2 minutes.

Note: I had to scratch off the coating at the middle of the metal cans because the coatings are acid resistant. You can see in the video some acid got to the sides had no reaction due to the coating.

I touched the articles first before applying acid to show they're not preheated nor I put any reactive ingredient like sodium bicarbonate. They're genuine acid reaction with various materials.

Please don't try this at home nor anywhere!

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Interesting. Still not evidence of a conspiracy but sure fire evidence of you overthinking things horribly.

 

[timewerx]

Interesting. Still not evidence of a conspiracy but sure fire evidence of you overthinking things horribly.

I suspect a pattern could be derived based on people's sensitivity to the chemical. A pattern that might be controversial in nature. For example, that some of us might have artificial origins or a product of genetic engineering. I'm not saying that's the case, just one of the many possibilities.

The conspiracy is that some don't want us finding one of these many possibilities.

I may be overthinking but I also need to think this way to satisfy certain unique goals in life. People have secrets. People you meet won't overthink in your face.