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[Virgil the Roman]

Heretic. Everyone knows it's cats > dogs.

I concur with Mr Ryan.

 

[camethodactor]

I'm a liberal Christian, a liberal in the Green Party, pro-choice and a strong advocate of LGBT rights including the right of marriage.

 

[WisdomTree]

I concur with Mr Ryan.

So the inquisition will be upon us?

 

[Angelus00]

Republican/Conservative/Catholic/Prolife/Supports traditional marriage

 

[Antigone]

So the inquisition will be upon us?

NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION.

 

[Virgil the Roman]

So the inquisition will be upon us?

Indubitably.

 

[WisdomTree]

Indubitably.

BURN THE HERETICS!!!

 

[Imperiuz]

Conservative/Catholic/Prolife/Supports traditional marriage

on top of that, I'm also Cultural nationalist/Fiscal moderate/Monarchist/Pro-animal welfare/Cat lover

 

[Genersis]

Heck, I might as well:

I'm either a Liberal Socialist, or a Social Liberal.(Or, both?)
I'm not politically savy enough to know which.

 

[Imperiuz]

Heck, I might as well:

I'm either a Liberal Socialist, or a Social Liberal.(Or, both?)
I'm not politically savy enough to know which.

As a product of the union of a man and a woman who met in a communist youth group, I feel that I have some authority to answer this. The difference lies in if you believe in collective ownership of the means of production (which isn't necessarily the same as a fully planned economy). If you do, you are a socialist, if you don't, you are probably more of a social liberal. At least, that's what I was taught.

 

[Kurama]

any test I have taken have put me very much in the center of most issues.
I am big on freedom, so do not like big government that want to take that freedom away.

I do not see liberals as the enemy. I am very much for liberalism being the wave of the future in fact. Competing ideals against liberalism would be Islamism and secular leftism. As a Catholic I do see the left as an enemy to all Catholic teachings on morals an ethics. I do not see liberalism as that kind of enemy. On the contrary I see it as the fruition of Judeo-Christian belief.

My criticisms then are mainly leveled at leftist ideologues, and the Islamists that they so often cooperate with under the guise of multiculturalism. I am no friend either with the 'religious isolationists' of the right, whose perfect vision of heaven on earth makes the perfect the enemy of the good.

I am more fiscal conservative on spending issues, more motivated by fear of giving government larger control over our lives than anything else. I believe in general in subsidiarity i nthis regard, but recognize that there is a continuum on these ideas on how much public institutions are needed in our lives.

My participation in those controversies are therefore minimal, because Catholics do not, and probably should not, see eye to eye on what level of spending is best to serve the needs of the community.

On many things that the left support though, Catholic doctrine is clear, and the preponderance of the left makes no bones about being opposed to the pope and Catholic teaching. I see no middle ground here, and do not act as if there were just for the sake of partisanship.
I have little time for those who so advocate actually.

I share very similar principles as you. Although I recognise myself as a conservative Catholic, I am an advocate of civil liberties (within ethics of course) and the Non Aggression Principle (of which I see as quite a Christian principle regarding human life). Liberalism (in its classical sense of the European Enlightenment, not the leftist sense we have in America) is a theology which advocates that the government should be less powerful over its people.

Taking note that more government intervention in the economy would mean more funds for the bureaucrats and thus more power, I would also identify myself as a fiscal conservative (however I am passionate about helping the poor, which is the current platform of Pope Francis, and believe that the genuinely disadvantaged who cannot work should have a safety net).

This is, in essence, quite compatible with Christianity. We are not told to adhere to put our faith into a flag, statesman or culture; we must accept Christ as our Lord and Saviour, and only source of salvation. Being too nationalistic, up to the point of deism of your leaders (i.e. North Korea) would be an infringement of the First Commandment.

One thing I find very ironic about Liberals and ''social progressives'' (in general, not all of them are the same) is that they are very pro-Islam, while being anti-Israeli and sometimes anti-Christian. The truth of the matter is that Israel was founded as a secular socialist state and gave rights to homosexuals, while the Arabs and Muslims hanged or stoned any homosexual they found! So much about being ''social progressive'' and ''liberal'' (I myself am quite upset that the liberals have distorted the traditional sense of the word, up to the point of which it equates very much to socialism). Thus we have libertarianism...

As Ronald Reagen quoted:

If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

I apologise if I am sounding quite harsh and intolerant (however I have found that on this forum I am at least not flamed for being ''politically incorrect). I personally try to stay apolitical and strive for righteousness. However, as we all know, man is sinful. Government is run by man, and thus has all the sins and drawbacks man has. However government is not a living being, nor is it a hive mind (that is very much apparent in the Republican-Democrat standoff in Congress), it is simply the tool of man to impose his will on the people (though he could vary from being tolerant and democratic, to utterly despotic). Indeed elect your leaders, discuss politics...but understand that we are all the children of God and will live in His Kingdom...

 

[Kurama]

Oh wow...looking back at my past (the post above this one to be exact), I was so militant.

I'm far more moderate and centrist now...

 

[stevenfrancis]

I won't play stupid. I do know what you are saying in the poll by having liberal and conservative Catholic. I AM Catholic, but didn't check either of those boxes. While I know it exists, I don't want to feed into the perpetuation of the divisive labels of conservative and liberal Catholic. We are supposed to be One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. We are the universal Church of Jesus Christ our Lord. To be a liberal or conservative Catholic would imply a conservative or liberal Jesus. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. He is God. The 2nd person of the Holy Trinity. Being truth, He simply IS. The same applies to the universal Church, which is to present Jesus whole. Some of the doctrines....which are what they are, and are to be obediently lived out in faith by all Catholics...have been co-opted by the modernist political world to be right or left ISSUES, rather than singular truthful DOCTRINES which are motivated and inspired by Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit. Not the American or Western European Democratic or Republican Parties.

So, I am a Catholic. Latin Right (Roman Catholic). I have faith in the doctrines of the Church, and follow them, (if I actually know them.....I still have a lot to learn), whether they are convenient or inconvenient. Whether I agree or disagree with them at a modern political level. I don't believe it is possible for the Church to declare as dogma, or make firm doctrine which would violate either the teachings of Jesus and/or His chosen Apostles, who maintain the ability to bind and loose by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Politically, in 21st century USA, on matters which are not really the purview of the Church, I would label myself, (and did, above), as a moderate, I suppose. Though the culture may deem me a conservative due to my stance on morality issues, (which ARE in the purview of the Church).

Thanks for the opportunity to explain my feelings on this.

 

[Virgil the Roman]

I love fire-eaters. Makes for lively comp'ny.

Kurama, don't worry: Trust me, you're tame. I've seen, heard, read, and listened to far less 'tame' words! No worries!

 

[Franny50]

Democratic, Pro-Life and somewhat liberal.I recently filled out a political survey online and was told I was 35%conservative.I support sex education and birth control(no abortifacients)social welfare programs,some aspects of Obama Care,and am fiscally liberal but tough on violent crime.I am somewhat of a liberal Catholic as I support the idea of women Priests.I also support gay rights and civil marriage.

 

[Virgil the Roman]

 

[Arturo Ortiz]

I am a traditional Catholic who supports the Social Reign of Christ the king. That being said I am a Paleo-Conservative (Old Conservative) With Libertarian leanings.

I have seen the evil of an ever increasing anti-Catholic government and thus do no feel compelled at all to support fiscal unresponsibility. I follow Ron Paul's libertarian isolationism when it comes to foreign affairs, and social conservative domestic affairs.

I also follow Tom Woods who is a follower of Ron Paul as well. Tom Woods has written quite extensively on the Church including How the Church built Western Civlization, The Church confronts Modernity, Sacred Then and Sacred Now: The Return of the Old Latin Mass, and many more.

Wikipedia does a good job explaining Paleoconservativism

Paleoconservatism (sometimes shortened to paleocon) is a term for a conservative political philosophy found primarily in the United States stressing tradition, limited government, civil society, anti-colonialism, anti-corporatism and anti-federalism, along with religious, regional, national and Western identity.[1] Chilton Williamson, Jr. describes paleoconservatism as "the expression of rootedness: a sense of place and of history, a sense of self derived from forebears, kin, and culture — an identity that is both collective and personal".[2] Paleoconservatism is not expressed as an ideology and its adherents do not necessarily subscribe to any one party line[3] although critics have disputed this.[4]
Paleoconservatives in the 21st century often highlight their points of disagreement with neoconservatives, especially regarding issues such as military interventionism, illegal immigration and large amounts of legal immigration, multiculturalism, affirmative action, and foreign aid, to which they are opposed.[1] They also criticize social welfare and social democracy, which some refer to as the "therapeutic managerial state",[5] the "welfare-warfare state"[6] or "polite totalitarianism".[7] They see themselves as the legitimate heirs to the American conservative tradition.[8]

Neverles in the end my belief is that original sin has caused a disordered universe. We thus cannot have a utopian (perfect) form of government as we ourselves are not in a perfect, but fallen state. What will bring order to the disorder is the Social Reign of Christ the King. Christ is the Answer and the Catholic Church is the means.

Viva Cristo Rey!

 

[AMDG]

I follow Ron Paul's libertarian isolationism

Snipped to portion addressed. Longer post above.

You mean Ron Paul's non-interventionalism--not merely isolationism. How we say things tends to color how others feel about those things.

I tend to like that non-interventionalism too.

 

[classicalhero]

I am an Australian, so Neither party really apeals to me, but if I had to pick one, I would pick Republican, because they are strongly pro life and for traditional marriage (gay marriage is a misnomer, since homosexuality can never be considered a true marriage). As you can see that I am a Baptist, but I come here to talk about politics. I would say that I am definitely a social conservative and an economic liberal.

 

[pdudgeon]

Republican, conservative, pro life, traditional marriage, conservative Catholic (in RCIA).