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[Gnarwhal]

I really relate to what @concretecamper said above, I'm not sure I truly align with anybody anymore. Economically I'm libertarian, morally I'm authoritarian because I believe error has no rights, and I prefer an isolationist foreign policy. Domestically I think groups like Black Lives Matter and Antifa must be categorized as terrorist organizations (the former of which the FBI agrees with me, as described in a 2017 intelligence assessment they published) and then dealt with exactly like we've dealt with al-Qaeda.

I subscribe to the Aristo-Thomistic notion that a Republic is one of three valid forms of regime (along with Aristocracy and Monarchy), and that a Republic's evil twin is democracy. Though I submit that a Republic is the one with the highest ratio of virtuous incarnations; a Monarchy can be great if the king is virtuous but that's rarely the case so it quickly devolves to tyranny. Same with aristocracy, which devolves to oligarchy.

I'm staunchly anti-abortion which I distinguish from being pro-life. I think the death penalty is just, necessary, and underutilized. Murderers? Rapists? Pedos? Abortionists? Death. All of them. The Roman Catechism says the death penalty is acceptable to protect society, and I defer to that catechism, knowing how Clement XIII described it: "In it they compiled the teaching which is common to the whole Church and which is far removed from every danger of error," (Pope Clement XII, in Dominico Agro, VI).

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

I am a moderate in politics, I am not from the USA, and I am a fairly conservative Catholic.

 

[RileyG]

Moderate, conservative, registered Republican who is 100% pro-life.

 

[RileyG]

I'm a registered Libertarian and consider myself a moderate. My voting record is all over the place. Back when you could actually have political conversations with people IRL without being cancelled, my liberal friends would agree with me until I was deemed too conservative, and my conservative friends would agree with me until I was deemed too liberal. Then we'd have to agree to disagree. So, a true moderate.

I've always been personally quite conservative- even though I never extended my moral expectations to the society around me politically- at least not unreasonably so (according to me, anyway). I dislike the very idea of being associated as either a Democrat or a Republican. I haven't voted for either in a Presidential election since the first term for Bush Jr.

However, even though I haven't changed, society has changed around me. So, according to the woke brigade, I'm now suddenly some kind of right-wing extremist and a TERF and a Nazi. Reiterating biological facts and being against medically transing children, keeping trans women out of women's sports, and keeping trans women out of women's prisons and other spaces makes me the evil one. Apparently.

Lord have mercy!

 

[chevyontheriver]

I'm a registered Libertarian and consider myself a moderate. My voting record is all over the place. Back when you could actually have political conversations with people IRL without being cancelled, my liberal friends would agree with me until I was deemed too conservative, and my conservative friends would agree with me until I was deemed too liberal. Then we'd have to agree to disagree. So, a true moderate.

I've always been personally quite conservative- even though I never extended my moral expectations to the society around me politically- at least not unreasonably so (according to me, anyway). I dislike the very idea of being associated as either a Democrat or a Republican. I haven't voted for either in a Presidential election since the first term for Bush Jr.

However, even though I haven't changed, society has changed around me. So, according to the woke brigade, I'm now suddenly some kind of right-wing extremist and a TERF and a Nazi. Reiterating biological facts and being against medically transing children, keeping trans women out of women's sports, and keeping trans women out of women's prisons and other spaces makes me the evil one. Apparently.

At least you know where you stand with the regnant powers. I am a biologist with graduate work in biochemistry. I know too much biology to be woke, and am thus also a Nazi extremist. I don't know how a professor of biology can endure these days.

 

[Rely_942]

I voted Moderate, Pro-Choice Democrat.

Would I have a problem with gay marriage? Yes.

Would I have a problem with gay members? No.

Would I have a problem with a Priest having a history of homosexuality? No.

Would I have a problem with clergy being actively and currently homosexual? Yes. (Oh, Lord have mercy.)

For the record: I have not really gotten to the portion of CCC on pro-life matters. Is it obviously pro-life or is the issue debatable?

 

[Michie]

I voted Moderate, Pro-Choice Democrat.

Would I have a problem with gay marriage? Yes.

Would I have a problem with gay members? No.

Would I have a problem with a Priest having a history of homosexuality? No.

Would I have a problem with clergy being actively and currently homosexual? Yes. (Oh, Lord have mercy.)

For the record: I have not really gotten to the portion of CCC on pro-life matters. Is it obviously pro-life or is the issue debatable?

Not debatable.

 

[Rely_942]

Not debatable.

Okay, please cite the CCC numbers...

 

[Michie]

Okay, please cite the CCC numbers...

The Church believes in the sanctity of life from conception to natural death.

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[chevyontheriver]

I voted Moderate, Pro-Choice Democrat.

Would I have a problem with gay marriage? Yes.

Would I have a problem with gay members? No.

Would I have a problem with a Priest having a history of homosexuality? No.

Would I have a problem with clergy being actively and currently homosexual? Yes. (Oh, Lord have mercy.)

For the record: I have not really gotten to the portion of CCC on pro-life matters. Is it obviously pro-life or is the issue debatable?

Welcome. Sounds like you are reading the Catechism of the Catholic Church, progressing along. Great. I suggest it helped my wife read it by also following along with Fr. Mike Schmidt's 'Catechism in a year.' I also liked it. The CCC is pretty darn good. Also good are the Catechism of the Council of Trent (also with a readalong companion in a bit less than a year) and the new Credo by Fr. Athanasius Schneider. the advantage of more than one catechism is a richer perspective on the same material.

This particular thread is not one for argumentation, but mostly for listing political affiliations so we can all know where we are individually coming from. For me, I was a Democrat, specifically a Humphrey Democrat, that got pushed out. I then became a Republican, but they respected me even if they thought my siding with labor over management was a bit odd. I would have stayed Republican but for Donald Trump, who now pretty much owns the Republican Party. I have declared my independence again and prefer now the platform of the American Solidarity Party. I am also a bit of a ChesterBellocian to top it off.

The OBOB forum is pretty solidly pro-life, and not a good place to stake out a pro-abortion position. This thread, of course, is informational and not argumentative, so we won't be discussing any more of that in this thread.

 

[Rely_942]

Okay, I understand and submit to that.

What does OBOB stand for?

 

[Michie]

Okay, I understand and submit to that.

What does OBOB stand for?

One Bread One Body. Like the hymn.

 

[jamiec]

No British options?

Apparently not LOL. Even in Church matters, it seems to be assumed that everyone is from the USA. IOW, that Catholicism is not catholic at all, but is purely American. Which makes sense, if the USA is the only country in the world. The last thing the Church needed was a USA pope - that will not weaken the delusion that the USA is the only country of any importance.