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[Antigone]

So there will be no British entries?

You mean there's a world outside the USA?

 

[JoabAnias]

You mean there's a world outside the USA?

Yea but the U.S. military occupies it.

 

[Rebekka]

-Pro-life.
-Pro-death penalty.

And what do you mean when you say you're a fascist?

 

[Antigone]

And what do you mean when you say you're a fascist?

More importantly, have you ever seen The Young Ones?

 

[Andrew Ryan]

Where is the confusion?

And what do you mean when you say you're a fascist?

What do you think I mean?

"I'm Fascist," meaning I support and sympathize with Fascism, like Franco's Spain or Mussolini's Italy.

 

[Antigone]

Where is the confusion?



What do you think I mean?

"I'm Fascist," meaning I support and sympathize with Fascism, like Franco's Spain or Mussolini's Italy.

Oh man, you'd better be pulling my leg on this one.

You know they were downright evil, right? Killed thousands, tens of thousands of people? Nazi sympathisers? Oppressed and killed their opponents? Executed dissidents?

Why on earth would you want to be associated with these bastards?

 

[Andrew Ryan]

I would like to point out that I have no intention debating this and I'm just clearing things up.

Oh man, you'd better be pulling my leg on this one.

No but we can still be friends.

You know they were downright evil, right?

Subjective.

Killed thousands, tens of thousands of people?

What other State hasn't done this also?

Nazi sympathisers?

I firmly, strongly and unwaveringly rebuke and denounce all forms of racism, racial superiority and any connections towards Nazism both the historical Third Reich and neo-Nazis.

Oppressed and killed their opponents?

Again, what State hasn't?

But really, just because I agree with Fascism doesn't mean I give my rubber stamp of approval for everything that was done in X state.

 

[Antigone]

And they accuse me of moral relativism...

Dude, I respect your wish not to debate this, but you're going to be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks Mussolini and Franco were good leaders.

 

[Rebekka]

Where is the confusion?

Pro-life and pro-death penalty are mutually exclusive, since the death penalty has to do with killing people.


(Note to self: Why do I still visit OBOB? )

What do you think I mean?

"I'm Fascist," meaning I support and sympathize with Fascism, like Franco's Spain or Mussolini's Italy.

Well, you said you didn't want to debate. So I'll just say that I disagree with your political ideas.

 

[Andrew Ryan]

Pro-life and pro-death penalty are mutually exclusive, since the death penalty has to do with killing people.

It's about bringing justice. They are not mutually exlcusive, the death penalty was mandated by God numerous times throughout the Bible, I see no problem with bringing about justice to those whom deserve it. Though, this is not the place to debate such things, just say what you are and believe and such. I don't want to derail the thread because my position and views are "controversial."

(Note to self: Why do I still visit OBOB? )

Awwwe, don't let me scare you away sis, I'm a pretty swell fella.

 

[SolomonVII]

Fascism of the Mussolini and Franco variety have strong ties to Catholicism. Strong central government, limited socialism and free enterprise, it is probably very close to what Bismark embarked on in Germany, and what is now happening in China.

Its association with Catholicism has not been a credit to the Catholic Church. On the other hand, with the EC bringing more and more of the decision making out of the hands of the people, and into the hands of distant bureaucracies, perhaps Europe's future has a lot in common with a secular form of fascism. That is not hard to imagine.

There have been a handful of Catholics still singing the praises of Catholic fascism in forums such as these. It is like flogging a dead horse, I think.

For myself, I will stick to stressing the American Triumviate of "Liberty". "in God we Trust", and "e pluribus unum", as the best that can be hoped for in shaping any society. Maybe that is flogging a dead horse too now, especially in Europe, but it is the system that has had the most to offer in history.

 

[Rebekka]

It's about bringing justice. They are not mutually exlcusive, the death penalty was mandated by God numerous times throughout the Bible, I see no problem with bringing about justice to those whom deserve it. Though, this is not the place to debate such things, just say what you are and believe and such. I don't want to derail the thread because my position and views are "controversial."



Awwwe, don't let me scare you away sis, I'm a pretty swell fella.

Justice has nothing to do with pro-life. I can understand why some see the death penalty as just, but you can't be pro-life and pro-death penalty at the same time. I think it's better to speak of anti-abortion in that case.

 

[AMDG]

Self-proclaimed Conservative (but actually not affliated with any party), definitely pro-life, supports Traditional Marriage, Conservative Catholic.

Not a choice, but I think it matters (since it has to do with pro-life, the fact that I support Traditional Marriage, and do not think that homosexuality is a moral good), I am a signer of the Manhatten Declaration.

 

[SolomonVII]

It's about bringing justice. They are not mutually exlcusive, the death penalty was mandated by God numerous times throughout the Bible, I see no problem with bringing about justice to those whom deserve it. Though, this is not the place to debate such things, just say what you are and believe and such. I don't want to derail the thread because my position and views are "controversial."

Proclaiming that the wages of sin are death wouldn't mean that God is not pro-life either.
Nor would amputating a cancer or a gangrenous limb make someone anti-life on that account.

 

[SolomonVII]

Self-proclaimed Conservative (but actually not affliated with any party), definitely pro-life, supports Traditional Marriage, Conservative Catholic.

Not a choice, but I think it matters (since it has to do with pro-life, the fact that I support Traditional Marriage, and do not think that homosexuality is a moral good), I am a signer of the Manhatten Declaration.

I signed that declaration too, some time back.

It is like turning back the tide with a bucket though.

 

[AMDG]

It is like turning back the tide with a bucket though.

Yeah, I know. But at least it's something. And it does tell people exactly where one stands--almost like "what you see is what you get".

 

[ChiRho78]

I can't believe I am alone as the lone pro-choice guy in this poll.

all I could vote for, for sure was conservative, and pro-choice (glad the poll supported multiple options)

 

[InfinityandBeyond]

I am a democrat, pro-life, and prefer traditional marriage over civil union, and a moderate.

 

[Virgil the Roman]

I am:

Pro-Life
Pro-Traditional Marriage

Traditionalist Roman Catholic
Paleoconservative
'Conservative Catholic'
Anti-Capitalist Conservative/Anti-Capitalist 'Right'
Anti-Socialist
Anti-Bolshevist
Anti-Usurious Capitalism
Anti-Marxist
Anti-Communist
Anti-Totalitarianism
Anti-Egalitarianism
Against Tyranny, Despotism, Evil, and Sin.
Political party: Independent/Constitution party/Third Party/Libertarian Party*













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(*I like them as a Third Party; although, I am not very Libertarian nor do I generally identify with such much. I empathise and sympathise with their views and points sometimes (and I did for a brief while identify as a Libertarian for time), however, I have come to oppose Usurious Capitalism as much as the tyranny of Socialism. However, I think support the Libertarian Party (LP) would scale back the size and scope of the gov't.


And while I am no full libertarian, I do think that LP could be a useful tool towards restoring our Constitutional and Divine-given Rights and Liberties; and to actually cut gov't's size and scope rather than lie about it, as the Dems and Republicans do by defrauding us out of our tax monies and corrupting our government even more.

 

[WisdomTree]

Liberalism is necessary for freedom, but not at the cost of security which Conservatism protects. Progressivism is necessary for society, but not at the cost of morals which is defined by Traditionalism.

Pro-Life, Pro-Death, Sanctity of Marriage (No such thing as "Gay Marriage"), but will not go out of my way to protest against what the society wants cause we live in a democracy (apparently).