Reading Lahaye...

[2tim]

Agreed. But if there are, they do not contain the words "gospel" or "theatrical." I read all five of those. They are as above.

 

[Olikamay]

This is the second time I recall you making this claim. For oiur benefit, would you mind posting the relevant quotation?

Hmmm statrei, I do not recall posting that before--can you refresh me please?

 

[statrei]

Hmmm statrei, I do not recall posting that before--can you refresh me please?

There you go again, chasing rabbits. Let us assume this was the first time.

 

[2tim]

Hi Tim--I have not read the Left Behind books. I have however seen a movie on one of the religious stations based on the books. I have to say that I laughed thru most of it--nothing in it came remotely close to the bible model of end time events. I do know that they claim that their interpretation is based on Dan. 9. , but unfortunately they MISinterpret that prophecy. I can see why the SOP said that nothing of a theatrical nature should come into the gospel work.

You said it here to dear sister.
S'okay. You had the general gist I think.

2Tim

 

[statrei]

You said it here to dear sister.
S'okay. You had the general gist I think.

2Tim

Thanks, Tim. You aint heavy. You're my brother.

 

[deu58]

The Adventist home, Chapter How the Christian Chooses his recreation, Pg 516

The only safe course is to shun the theater, the circus, and every other questionable place of amusement. {AH 516.2}

Dancing--a School of Depravity.--In many religious families dancing and card playing are made a parlor pastime. It is urged that these are quiet home amusements, which may be safely enjoyed under the parental eye. But a love for these exciting pleasures is thus cultivated, and that which was considered harmless



The Adventist home, Chapter 83 The lure of Pleasure Pg 522

The desire for excitement and pleasing entertainment is a temptation and a snare to God's people and especially to the young. Satan is constantly preparing inducements to attract minds from the solemn work of preparation for scenes just in the future. Through the agency of worldlings he keeps up a continual excitement to induce the unwary to join in worldly pleasures. There are shows, lectures, and an endless variety of entertainments that are calculated to lead to a love of the world; and through this union with the world, faith is weakened.

And before somebody claims I am being anti SDA I actually agree with what she is saying here,

yours in Christ
deu 58

 

[2tim]

No worries Statrei. Trying to bring peace.

 

[2tim]

The Adventist home, Chapter How the Christian Chooses his recreation, Pg 516

The only safe course is to shun the theater, the circus, and every other questionable place of amusement. {AH 516.2}

Dancing--a School of Depravity.--In many religious families dancing and card playing are made a parlor pastime. It is urged that these are quiet home amusements, which may be safely enjoyed under the parental eye. But a love for these exciting pleasures is thus cultivated, and that which was considered harmless



The Adventist home, Chapter 83 The lure of Pleasure Pg 522

The desire for excitement and pleasing entertainment is a temptation and a snare to God's people and especially to the young. Satan is constantly preparing inducements to attract minds from the solemn work of preparation for scenes just in the future. Through the agency of worldlings he keeps up a continual excitement to induce the unwary to join in worldly pleasures. There are shows, lectures, and an endless variety of entertainments that are calculated to lead to a love of the world; and through this union with the world, faith is weakened.

And before somebody claims I am being anti SDA I actually agree with what she is saying here,

yours in Christ
deu 58

I agree with what she's saying here too. And I don't think these quotes apply to a fiction book.

2Tim

 

[deu58]

Hi 2tim

I agree with what she's saying here too. And I don't think these quotes apply to a fiction book.

2Tim

That would depend on the content of the book, I enjoy reading Frank Perritti,

But Tom Clancy, All though an excellent fiction writer uses death, Profanity sex etc to present his stories,

Or how about Stephen King, Another well known excellent fiction writer, Ok to read the book but do not go see the movie???

 

[2tim]

Hi 2tim


That would depend on the content of the book, I enjoy reading Frank Perritti,

But Tom Clancy, All though an excellent fiction writer uses death, Profanity sex etc to present his stories,

Or how about Stephen King, Another well known excellent fiction writer, Ok to read the book but do not go see the movie???

I agree. Although "death" and "violence" have their place in the truth. The hard part is having the discipline not to be entertained by these things but educated by them. For instance...

1Ki 18:40 And Elijah said unto them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there.

I'm not advocating violent entertainment. But the events of violence sometimes have a valuable lesson and glossing them can undo that good.

2Tim

 

[statrei]

Hi 2tim


That would depend on the content of the book, I enjoy reading Frank Perritti,

But Tom Clancy, All though an excellent fiction writer uses death, Profanity sex etc to present his stories,

Or how about Stephen King, Another well known excellent fiction writer, Ok to read the book but do not go see the movie???

The Bible is full of rape, incest and prostitution. And that does not include Solomon's Song.

 

[statrei]

I agree with what she's saying here too. And I don't think these quotes apply to a fiction book.

2Tim

Nor was a connection made to the gospel, which was the issue being debated.

 

[2tim]

Nor was a connection made to the gospel, which was the issue being debated.

Right. I think the qoute that I......quoted is the one she's talking about.

2Tim

 

[deu58]

The Bible is full of rape, incest and prostitution. And that does not include Solomon's Song.

To most of us, The Bible is not a work of fiction, History and other factual accounts record the same things, But they do not do so for entertainment,

They do so to pass on knowledge

 

[SassySDA]

Hi 2tim


That would depend on the content of the book, I enjoy reading Frank Perritti,

But Tom Clancy, All though an excellent fiction writer uses death, Profanity sex etc to present his stories,

Or how about Stephen King, Another well known excellent fiction writer, Ok to read the book but do not go see the movie???

Most often, King novels turned cinematic are a disappointment. The only book of his that was put on a screen that actually stayed MOSTLY (not 100%, but closest) to the script of the book was "The Stand", and that was because he wouldn't let the BIG SCREEN even attempt it. The story was much too long and involved for a 2-3 hour movie. Thus the tv mini-series.

Usually his books are butchered by Hollywood. I used to go to movies a lot, and King genre was my favorite fair, but that was pre-Adventism, and pre-bible study.

I agree, the violence told of in the Bible is not for entertainment's sake.

 

[SassySDA]

Hi all

From what I have seen the main complaint against the Lahaye books are that they promote a false sense of hope, This charge mainly comes from those who do not believe in a pretrib rapture,

The books follow the premill point of view of the end times,

All though I have read them and enjoyed them I still thought the books were a little corny, By this I mean the writing style itself,

In the Premill pointof view the books are fictional in the sense of the characters, But as to the events of tribulation as they unfolded in the book that to the premills is not fiction,

That is how they believe the book of revelation will be fulfilled,

yours in Christ
deu 58

Correct deu. When I read this series I was not long out from under the influence of the Fire and Brimstone I was raised on...these books epitomized what I had been taught as to how the book of Revelation would be fulfilled.

 

[StormyOne]

The book, The Adventist Home came out in the 1950s.... EGW died in 1915.... she didn't write that book..... Someone compiled it.... Compilations are NOT good....

 

[StormyOne]

Most often, King novels turned cinematic are a disappointment. The only book of his that was put on a screen that actually stayed MOSTLY (not 100%, but closest) to the script of the book was "The Stand", and that was because he wouldn't let the BIG SCREEN even attempt it. The story was much too long and involved for a 2-3 hour movie. Thus the tv mini-series.

Usually his books are butchered by Hollywood. I used to go to movies a lot, and King genre was my favorite fair, but that was pre-Adventism, and pre-bible study.

I agree, the violence told of in the Bible is not for entertainment's sake.

Not true Sassy....The Green Mile which was written by King was a good movie and followed the book.... Also the movie Shawshank Redemption was written by King and followed the short story very well..... King tells a good story, definitely one of my favs... but a digress......

 

[2tim]

The book, The Adventist Home came out in the 1950s.... EGW died in 1915.... she didn't write that book..... Someone compiled it.... Compilations are NOT good....

I'll agree that they're not as good, context being ever important, but they do have value when looking for all that she wrote on a particular topic. That is the point I belive.

2tim

 

[StormyOne]

I'll agree that they're not as good, context being ever important, but they do have value when looking for all that she wrote on a particular topic. That is the point I belive.

2tim

Taking her out of context is not good... that is akin to me taking your posts and everything you said about the word "good" pulling it out and compiling a totally different comment... context is lost..... NOT good... IMO....