Reading Lahaye...

[2tim]

Hi tim



It has been along time since I read the first book, But if I remember one of the things they pointed out was all the accidents that happened because transport operators of every stripe were raptured,

Yeah. It just seemed like a big theme in the book. Like there weren't deeper implications that could have been explored. For instance, the military did not seem curtailed in the least. And the disappearance of ALL the worlds children seemed but a side note.

2Tim

 

[statrei]

statrei--may I ask you to answer questions in a respectful and orderly manner? I have no idea why you keep referring to rabbits. Perhaps it's a private funny you enjoy, but to me-it's rude.

And NO—let’s NOT assume this is the first time I said it--because YOU made the accusation that I had posted that before. I just went over all of my posts in this forum, and unless I totally missed it--I cannot find any other time that I posted something about theatrics except this one....



Hi Tim--I have not read the Left Behind books. I have however seen a movie on one of the religious stations based on the books. I have to say that I laughed thru most of it--nothing in it came remotely close to the bible model of end time events. I do know that they claim that their interpretation is based on Dan. 9. , but unfortunately they MISinterpret that prophecy. I can see why the SOP said that nothing of a theatrical nature should come into the gospel work.



Perhaps you are confusing me with someone else.

I probably am, but Tim had already posted the other post, which was the first time you made the claim. Now we know the facts. Well, we always did.

 

[Olikamay]

Good Lord

 

[2tim]

Oy. Leave me out of it. I was just trying to help with the clerical part.

Heh.

2T

 

[statrei]

Oy. Leave me out of it. I was just trying to help with the clerical part.

Heh.

2T

Typical scribe.

 

[2tim]

Typical scribe.

You know it baby. Thanks for noticing.

2Tim

 

[SpeakNow]

Jonno, even Lahaye admits his writings are complete works of fiction. I think what most people in this thread are ridiculing is how some people take it for fact, and don't bother referring to their Bibles to see if any of it is scripturally sound.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 - And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

There won't be ANYBODY "left behind."

 

[statrei]

It is not surprising that you enjoy ridiculing a viewpoint that is not as you believe. The only similarity between yourselves and La haye is your dogmatism. I dont think we should be too dogmatic about these non-salvational issues because as you well know our record historically is not impressive. Remember 1843/44,47,48,50odd, shut door?
We would all do well to take heed of the following quotation.
" Childish dogmatism invariably leads to grown up puppyism"

May God bless you
Jonno

It may be time to start a thread on this concept of "non-salvational" issues. Everything we believe says something about the character of God. Jesus said, "This is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God." Can we really dismiss anything as not being salvational?

 

[2tim]

It is not surprising that you enjoy ridiculing a viewpoint that is not as you believe.
May God bless you
Jonno

Well, for my own part - I'm just critiquing a literary work. As an author, critically reading other material (good or bad) is a neccessary skill set. I mean no offence and I doubt LaHaye would take any offence. He knows that there are some who think his story is silly.

I'm one of them.

2Tim

 

[2tim]

It may be time to start a thread on this concept of "non-salvational" issues. Everything we believe says something about the character of God. Jesus said, "This is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God." Can we really dismiss anything as not being salvational?

Amen. Good thread Idea. You start it and I'll participate!

2Tim

 

[statrei]

Well, for my own part - I'm just critiquing a literary work. As an author, critically reading other material (good or bad) is a neccessary skill set. I mean no offence and I doubt LaHaye would take any offence. He knows that there are some who think his story is silly.

I'm one of them.

2Tim

We should be astounded by the fact that religious hysteria can transform literary junk into a blockbuster.

 

[jonno]

Hello Jonno here
A writer to this forum, whom I will refrain from identifying has privately asked to me to remove my last posting from this forum and has threatened to report me to the moderator. The reason I'm posting this is because I do not seem to get that feeling from the rest of the repliers to my posting. Most seem to be taking it as mature christians and in the spirit in which I posted it which I promise you was good
Should I remove it?
Love and God bless

Jonno

 

[2tim]

Hello Jonno here
A writer to this forum, whom I will refrain from identifying has privately asked to me to remove my last posting from this forum and has threatened to report me to the moderator. The reason I'm posting this is because I do not seem to get that feeling from the rest of the repliers to my posting. Most seem to be taking it as mature christians and in the spirit in which I posted it which I promise you was good
Should I remove it?
Love and God bless

Jonno

While I personally was not offended by the post Jonno, I can see how some might be. Pointing to the errors of others is rarely a beneficial way to make a point. Seems like dangerous ground. I know that yuo were trying to impress upon us that we were doing the same, and you may or may not have had a valid point. The problem is that for some, your point was missed because of its delivery. I hope this helps brother. And thanks for asking.

2Tim

 

[statrei]

Hello Jonno here
A writer to this forum, whom I will refrain from identifying has privately asked to me to remove my last posting from this forum and has threatened to report me to the moderator. The reason I'm posting this is because I do not seem to get that feeling from the rest of the repliers to my posting. Most seem to be taking it as mature christians and in the spirit in which I posted it which I promise you was good
Should I remove it?
Love and God bless

Jonno

It is more a question of adhering to the rules. You don't have to remove the post. You only need to reword it so that it does not come across that you are criticizing this community. Instead of saying the difference between LaHaye and yourselves, say, LaHaye is no different from other who, etc.

 

[jonno]

It is more a question of adhering to the rules. You don't have to remove the post. You only need to reword it so that it does not come across that you are criticizing this community. Instead of saying the difference between LaHaye and yourselves, say, LaHaye is no different from other who, etc.

Thank you Statrei, we're all still learning. Most of all me.
Instead of rewriting may I just clarify>
1. yourselves = some participating in this thread and others
2.we and our = (includes me) in the adventist community

Once again thank you and God bless
Jonno

 

[SassySDA]

Jonno, even Lahaye admits his writings are complete works of fiction. I think what most people in this thread are ridiculing is how some people take it for fact, and don't bother referring to their Bibles to see if any of it is scripturally sound.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 - And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

There won't be ANYBODY "left behind."

That's correct Speak, that is exactly what was being ridiculed. Authors often don't stop to realize how their works, even though they are fiction, can affect the public.

There are a couple of books that come to mind right now, that even though the authors SWEAR they are works of FICTION, have been responsible for more than one death. I will not mention the names, simply because I don't want to increase their readership. One of them is a handbook for terrorists and the other is a "how to be a hitman" novel.

Extreme examples? Possibly, but anything that could threaten someone's salvation with the Lord by giving false information that may be mistaken for "truth", is JUST as extreme, in my opinion.

 

[jonno]

It may be time to start a thread on this concept of "non-salvational" issues.
Everything we believe says something about the character of God.
AGREED

Jesus said, "This is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God."
CONTEXT?

Can we really dismiss anything as not being salvational?
CAREFUL...CAREFUL

ENJOY YOUR DAY!

 

[statrei]

ENJOY YOUR DAY!

You said Context, and Careful in that post. Don't know what to make of it.

 

[jonno]

You said Context, and Careful in that post. Don't know what to make of it.

In a previous post you stated " Can we really dismiss anything as not being salvational"
Please explain

 

[statrei]

In a previous post you stated " Can we really dismiss anything as not being salvational"
Please explain

Since everything we do reflects our view of God and salvation is linked to our knowledge of God, how can we defend that divide?