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2tim said:
Statrei and I have shaken hands and appologised to each other. We both are still growing, Praise the Lord. Anyway, I'm here and I wondered if yuo guys wanted to go back to talking about LaHaye's writing.

Since that's what it started out as... ;)

Yes? No? Indifferent?

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Hi Tim--I have not read the Left Behind books. I have however seen a movie on one of the religious stations based on the books. I have to say that I laughed thru most of it--nothing in it came remotely close to the bible model of end time events. I do know that they claim that their interpretation is based on Dan. 9. , but unfortunately they MISinterpret that prophecy. I can see why the SOP said that nothing of a theatrical nature should come into the gospel work.
 
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Olikamay said:
Hi Tim--I have not read the Left Behind books. I have however seen a movie on one of the religious stations based on the books. I have to say that I laughed thru most of it--nothing in it came remotely close to the bible model of end time events. I do know that they claim that their interpretation is based on Dan. 9. , but unfortunately they MISinterpret that prophecy. I can see why the SOP said that nothing of a theatrical nature should come into the gospel work.

I rented the movie too, just out of sheer curiosity. From a literary standpoint (I'm an author, so I'm kinda crtitcal - it's a good discipline) It's just silly. My favorite part was the two witnesses :doh: and how when the Nicolae said, "Now begins our seven years of peace," no one asked him what in the world he was talking about. They were all just like "Okay. Cool."

I would've said "Hey man. That's the best you can do, seven years and then it's right back to disaster area? Clean out your desk toughguy." :sorry:

In Left Behind, I love the doctor who's "bored " so he patches up Steele - bored, even though there's like a gazillion plain crash victims right outside the door. Awesome. :scratch:

2Tim
 
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Olikamay said:
Hi Tim--I have not read the Left Behind books. I have however seen a movie on one of the religious stations based on the books. I have to say that I laughed thru most of it--nothing in it came remotely close to the bible model of end time events. I do know that they claim that their interpretation is based on Dan. 9. , but unfortunately they MISinterpret that prophecy. I can see why the SOP said that nothing of a theatrical nature should come into the gospel work.

The authors were very plain and stated in clear English that it was a work of FICTION. So why they would even say that they based it on Daniel 9 is beyond me. They may have gotten a lot of their ideas from Daniel 9, and more than likely interpreted it wrong as many, many others do. My point is, it was a work of fiction, never intended for anyone to use as their guidebook to "end times".

As a piece of fiction, I read the series and enjoyed it. I know many others who did too. But believing that it was true and biblical, would be the same thing to me as saying the Omen was a biography.
 
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Hi all

From what I have seen the main complaint against the Lahaye books are that they promote a false sense of hope, This charge mainly comes from those who do not believe in a pretrib rapture,

The books follow the premill point of view of the end times,

All though I have read them and enjoyed them I still thought the books were a little corny, By this I mean the writing style itself,

In the Premill pointof view the books are fictional in the sense of the characters, But as to the events of tribulation as they unfolded in the book that to the premills is not fiction,

That is how they believe the book of revelation will be fulfilled,

yours in Christ
deu 58
 
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SassySDA said:
The authors were very plain and stated in clear English that it was a work of FICTION. So why they would even say that they based it on Daniel 9 is beyond me. They may have gotten a lot of their ideas from Daniel 9, and more than likely interpreted it wrong as many, many others do. My point is, it was a work of fiction, never intended for anyone to use as their guidebook to "end times".

As a piece of fiction, I read the series and enjoyed it. I know many others who did too. But believing that it was true and biblical, would be the same thing to me as saying the Omen was a biography.
I have listened to many great sermons that were obvious works of fiction based on biblical text. One that comes to mind is "A Knock at Midnight" by Dr. Martin Luther King.
 
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statrei said:
This is the second time I recall you making this claim. For oiur benefit, would you mind posting the relevant quotation?

She is right, The SOP is very much against entertainment, No dancing, circus, card playing, theater etc.
 
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deu58 said:
She is right, The SOP is very much against entertainment, No dancing, circus, card playing, theater etc.
I did not ask whether she was right, wrong or left. I asked her to post the quotation. I suggest that you curb your anti-Adventist sentiment when you post on this sub-Forum.
 
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Tangnefedd said:
I think those left behind books are some of the most badly written trash I have ever come across!

I found a great blog where (what I considered) a very astute reader went through and critiqued the first novel for its storytelling - it's a riot. He goes through chapter by chapter pointing out incongruities, incontinuities and just plain poor skill.

Jenkins writes (by his own admission) and edits "20 pages a day" and conducts a writing course. At that rate it's no wonder that the authorship is poor (IMO and his).

Personlly, I get about four pages a day done on my book that are (I pray) worth reading.


(I'm not trying to be unkind, just critiquing the work) ;) 2Tim
 
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Hello Stateri

statrei said:
I did not ask whether she was right, wrong or left. I asked her to post the quotation. I suggest that you curb your anti-Adventist sentiment when you post on this sub-Forum.

Talk about having a chip on your shoulder, I simply said that the poster is correct, If really want to see them I can look them up for you my self,
 
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2tim said:
I found a great blog where (what I considered) a very astute reader went through and critiqued the first novel for its storytelling - it's a riot. He goes through chapter by chapter pointing out incongruities, incontinuities and just plain poor skill.

Jenkins writes (by his own admission) and edits "20 pages a day" and conducts a writing course. At that rate it's no wonder that the authorship is poor (IMO and his).

Personlly, I get about four pages a day done on my book that are (I pray) worth reading.


(I'm not trying to be unkind, just critiquing the work) ;) 2Tim
I'm lucky if I get 4 paragraphs a day. However, this is my first writing attempt. It should get easier next time around.
 
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What she actually said had nothing to do with books or fiction per se - but on preaching. Here is the quote.

"Some ministers make the mistake of supposing that success depends on drawing a large congregation by outward display, and then delivering the message of truth in a theatrical style. But this is using common fire instead of the sacred fire of God's kindling. The Lord is not glorified by this manner of working.

-Gospel Workers, p. 383.

;) the 2Timster
 
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2tim said:
What she actually said had nothing to do with books or fiction per se - but on preaching. Here is the quote.

"Some ministers make the mistake of supposing that success depends on drawing a large congregation by outward display, and then delivering the message of truth in a theatrical style. But this is using common fire instead of the sacred fire of God's kindling. The Lord is not glorified by this manner of working.

-Gospel Workers, p. 383.

;) the 2Timster
That is why I asked for the quote. It so easy to take an idea out of context. But, we should wait. There may be other passages.
 
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