Reading Lahaye...

[statrei]

Why use the image of a prophet at all? Why not say a destist isn't popular in his own town? You have yet to add more than a single leg to this stool Statrei.

So far it's a lot of reading between the lines. Now I know that if ew have three or four scriptures that allude to the same thing - sometimes between the lines is valid. But not with a SINGLE scripture, that's too flimsy.

C'mon, you're holding out. I can take it. Where's the solid Scriptural basis for the truth that all who prophecy are not prophets?

2Tim

It is the same thing like saying "Between a rock and a hard place." If Jesus was a prophet tell me who was His source?

 

[2tim]

Then, I must ask whether you are willing to do everything that EGW has recommended because that is the only honest way to deal with a prophet. If you don't, if there is even one way in which would not you would be guilty of being convenient in your interpretation.

The Spirit of prophecy is appllied to the lives of this household more and more with each passing day. Are we living up to all of the light we have? I think I see room for improvement.

Let's get away from my diligence and return to defining prophets.

2Tim

 

[statrei]

The Spirit of prophecy is appllied to the lives of this household more and more with each passing day. Are we living up to all of the light we have? I think I see room for improvement.

Let's get away from my diligence and return to defining prophets.

2Tim

Your claims define your diligence. If you don't think that everything she said should be followed then you are not treating her as a prophet and it would be dishonest to give her that title selectively just to bolster a doctrinal position.

 

[2tim]

It is the same thing like saying "Between a rock and a hard place." If Jesus was a prophet tell me who was His source?

John 8:26-27, "Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

2Tim

 

[2tim]

Your claims define your diligence. If you don't think that everything she said should be followed then you are not treating her as a prophet and it would be dishonest to give her that title selectively just to bolster a doctrinal position.

That's not what I said. What I said was, we (in my household) still have council that we need to follow but do not.

BIG difference.

2Tim

 

[statrei]

That's not what I said. What I said was, we (in my household) still have council that we need to follow but do not.

BIG difference.

2Tim

I did not ask you about your family dynamics.

 

[statrei]

John 8:26-27, "Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

2Tim

I think that we would be better served by a more rigorous approach to biblical scholarship. The equivalent of proof-texting may advance our position but in the end it is dangerous.

 

[2tim]

We're done for today, you and me. I do repectful, kind conversation and even debate. Insults are my signal to extract myself lest we sin. Talk to you tomorrow brother.

God bless.

2Tim

 

[statrei]

We're done for today, you and me. I do repectful, kind conversation and even debate. Insults are my signal to extract myself lest we sin. Talk to you tomorrow brother.

God bless.

2Tim

I did not intend to insult. Scholarship is a matter of experience. It develops with time.

 

[Olikamay]

If that is the extent of you biblical scholarship you have some way to go yet. Proof-texting is dangerous.

Rule No. 1 - No "Flaming"
1.1 You will not post any messages that harass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest.
1.2 You may discuss another member's beliefs but there will be no personal (ad hominem) attacks on the member himself or herself.

Your breaking the rules Statrei!!!!!

 

[statrei]

Rule No. 1 - No "Flaming"
1.1 You will not post any messages that harass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest.
1.2 You may discuss another member's beliefs but there will be no personal (ad hominem) attacks on the member himself or herself.

Your breaking the rules Statrei!!!!!

Do you prefer to insult God by callng him a prophet? That is how He is portrayed in Islam and in Judaism. I did not intend to insult Tim. I took objection that he was simply putting forward unrelated texts to hold on to an untenable position.

 

[Olikamay]

Do you prefer to insult God by callng him a prophet? That is how He is portrayed in Islam and in Judaism. I did not intend to insult Tim. I took objection that he was simply putting forward unrelated texts to hold on to an untenable position.

Statrei--since coming into this forum, I have noticed that you never answer a question forthrightly--but rather, inject another question. That is very disrespectful. Also--you always put "words in people's mouths).

Case in point--I NEVER called God a prophet--you pulled that out of the air. Then to make me look bad---you interject the words "Islam and Judaism" in the same breath hoping that someone will make the mental leap that I sympothize with Islam or Judaism. I think this is a very low tactic. Please try to refrain from this behavior --thank you.

 

[statrei]

Statrei--since coming into this forum, I have noticed that you never answer a question forthrightly--but rather, inject another question. That is very disrespectful. Also--you always put "words in people's mouths).

Case in point--I NEVER called God a prophet--you pulled that out of the air. Then to make me look bad---you interject the words "Islam and Judaism" in the same breath hoping that someone will make the mental leap that I sympothize with Islam or Judaism. I think this is a very low tactic. Please try to refrain from this behavior --thank you.

Then we need to know whether you believe Jesus Christ is God or not. Your willingness to conjure up the spectre of disrespect as a means of wielding some form of control won't work on this side of the aisle. If you are not aware of what your words mean then I have some responsibility to raise it. I did not say you said it. I asked whether you agree with it. How can you say you did not call God a prophet when you jumped into the debate on the side of the individual who was objecting to my comment that Jesus was not a prophet?

 

[StormyOne]

Prophets got their message from God.... Jesus was God....so in essence He gave Himself the message? Hmmmm someone is suggesting Jesus was hearing voices..... that's not good....

 

[statrei]

Prophets got their message from God.... Jesus was God....so in essence He gave Himself the message? Hmmmm someone is suggesting Jesus was hearing voices..... that's not good....

Either that or He was not God. Neither option is good.

 

[remnantrob]

Aren't we taught that Christ is phrophet, priest and king? Just curious.

 

[statrei]

Aren't we taught that Christ is phrophet, priest and king? Just curious.

You may soon discover that a great deal of what you were taught just is not true. We have been far too trusting.

 

[StormyOne]

Aren't we taught that Christ is phrophet, priest and king? Just curious.

We were also taught that Noah preached 120 years and that he built a boat but no one else decided to join he and his family..... not exactly the truth... but I digress....

 

[2tim]

Statrei and I have shaken hands and appologised to each other. We both are still growing, Praise the Lord. Anyway, I'm here and I wondered if yuo guys wanted to go back to talking about LaHaye's writing.

Since that's what it started out as...

Yes? No? Indifferent?

2Tim

 

[StormyOne]

Sure, but I will respond when I get home as its time for me to go.....