Questions about origins of life timeline

[dad]

So are the words of the happy little elves. What's that? A simple claim does nothing to convince you? Then wy are you doing it to me?

You can insult the bible all you like, it still outweighs your opinion to many of us.

You do realise that this attitude of "Unless we know for sure it was different, it must have been the same" is absolutely stupid, yes?

No. You don't know. God does. You do not get to call His claims silly, based on nothing at all.

So if I show you something icky, how do you differentiate between natural beautiful ickiness and sin ickiness?

Ask God. He can show you stuff. Being born again is like being born, and then you start to learn things in the spirit.

Well, I;ve never seen reality show any signs of caring. Have you?

Yes. Mothers love their kids generally, some love their animals, and spouses, and God gives us sunshine and water and plants and life etc etc etc. Love exists.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Yes. Mothers love their kids generally, some love their animals, and spouses, and God gives us sunshine and water and plants and life etc etc etc. Love exists.

I almost envy your lack of personal experience with hardship.

 

[Kylie]

You can insult the bible all you like, it still outweighs your opinion to many of us.

And reality outweighs the Bible.

No. You don't know. God does. You do not get to call His claims silly, based on nothing at all.

Funny, because so much of your posts are based on nothing at all, such as your different state past idea. have you EVER given evidence for that?

Ask God. He can show you stuff. Being born again is like being born, and then you start to learn things in the spirit.

God knows I'm open to anything he'd be willing to do to show me he exists. And so far, he's done nothing.

But, I'm asking YOU, because you are the one making the claim that nature isn't icky.

Yes. Mothers love their kids generally, some love their animals, and spouses, and God gives us sunshine and water and plants and life etc etc etc. Love exists.

Try getting lost in the middle of the desert with no water, no supplies and 200 miles from nowhere. See how much nature cares then, okay? You can believe in rescue all you want, if it makes you feel any better. And I bet you'll be saying, "They'll find me any moment now" right up to the instant you die.

Nature is hard and cruel. You just read into it what you want to see.

 

[szechuan]

And reality outweighs the Bible.

Indeed it does, it's a good thing that most kids who aren't home schooled are intelligent enough to realize that Atheism is not a belief nor is Evolution and Evolution just isn't a theory.

But of course Creation spreads more ignorance everyday polluting the minds of young children, mainly distorting history and facts.

 

[dad]

I almost envy your lack of personal experience with hardship.

The ability to see beauty sometimes comes through hardship.

 

[dad]

And reality outweighs the Bible.

Something cannot outweigh itself!

Funny, because so much of your posts are based on nothing at all, such as your different state past idea. have you EVER given evidence for that?

Yes. Do you seriously doubt that the bible indicates a different past nature? That is all I need. Since science can't say either way, who the hell cares what it says? It needs to know. It doesn't. How sweet it is!

God knows I'm open to anything he'd be willing to do to show me he exists. And so far, he's done nothing.

You see, your sentence started with 'God knows'! You are right. He does! He has your number. Stay tuned.

But, I'm asking YOU, because you are the one making the claim that nature isn't icky.

God told us all, and even I can read His answers!

Try getting lost in the middle of the desert with no water, no supplies and 200 miles from nowhere.

Moses been there done that!

See how much nature cares then, okay? You can believe in rescue all you want, if it makes you feel any better. And I bet you'll be saying, "They'll find me any moment now" right up to the instant you die.

We never die, we merely go to be with Him where He is when we have accepted His salvation in Christ! He defeated death. It cannot hold us now. He even called 'death' sleep! For believers, more like a power nap!

Nature is hard and cruel. You just read into it what you want to see.

Present state nature is hard and cruel as well as lovely and amazing! True eternal nature is all good.

 

[PsychoSarah]

The ability to see beauty sometimes comes through hardship.

The world must be pretty bland to you then.

 

[dad]

The world must be pretty bland to you then.

Probably not wise to presume to know someone we do not know.

 

[szechuan]

Probably not wise to presume to know someone we do not know.

Like Darwin, Dawkins, and Hawking.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Probably not wise to presume to know someone we do not know.

You truly do not seem to relate to hardship, whenever struggles of any kind are mentioned, you assume people are exaggerating.

 

[dad]

Like Darwin, Dawkins, and Hawking.

It is not the personalities, but their preachings that we look at, and they are garbage.

 

[dad]

You truly do not seem to relate to hardship, whenever struggles of any kind are mentioned, you assume people are exaggerating.

Communication issue.

 

[szechuan]

It is not the personalities, but their preachings that we look at, and they are garbage.

They aren't preaching, but debating and giving counter criticisms.
They clearly aren't garbage, they are some of the most intelligent men on earth.

 

[Kylie]

Something cannot outweigh itself!

And if the Bible was reality, then we'd have a problem. But the Bible isn't reality. It's a book made up of a collection of stories that were around a few thousand years ago.

Yes. Do you seriously doubt that the bible indicates a different past nature? That is all I need. Since science can't say either way, who the hell cares what it says? It needs to know. It doesn't. How sweet it is!

So? Aesop's fables indicates a different state past as well. Star Trek indicates a different state future? It doesn't mean it's real though.

You see, your sentence started with 'God knows'! You are right. He does! He has your number. Stay tuned.

Yeah, somehow I doubt he's gonna do anything. And for the same reason I've never experienced Darth Vader in my life.

God told us all, and even I can read His answers!

Don't confuse God and the Bible.

Moses been there done that!

He had no supplies, did he? So if I picked up up and plonked you down in the middle of the Simpson Desert in Australia with nothing but the clothes on your back, God would save your life?

We never die, we merely go to be with Him where He is when we have accepted His salvation in Christ! He defeated death. It cannot hold us now. He even called 'death' sleep! For believers, more like a power nap!

Nice sales pitch.

Present state nature is hard and cruel as well as lovely and amazing! True eternal nature is all good.

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

 

[biggles53]

They aren't preaching, but debating and giving counter criticisms.
They clearly aren't garbage, they are some of the most intelligent men on earth.

Aah, but dad can top that......he finished the 5th and the 6th grade..........!

 

[dad]

They aren't preaching, but debating and giving counter criticisms.
They clearly aren't garbage, they are some of the most intelligent men on earth.

Garbage and pure preaching and evil religion.

 

[dad]

And if the Bible was reality, then we'd have a problem. But the Bible isn't reality. It's a book made up of a collection of stories that were around a few thousand years ago.

It is reality, you have a problem.

So? Aesop's fables indicates a different state past as well. Star Trek indicates a different state future? It doesn't mean it's real though.

False. Star trek uses the present state. As for other fables, well, many of them at least include what science ignores religiously...the spiritual!

Yeah, somehow I doubt he's gonna do anything. And for the same reason I've never experienced Darth Vader in my life.

Doubts have no value.

Don't confuse God and the Bible.

Yes, we can. He gave it to man and it says the words are alive and spirit.

He had no supplies, did he? So if I picked up up and plonked you down in the middle of the Simpson Desert in Australia with nothing but the clothes on your back, God would save your life?

Yes. Either through ending the physical life, and taking me home, or by some miracle to save the body.

 

[biggles53]

It is reality, you have a problem.


False. Star trek uses the present state. As for other fables, well, many of them at least include what science ignores religiously...the spiritual!

Doubts have no value.

Yes, we can. He gave it to man and it says the words are alive and spirit.

Yes. Either through ending the physical life, and taking me home, or by some miracle to save the body.

Hahahahaha....! You really crack me up sometimes......if something good happens to you, it's god looking out for you....if something bad happens, it's because your fantasy man has a better plan for you....!

The classic creationist each-way bet....!

 

[Kylie]

It is reality, you have a problem.

No. A book of old stories is not reality, no matter how much you want it to be.

False. Star trek uses the present state. As for other fables, well, many of them at least include what science ignores religiously...the spiritual!

Yes, the present state, in which humans can interbreed with aliens and faster than light travel is possible. Yes, definitely fits perfectly with what we know about science.

Doubts have no value.

And God has done nothing to even hint to me that he exists.

Yes, we can. He gave it to man and it says the words are alive and spirit.

Oh! A holy text promises that it is the word of God, so therefore it must be!

But I can write that same thing on a napkin. Do you realise that something can claim that it is the word of God without actually BEING the word of God?

Yes. Either through ending the physical life, and taking me home, or by some miracle to save the body.

God would save your life by killing you.

Ya huh.

So if God kills you (a slow and horrible death, by the way, dying of exposure and dehydration), you'd come back in ghost form to let me know you were okay, would you?

 

[dad]

Hahahahaha....! You really crack me up sometimes......if something good happens to you, it's god looking out for you....if something bad happens, it's because your fantasy man has a better plan for you....!

The classic creationist each-way bet....!

ALL things work together for our good. Nothing can separate us from Jesus. Ever. In this world, judgment begins at the house of God. I take that to mean that He arranges our life events such as that we start learning things and maybe even suffering to some extent for some sins to learn lessons etc! Even the dark days are for a reason. His judgments are pure and righteous altogether, and seasoned with mercy. More to be desired are they than gold. Our trials and testings are all for a reason, and for our good.

Death has no sting for believers. It is but a small step on our glorious way through eternity!

So whether He knows it is best for us to stay here for a while longer, or go on to a better place, there are real reasons, and He knows what is really best for us.

We can't lose for winning!

Come on over to the wonderful side.