Questions about iconography...

AlwaysForget · Oct 10, 2013

Question 1:
I have heard that if icon (mounted print or the original one) gets damaged beyond repair you are suppose to burn it and spread ashes over the water. Is it correct?
What if the varnish is toxic? or I don't have a place to burn it?

Question 2:
What about electronic images? If I'm deleting an image of an icon from my HD am I destroying it sort of the same way the shredder does when destroying icon paper print?

Question 3:
I've heard of a few myrrh-weeping icons that are actually prints mounted on the board.
We move more & more toward digital images.
If the image of the icon is displayed in the digital frame can it be venerated the same way as the printed images?

Steinbeck · Oct 11, 2013

Digital images of icons are not like even a printed .jpg file because, I guess, the digital file is not, how to say, material. We don't venerate computer screens. We don't put up LCD iconostases. There is a greater value, I think, in the icon that is lovingly made by hand--whether it be painted or a printed photo glued to a board.

Hrodrich · Dec 2, 2013

The last post, by Steinbeck made me wonder. Is it acceptable, if one has absolutely no money to spend (like myself), to print off an icon and decoupage it onto a board?

Thanks.

ArmyMatt · Dec 2, 2013

Hrodrich said:
The last post, by Steinbeck made me wonder. Is it acceptable, if one has absolutely no money to spend (like myself), to print off an icon and decoupage it onto a board?

Thanks.

since God knows the heart, I would say that would be okay. I know I have some prints from icons on my corner.

gurneyhalleck1 · Jan 6, 2014

Gurney says "Is Outrage!"

ArmyMatt said:
I have some prints from icons on my corner.

ArmyMatt · Jan 7, 2014

gurneyhalleck1 said:
Gurney says "Is Outrage!"

the Hawaiian Iveron icon is a print, and it streams myrrh.

YOU IS OUTRAGE!

Euthymios · Apr 24, 2014

I don't care for western art.

MayDay3 · May 19, 2014

Michael G said:
Painted. Don't get me started on how difficult that translation is and how misunderstood it is by the general Orthodox world.

As for the style, it looks like a rather generic Russian style.

Looks more Coptic to me, but I'm no Iconography expert.

Shieldmaiden4Christ · Sep 25, 2015

Thoughts on first icons to get?

ikonographics · Sep 25, 2015

Shieldmaiden4Christ said:
Thoughts on first icons to get?

Christ and the Theotokos are a must then you can add your patron saint and any other saints you love

Shieldmaiden4Christ · Sep 25, 2015

ikonographics said:
Christ and the Theotokos are a must then you can add your patron saint and any other saints you love

Thanks! That's what I figured!

MrJim · Sep 25, 2015

just sayin' got a new icon from Mike today and it's very nice...

ArmyMatt · Sep 25, 2015

Shieldmaiden4Christ said:
Thoughts on first icons to get?

The Rublev icon of the Holy Trinity

Shieldmaiden4Christ · Sep 25, 2015

ArmyMatt said:
The Rublev icon of the Holy Trinity

Huh, that is a beautiful one (especially in terms of symbolism and metaphor.)

ArmyMatt · Sep 26, 2015

Shieldmaiden4Christ said:
Huh, that is a beautiful one (especially in terms of symbolism and metaphor.)

durn tootin

Dewi Sant · Oct 23, 2015

Steinbeck said:
Digital images of icons are not like even a printed .jpg file because, I guess, the digital file is not, how to say, material. We don't venerate computer screens. We don't put up LCD iconostases. There is a greater value, I think, in the icon that is lovingly made by hand--whether it be painted or a printed photo glued to a board.

There have been times when my cell phone has served as portable icon, so in that sense it has been venerated
An act of violence against a screen depicting an icon would be much the same as one toward an icon made of wood and paint.
The physical materials of painted/written icons are a vehicle for the depiction and for as long as the image can be discerned it should be honoured.

Apologies if this seems facetious.

Every sacred image we encounter is holy in its presence.

ikonographics · Oct 24, 2015

The icon is not the wood or the paint. According to the Father's and in particular St Theodore the Studite, the icon is the form of the person depticted, so no matter if it is on wood or on a screen, no matter what technique is used to paint it, the form of Christ (or the saints) is the icon.

AMM · May 18, 2017

Who are these saints on the left and right of the Pantocrator? Picked this print up at a thrift shop the other day, but I don't read Cyrillic.

Also, question about veneration -- I live in a dorm room most of the year, but I started to create a small icon corner to do my daily prayers. Only thing is that I'm not allowed to have an actual candle in the dorms, so is it acceptable to use electric votive candles, or should I use no candles, or...?

ArmyMatt · May 18, 2017

while I can't read the Cyrillic, I can answer your question and say, yes, you can use electric candles if it helps you pray

nutroll · May 18, 2017

It's hard to make out for sure from the picture, but it appears to be Alexander Nevsky on the left ( he took the monastic Schema just before his death) and his son Daniil of Moscow on the right and Jesus Christ, Lord Almighty in the center.

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