Question about the 1000 year reign - rapture

[sk8brdkd]

I attended a small group on Thursday and the topic was Antichrist and end times.

The leader explained something I never heard about before yet I’ve grown up hearing something different. He was explaining how during the rapture, Christians go with God and he casts Satan away. Then we come back with God on white horses and come back to “earth”, for 1000 years. God releases Satan where he’s allowed to try and deceive us again. And those Christians who he’s able to deceive will be cast out and the ones who remain will then go to the new earth that is described in the Bible.

But... I have never heard before that After we die or are raptured, that Satan would be allowed to have another go at us? I always thought/believed that once we die and if we accepted Christ into our hearts, that was it. That we would then be in heaven with God forever. So, is it really true that after we die, we’ll be subjected to Satan’s deceitfulness for another 1000 years and that God would cast us out then if any choose to be deceived by Satan?

 

[LivingWordUnity]

The 1000 years is the time of the Church. 1000 symbolically represents perfection. The time when the devil is loosed for a relatively short time is the time of rebellion and the Antichrist (see 2 Thess 2).

The Christians who have died and gone to Heaven can't be harmed by the devil. At the time of the Second Coming, the faithful will be resurrected, Jesus will judge everyone, and He will reign forever.

 

[miamited]

I attended a small group on Thursday and the topic was Antichrist and end times.

The leader explained something I never heard about before yet I’ve grown up hearing something different. He was explaining how during the rapture, Christians go with God and he casts Satan away. Then we come back with God on white horses and come back to “earth”, for 1000 years. God releases Satan where he’s allowed to try and deceive us again. And those Christians who he’s able to deceive will be cast out and the ones who remain will then go to the new earth that is described in the Bible.

But... I have never heard before that After we die or are raptured, that Satan would be allowed to have another go at us? I always thought/believed that once we die and if we accepted Christ into our hearts, that was it. That we would then be in heaven with God forever. So, is it really true that after we die, we’ll be subjected to Satan’s deceitfulness for another 1000 years and that God would cast us out then if any choose to be deceived by Satan?

Hi sk,

Well, not exactly. There will be a rapture and as it is explained in the Scriptures both those who are alive at the time of the rapture who are God's children and those who have died previously who are God's children will be raised from their graves.

Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality

For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage one another with these words.

There will be a 1000 year reign of the Lord in which Satan will be bound. After that Satan will be loosed once more for a time. Whether it's 1000 years or not isn't known. The Scriptures only refer to the length of time as a 'short' time. So, during the 1000 year reign the believers are safe, but after that there does appear to be one more cleansing or refinement. Then we get to the day of God's judgment in which Jesus tells us that many christians will be turned away.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

 

[Saucy]

I attended a small group on Thursday and the topic was Antichrist and end times.

The leader explained something I never heard about before yet I’ve grown up hearing something different. He was explaining how during the rapture, Christians go with God and he casts Satan away. Then we come back with God on white horses and come back to “earth”, for 1000 years. God releases Satan where he’s allowed to try and deceive us again. And those Christians who he’s able to deceive will be cast out and the ones who remain will then go to the new earth that is described in the Bible.

But... I have never heard before that After we die or are raptured, that Satan would be allowed to have another go at us? I always thought/believed that once we die and if we accepted Christ into our hearts, that was it. That we would then be in heaven with God forever. So, is it really true that after we die, we’ll be subjected to Satan’s deceitfulness for another 1000 years and that God would cast us out then if any choose to be deceived by Satan?

There are a few Christians who don't believe in the rapture. They think it refers to after the Tribulation, but a lot of Christians like myself believe it will happen before the tribulation. But after the 7 year tribulation, we will be with Jesus in New Jerusalem, which is a massive city that will come down to earth. The bible just mentions that some people will still be defiant to God, so after 1,000 years living in this city, Satan will be released from his prison and then God will send Satan and the rest to the lake of fire for eternity. It's just one last shot to get the remaining defilers away.

 

[Radagast]

I attended a small group on Thursday and the topic was Antichrist and end times.

Not everybody believes in a "rapture," and some people think the "thousand years" is symbolic for the period that we live in now.

But everyone agrees that "When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore." (Revelation 20:7-8)

 

[akaDaScribe]

I haven't spent the amount of time many people spent studying Revelation, but I was always left with the impression that Jesus returns, the opposing armies are wiped out, Then Christ reigns with the Christians who were martyred in the tribulation and those who made it through the tribulation for 1000 years.

Then Satan is released and gathers the people of the earth who made it through the tribulation but were not saved to wage war against Jesus. And they get wiped out quickly.

I don't remember anything about the saints being in a position to lose their salvation during that 1000 years. Maybe ordinary people who live and die during that time still have to make a choice, but I thought the saints would already have spiritual bodies by then.

Then, after that 1000 years comes final judgement.
I've never heard of the saved becoming unsaved after being transformed.

 

[Radagast]

I thought the saints would already have spiritual bodies by then

The 1000 years is pre-heaven. I don't think anyone teaches that there are spiritual bodies by then, do they?

 

[akaDaScribe]

The 1000 years is pre-heaven. I don't think anyone teaches that there are spiritual bodies by then, do they?

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Guess I just assumed that there would have to be something different about them if they were already dead, but here during the 1000 year reign. I guess the saints who made it through the tribulation could be walking around for 1000 years, but that sounds more like punishment if they are stuck in their current state.

 

[Jonathan OShea]

I attended a small group on Thursday and the topic was Antichrist and end times.

The leader explained something I never heard about before yet I’ve grown up hearing something different. He was explaining how during the rapture, Christians go with God and he casts Satan away. Then we come back with God on white horses and come back to “earth”, for 1000 years. God releases Satan where he’s allowed to try and deceive us again. And those Christians who he’s able to deceive will be cast out and the ones who remain will then go to the new earth that is described in the Bible.

But... I have never heard before that After we die or are raptured, that Satan would be allowed to have another go at us? I always thought/believed that once we die and if we accepted Christ into our hearts, that was it. That we would then be in heaven with God forever. So, is it really true that after we die, we’ll be subjected to Satan’s deceitfulness for another 1000 years and that God would cast us out then if any choose to be deceived by Satan?

The scriptures never say anything remotely close to that. Precept must be upon precept and line upon line. What we clearly read in the Word is that there are advents of Christ. One at his birth and one for his final return of all people.

 

[Jonathan OShea]

The scriptures never say anything remotely close to that. Precept must be upon precept and line upon line. What we clearly read in the Word is that there are advents of Christ. One at his birth and one for his final return of all people.

We must remember that Revelation is a book of signs as it states in the 1st chapter.

 

[Radagast]

We must remember that Revelation is a book of signs as it states in the 1st chapter.

Actually, Revelation 1 doesn't even mention the word "signs."

 

[Jonathan OShea]

Yes it doesn't use the word signs (my bad) but it explains in verse 20 that it is a book of symbols by showing how the different objects represent different things in the church and actually the whole Bible explains Revelation in that manner.

Actually, Revelation 1 doesn't even mention the word "signs."

 

[Jonathan OShea]

It is not to be taken literally but symbolically.

 

[Radagast]

but it explains in verse 20 that it is a book of symbols

Yes, you can probably infer from that verse that the rest of the book will use symbolic language.

A good reason to be cautious about interpreting it.

 

[Radagast]

Guess I just assumed that there would have to be something different about them if they were already dead, but here during the 1000 year reign. I guess the saints who made it through the tribulation could be walking around for 1000 years, but that sounds more like punishment if they are stuck in their current state.

But if you believe in a "rapture" followed by a literal 1000 years, then the raptured people are not dead.

One of the many problems I've always had with the idea of a literal 1000 year reign is that it seems so pointless.

 

[akaDaScribe]

But if you believe in a "rapture" followed by a literal 1000 years, then the raptured people are not dead.

One of the many problems I've always had with the idea of a literal 1000 year reign is that it seems so pointless.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense, but it wouldn't be the first time I had to scratch my head over something in the Bible. lol

 

[Hank77]

So, is it really true that after we die, we’ll be subjected to Satan’s deceitfulness for another 1000 years and that God would cast us out then if any choose to be deceived by Satan?

No, that's not true.

 

[FIRESTORM314]

I attended a small group on Thursday and the topic was Antichrist and end times.

It's not a subject I think is normally discussed in a home group or church setting.

Going through the reply's on this thread and other similar threads it seems very few people actually know what they are talking about with any certainty. Who really has understanding ?

I hope the leader expressed his views may or not be correct rather than teach it as truth and accurate.

I think there's plenty of other subjects that one can focus on in an home group setting. I'd be disappointed if myself or my children where subject to that sort of content.

 

[akaDaScribe]

It's not a subject I think is normally discussed in a home group or church setting.

Going through the reply's on this thread and other similar threads it seems very few people actually know what they are talking about with any certainty. Who really has understanding ?

I hope the leader expressed his views may or not be correct rather than teach it as truth and accurate.

I think there's plenty of other subjects that one can focus on in an home group setting. I'd be disappointed if myself or my children where subject to that sort of content.

Yeah, it seems like every few years people see thins differently when it comes to te book of Revelation. It's one of those things you have to get really hard core into. I personally concluded that whether this is the lasts days or not, it's still my last days.

So I try to focus more on how to be rather than worrying about the future too much. But it is important to at least know what it says.

I think this forum would probably be a better place to get an answer.

Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum

 

[FIRESTORM314]

Yeah, it seems like every few years people see thins differently when it comes to te book of Revelation. It's one of those things you have to get really hard core into. I personally concluded that whether this is the lasts days or not, it's still my last days.

So I try to focus more on how to be rather than worrying about the future too much. But it is important to at least know what it says.

I think this forum would probably be a better place to get an answer.

Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum

Good Answer

As far as hard core - my advice would be to do what Daniel, Ezekiel and John did. Pray and Fast for the answer and Revelation. You never know - you may get taken up a very high mountain and get a good view from there. Any ideas where that mountain is?