Public Apology from Erwin

I'ddie4him · Jun 11, 2005

Whatever Erwin decides to do is going to have to be discussed with staff first to find an equitable solution that is fair and consistent for all. I am reasonably sure that the recent happenings will be taken into consideration and I back Erwin on this endeavour. I had the pleasure of being on staff for 2 years and He is an extemely fair man. If he sees an injustice, He bends over backwards to try to fix it.

I am still quite distressed by the recent comments about staff and their actions. I still feel that this was gone about in entirely the wrong manner. If something is wrong, I go to the source. If that fails, I go to the next level. I truly think this could have been handled with a bit more finesse and diplomacy. The way that things were addressed IMHO could have been done a bit more privately. The jabs, and insults, and derision of staff was inexcusable.

I am not judging anyone, This is not meant in that manner.

Erwin has spent TONS of his own money to keep this place going and has put in more hours here than any human should have to do. This is his baby and I appreciate so much all he has done to keep CF open for all of us.

Erwin, Whatever the time frame is for the revamping of CF, I eagerly await the changes. God speed and Get some sleep.

hopper · Jun 11, 2005

I was away, but had to return when I caught wind of what is happening here. An official apology thread from the top down is the best addition to CF I've seen since joining up from another Christian forum gone bad about 10 months ago now. As one who continues to pray for this site, I wish to express my deep gratitude for what is taking place here. In an age of communication marvels, Christians ought to always lead the way in communication ideals and commitments to excellence in our relationships.
THANK YOU, STAFF OF CF,
for your dedication to reconciliation and humble integrity in such a diversified community.

-hopper

Veritas · Jun 11, 2005

Thanks Erwin!

SKY80 · Jun 11, 2005

http://www.christianforums.com/t1608471-warning-expiration.html

I like wha this moderator is doing..I think it would be a great way to start over..Why not have a amnesty day and let people start a new. Erwin, I am new here and it looks like i joined during a very "fluid" period of Cf but I thank you for all that you have done and continue to do as well as sharing your love.

HeatherJay · Jun 11, 2005

I'm sorry for any role I might have had in the problems CF is experiencing. I hope that Erwin's new proposals will be a way to mend some fences and bring us all back into the peace and harmony that has always been the goal of this site.

The Julikenz · Jun 12, 2005

I would like to take this opportunity to thank each one of you who has graciously accepted the apologies and confessions made by Erwin & staff, your hearts be blessed!! Your forgiveness is very humbling to us. I also would like to offer my most sincere apologies on behalf of the body of Christ, that if I or anyone on the Christian Forums staff have wronged any of you, even what might be seen as the least of you, we have wronged our Lord! Therefore i extend my humbly apology to you, my Brothers and Sisters, and i pray this reformation will continue to show you the repentance of any wrong ways we have practiced against you. Thankyou Erwin for your words on behalf of this body, a Great Man of Christ you are!

I also hope, this will be considered a step towards reaching a reconcilliation with all members. Nothing is ever too small for an apology, and I am not here to serve myself, but rather; you, dear friends.

Rochir · Jun 12, 2005

I'ddie4him said:
Whatever Erwin decides to do is going to have to be discussed with staff first

Really? my understanding was that dr Loh is the webmaster of this site, the owner and creator. He doesn't need approval from anyone to change whatever he wishes! if he does aks staff for opinion it will be because he is a curteous and fair man, not because he HAS TO!

costlygrace · Jun 12, 2005

Thank you so much, Erwin, for your Christ-like love, humility, and courage, in which your apology was made to those who have been hurt by the unloving actions of staff members--it is beautiful to see!!! I do not recall having ever experienced a heavy-handed moderator here, but I know of people who have--and it is wonderful to see that their voice has heard by you, and that you are going to be taking steps to make Christian Forums a more loving place!

The whole purpose of the forum, just like any other meeting place for members Christ's Body, is love, encouragement, serving and building up one another, and it is SO important that it stay according to its God-given purpose, on the sides of both the moderators and the regular members.

We all must be on here only to serve and build up one another the way Jesus did while on earth--even if we are not mods! It is the only right way to treat our brothers and sisters, whom God loves as much as us, and who each have their own struggles and hardships in life and need our help and encouragement to brighten their day even when we don't feel brightened!!! And even if something is the truth it is wrong to speak it in a hurtful way--we must never compromise truth, but we must just as much never compromise love.

I have been convicted of times before when I have not responded in love to my brothers and sisters here, and that is always a sin against God for which there is never a valid excuse. If any one of you reads this who has felt hurt by me in the past and has not received an apology, please PM me because you are entitled to one (please do not hesitate). If you felt hurt by me it is my fault not yours.

Thank you again, Erwin, and my prayers are with you as you continue to build up the Body of Christ as you are doing!

In Christ,
costlygrace

costlygrace · Jun 12, 2005

I also would like to say "Thank you so much!!!!" to each of the mods here who posted a heartfelt apology. Your humility and servant's heart is wonderful to see, and is a blessing to this forum!

May God bless you, keep you, and guide you as you serve Him here!
costlygrace

D'Ann · Jun 12, 2005

Erwin said:
Hi

It has come to my attention that some moderators have been particularly heavy-handed in their moderation and acting outside of our moderating guidelines.

For example, some posts or threads have been deleted when they do not break our rules. Deleting of posts and threads are the LAST resort.

We have over 100 staff so you can understand that keeping track is difficult.

Obviously we have fallen short of providing proper training.

For the members who have been affected, accept my direct and personal apology.

We are dealing with staff training at the moment.

Also, I agree that we have TOO MANY forum rules.

As part of the reforms I am proposing we will be consolidating this.

As discussed, the reforms will be introduced ideally by early next month.

Thanks for your patience.

Wow... thank you.

I appreciate CF very much.

God's Peace,

Debbie

p.s. Chris robot is a riot... LOL I mean this in a very nice and good way.

I'ddie4him · Jun 12, 2005

Rochir said:
Really? my understanding was that dr Loh is the webmaster of this site, the owner and creator. He doesn't need approval from anyone to change whatever he wishes! if he does aks staff for opinion it will be because he is a curteous and fair man, not because he HAS TO!

It is right that he do so, Since they will be affected by the changes. I am discontinuing the discussion from here on. Bye.

Rochir · Jun 12, 2005

I'ddie4him said:
Bye.

Byeee!

LibertyChic · Jun 12, 2005

Thank you Erwin, for taking the time to look into and fix this.

Debi1967 · Jun 13, 2005

Thank you Erwin for looking into the issues that have come to your attention it is much appreciated....

Lovingly in Christ
Debi

feo · Jun 13, 2005

So I wonder if all my un-official warnings in the past were "fair" or not. If not I guess I'm not hardcore as I thought I was...

MrsGnomeCrusher · Jun 13, 2005

Thank you for addressing this issue!

Gwenyfur · Jun 13, 2005

Thank you Erwin....
I've said it before...I'll say it again...
You're a God-send

Plan 9 · Jun 13, 2005

Thank you, Erwin!

To all the staff members here who have also so far apologized: all who you who have are folks who've done your best for me, whether I always agreed with you, or not, so you have always done everything for me, and more, than I could ask for! From my point of view, your apologies are as unecessary as Erwin's.

Plan 9 · Jun 13, 2005

Texmex's friend said:
the strict mods i liked ..the lazy mods are not much use

Partner, how is it that you know who the "lazy" mods are, and, while you're at it, please define "strict"?

Plan 9 · Jun 13, 2005

Texmex's friend said:
the Old way was best....the Majority Ruled....its sad when a good thing is replaced
the mods need to be able to do their Job without so many restrictions, they need to be strict, more so than ever before

The old way was best? How long have you been a member here?
Why should the majority rule, and when did they rule here?
More strict than ever before? In what ways?
What restrictions would you like to see removed?

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