Prophetic Words saying TRUMP will be President

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I never said it didn't. What I am saying is that things have accelerated under this administration, from debt and joblessness to the rise of ISIS and a quickening decay in America's moral foundation. America has always had its problems but we were quick to learn and change course; now we willingly embrace socialism, celebrate lifestyles that God defines as sinful and continue to become more divided among class, race, gender and politics. I don't think it's any accident that these have all become more widespread over the past seven years.

If you want to make excuses for it then that's your prerogative. I believe our president helps set a tone for the country and that tone is now one of suspicion and division.
I don't have to make excuses. What you want me to say what you already know? Obama sucks at his job? Give me a break. The guy didn't know what he was getting into plain and simple. You are part of the problem as you one of those folks who think the president is the singular cause of all America's sorrows and pain. If you want to live in that fantasy world go ahead, but quit spreading your lying rhetoric to the rest of America, don't try to feed me your supposed truth. It isn't just Obama. You can ignore it al you want because once your scape goat runs of into the desert in 2017 who will you have to blame then when all these problems still persist? What will you do next? Oh let me guess blame the "liberal democrats" in congress? There is no single cause of any social problem, other than the permeating problem of sin, but we aren't here to discuss theology. Obama is not the sole cause of these problems. Get your head out of your fourth point of contact.
 
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Have these prophets been like.. named? I think people are asking for some names for these folks. Are they a bunch of locals at your church or something?

[side note predicting the future is one of the minor details of being a prophet of God]
 
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Have these prophets been like.. named? I think people are asking for some names for these folks. Are they a bunch of locals at your church or something?

[side note predicting the future is one of the minor details of being a prophet of God]

This is what I thought. It surprises me just how ready some people are to hear something they want to hear and the ability to promote that to being something more profound than it is.
 
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Nope. The last global recession ended in 2009.
I should backtrack on my use of that word, I agree. It's worldwide economic stagnation that we're into now. Otherwise, I stand behind what I wrote before. I know Al Sharpton and the White House Press Secretary say that we're into the best times ever, but most people and all economists except the ones they own know that the administration's figures are phony--like the alleged 5% unemployment rate.

If you work one hour a month or if you're a civil engineer reduced to burger flipping or if you've gone on disability because you can't find a job anywhere--you're not counted among the unemployed by this political crowd. Don't you be another 'yes man' for this crowd yourself. It's too serious an issue.
 
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I don't think it's quite as pronounced in Sanders as it is in Trump .

That's probably true, but it's something like discussing how black the coal is. Hmm. Anthracite or Bituminous?

They're all egocentric or they wouldn't be in this field. And the incumbent has already set all the records for that kind of personality, so why waste time thinking we have a shot at electing St. Francis of Assisi in 2016?
 
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Hillary maybe. But Bernie? What? He comes across as the most selfless and humble person in the whole race.
I have no idea why you'd say that. But I suppose there are fans of Donald Trump who would say it of him, too. After all, he's sacrificing reputation and his own money in order, apparently, to help the country. Bernie, on the other hand, is a lifetime politician who's just doing what he always does, except perhaps that he's now getting to strut on the big stage for a change, having been a rather unheralded member of Congress from a tiny state previously. Why that counts as "selfless" I admit I don't know.
 
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God uses the meek not the boisterous.
God uses whoever He wants
But our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases - Ps 115:3

If God doesn't use the boisterous, how do you explain Elijah's mocking and jeering?
It came about at noon, that Elijah mocked them and said, "Call out with a loud voice, for he is a god; either he is occupied or gone aside, or is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and needs to be awakened." - 1 Kings 18:27

If God doesn't use the boisterous then how do you explain Jesus making a WHIP and turning over tables in 'church'? Do you think He politely and meekly said, "um please move out of the way so I can tip these tables over"..?
I'm not saying Jesus had pride here, I'm disproving your theory that God doesn't use boisterous behavior.


excuse me. Counting his kingdom. There is an entire book in the Bible about counting
Satan stood up against Israel and moved David to number Israel - 1 Chron 21:1
It couldn't be any clearer, friend.


He didn't have the mannerisms of one either which is why he submitted to Saul after he both was ordained as the next king and also after killing a giant that no one else in the country could.
Yes! - David was in the process of being humbled, but he still fell into sin and ALL sin is rooted in pride. Any time we satisfy the lusts of the flesh it's about self. Putting SELF first is pride. David had pride and put himself before God each time he fell into sin.


He also didn't kill Saul when he had the chance. Does that sound like a prideful person?
Just because a person does the right thing and passes one of God's tests does not mean they're free from pride. ALL sin is rooted in pride.


I'd like to see where this came from.
You aren't familiar with the fact the Apostle Paul was prideful?
Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. - 2 Cor 12:7
Conceit = pride


He didn't call Jesus a liar. Stop being so over dramatic. He, like all of us have done expected too much from himself and was proven wrong.
When you tell someone what they're saying isn't true, you're calling them a LIAR. We do the exact same thing today. Each time you refuse to believe God, you're calling Him a big fat liar.
Stop watering down the Word of God.


This can not be chalked up as pride because a proud person would have not followed Jesus in the first place.
Really..
JUDAS was following Jesus too, remember?
And satan LIVED IN GLORY with God before pride overtook him.
What you don't seem to understand is that ALL sin has pride at the root of it.


No Moses was filled with anger and killed that person for mistreating his countrymen.
ALL sin has pride at the root of it. What Moses did was not righteous, therefore it was sin, and ALL sin is rooted in pride.


No. Saul was afraid of the masses and did what they wanted instead of what God wanted.
That's not scriptural. He did what he wanted because he was full of self importance and pride - That's why he spared the life of Agag and kept the best animals alive after GOD instructed him to kill them - Read it for yourself
But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them - 1 Sam 15:9


If you want to use the bible to justify your ideals then we have reached the end of our discussion here and I will will go my way in this.
I'm using the bible to prove what is TRUE, that's what we're supposed to do. I've taken nothing out of context, I'm proving what is right and true according to God's Word which does not lie.


Only God knows what's in a persons heart.
That, my friend, is exactly my point - You need to stop judging people from the exterior.
That includes your judgements on Donald Trump.
If God wants to use Trump as president, it doesn't matter what you think about his ego. The other candidates just know how to hide theirs. God can use whomsoever He pleases.


You can say what you want. you've done so consistently since this post started.
What's your point? - You also "say what you want".
That's what people do in debates. They present their points.


Good has historically used those who are meek to do hid work and none of that work has failed. Cherry picking Scripture will not win you anything either.
God used a non believing King called "Cyrus the Great" (hardly humble) to liberate Israel.
God used the pagan nation of Assyria to punish Israel.
All of God's people had some form of pride.
God uses people in SPITE of themselves and prepares them along the way.
ALL sin is rooted in pride.
Any time we satisfy the lusts of the flesh it's about self and SELF is pride.
All God's people had pride problems along the way.
 
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you're not the sort of person who should be giving to charity
Tell that to the Lord as it was He who instructed me to give money even though I was in need.
Even David said he would not give anything to God unless it cost him something:
I will not offer burnt offerings to the LORD my God which cost me nothing - 2 Sam 24:24
God often requires people to give out of their poverty. Remember the widow who gave the last of her food to Elija in 1 Kings 17:7-16 ?
 
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Tell that to the Lord as it was He who instructed me to give money even though I was in need.

That money was supposed to go to me. You must've misunderstood what the Lord said. Please rectify that.:wave:
 
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This is what I thought. It surprises me just how ready some people are to hear something they want to hear and the ability to promote that to being something more profound than it is.

I couldn't help but laugh a little when I read your post above.
Is there anywhere in this entire thread where I said my personal desire is for Trump to be president?
No, there's not.
This thread is not about me wanting Trump for president. It's about me saying God can use whoever He so chooses, and if that happens to be Trump then so be it.

If you reread the OP you will see I mentioned hearing 2 prophetic words about Trump becoming president.
And then I asked if anyone has heard similar.
That's all.

I didn't say I believed the words, I only asked if others heard similar.
I didn't say I want Trump for president.
I didn't 'promote' anyone.
I have never said that I "want" those words to be true.
In light of these facts, you should be able to see how you've jumped to amazing conclusions.

I will repeat however, that God can and will use Trump for His purposes if He so pleases and desires. No one can tell God who He can or can't use. The Lord has this funny idea that's HE is God, and I don't think He's too concerned about people's opinions.
 
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I couldn't help but laugh a little when I read your post above.
Is there anywhere in this entire thread where I said my personal desire is for Trump to be president?
No, there's not.
This thread is not about me wanting Trump for president. It's about me saying God can use whoever He so chooses, and if that happens to be Trump then so be it.

If you reread the OP you will see I mentioned hearing 2 prophetic words about Trump becoming president.
And then I asked if anyone has heard similar.
That's all.

I didn't say I believed the words, I only asked if others heard similar.
I didn't say I want Trump for president.
I didn't 'promote' anyone.
I have never said that I "want" those words to be true.
In light of these facts, you should be able to see how you've jumped to amazing conclusions.

I will repeat however, that God can and will use Trump for His purposes if He so pleases and desires. No one can tell God who He can or can't use. The Lord has this funny idea that's HE is God, and I don't think He's too concerned about people's opinions.

I'm not seeing the Discussion or the Debate here. You say that these prophetic words are not the point of your OP, so that leaves us with No one can tell God who He can or can't use, which isn't really something that can be debated or discussed outside of "Amen! Preach it!" If there is a God (not the point of your thread or of this forum), and if He is concerned at all with American politics (also not the point), there's not much else to talk about.

The problems you've had with this thread are because you stuck it in the wrong forum.
 
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Trump doesn't seem like a Christian in how he acts, talk, or lives, but...God has also used the unfaithful Babylon and Assyria for His instruments. soo... perhaps God means to destroy America for all the sins we commit on a daily basis, or maybe God doesn't focus on single countries and ignores the rest like most Americans arrogantly believe for some reason.
It would not be the first time that God used an ass to get somebody's attention...pun intended.

It would also not be the first time that the jaw bone of an ass was used to subdue those God wanted subdued...pun intended.
 
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I refer both of you to the 2 posts below - These questions have already been covered:
1. Prophetic Words saying TRUMP will be President
2. Prophetic Words saying TRUMP will be President
Those don't answer the question, because they no not label these mysterious 2 sources the op claims. I prefer to test the spirits first. Joseph Smith and Muhammad
also "received a vision." We want names. We want sources, because we are tired of our faith being ridiculed with snake charmers and fire walkers. Some of us want our faith to be the humble walk with Christ that it began as.
 
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