Prophetic Words saying TRUMP will be President

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It doesn't matter where the Words came from, that's not the topic.
I simply asked a question in the OP.
It is quite easily discerned that there are some here who's sole desire is to dissect and rip to shreds whoever gave the prophetic words .
I'm not playing into it. :)
If you look at the Bible, every person who God choose to do his will was meek and mild. Moses, King David, Saul, ect all had a mild spirit. Moses even had to have Arron to back him up when speaking to Pharaoh. I can't for the life of me remember anyone who God choose that was bombastic. That is the answer to the question I assume that you asked. I could not really see one, but If that doesn't suffice you can clarify the question you want answered.
 
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Yes, I have predicted that Trump will be the next rider of the pale horse. And I have also said what God will use him for exactly. He will lead a 24-nation coalition in dropping "exceedingly great hail" on the latest face of the 7th head of Satan. And I have also predicted that this year a 24th Christian nation will be added to the coalition called NATO, completing the picture.Satan will be so soundly defeated that He wont be heard from again for a millennial.
I can't see God even coming near trump.
 
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How is it you propose to know Trump's motives for running??
I surmised as such considering just how much of an egotist he comes off as. I assume he loves America only in so far as selling bits of it has made him wealthy.

Let's see now... Do you have character flaws?
Can God use you in spite of your character flaws and wrong beliefs?
Learning to not be too serious about things we have no control over keeps us from stress related illnesses.
Laugh a little.
Yes, I have character flaws. I don't aim to speak in so far as who God uses for what, I simply assume it has a lot to do with the poor. I don't think that being egotistic is a funny trait for someone running for public office, it's a particular type of character flaw shared by narcissists.

Go ahead.
If those are your main objectives why do you come here and spend time arguing and debating?
Shouldn't you be out helping the homeless and doing all the things you say "we" should be doing?
God instructs "us" to do a lot of things, so while your reply sounds sweet, I'm not convinced it's completely altruistic at the root.
So when someone tells you that feeding the hungry and clothing the naked is part of what God wants you get all defensive and tell them to shut up and go do those things? Also, I don't care if people feed the hungry out of altruism or spite, I care that they feed the hungry.
 
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And you don't think Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton suffer from the same character flaw (and probably some of the other Republican contenders as well)?
Which is why I think that God will bypass these people, if he ever does choose someone.
 
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And you don't think Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton suffer from the same character flaw (and probably some of the other Republican contenders as well)?
I don't think it's quite as pronounced in Sanders as it is in Trump and it seems to me that Clinton is entitled which I find frustrating. Sanders seems the most honest he's running his platform on small donations rather than large sponsorships which as far as I understand was the point of public office.
 
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So we have a Marxist advocating a Christian theocracy for the USA and criticizing Trump for not being on board. That's the only way his comment would make sense unless it was just something to throw at Trump.
Is personal attacks necessary?
 
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I've now heard 2 prophetic words from different sources saying TRUMP will win presidency in order to accomplish God's will.
Has anyone else heard similar?

God can use whoever He wants to accomplish His will, and He does like to use 'foolish things' to confound the wise.
It's just hard to believe sometimes that God would want someone so prideful and full of himself as president. lol.

That being said, if Trump does win, we don't know what God wants to use him for exactly.

Anyone would be better than Hillary!
There is no "prophecy" in the sense of fortune-telling in today's age. All such "prophets" are soothsayers or fortune tellers and I wouldn't listen to them, there is likely witchcraft involved.
 
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And you don't think Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton suffer from the same character flaw (and probably some of the other Republican contenders as well)?
Hillary maybe. But Bernie? What? He comes across as the most selfless and humble person in the whole race.
 
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It doesn't matter where the Words came from, that's not the topic.
I simply asked a question in the OP.
It is quite easily discerned that there are some here who's sole desire is to dissect and rip to shreds whoever gave the prophetic words .
I'm not playing into it. :)

That wouldn't be because you gave the prophetic words, would it?
 
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EG, I know what you're speaking of. Here's how I feel: What you're seeing unfold politically, which is permeating the media, is one of possibly two things:

1) God will use Trump to bring judgment upon the leadership of our nation. There is Biblical precedent for this. Consider the Book of Daniel and the Babylonian leaders and how God dealt with them after His people humbled themselves during the exile.

2) God is allowing an even greater level of judgment to unfold for our nation as a whole, and God is allowing the devil to use Trump as a means to deceive the masses. In other words, more of the same, but worse.

How do we know which for sure? The only way to know for sure is to know whether or not the hearts of the people of our nation are turning back to God. Certainly, they are clearly frustrated with what's been happening politically, but has it been enough for God to relent and break forth to smite the leaders that have arisen?

I don't know yet. God may reveal this, or time will tell.
 
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I can't see God even coming near trump.
I'm sure the same was said about David. David was a pretty bold fellow, in case you haven't studied his character.
The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart" 1 Sam 16:7
SURPRISE!
 
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So when someone tells you that feeding the hungry and clothing the naked is part of what God wants you get all defensive and tell them to shut up and go do those things?
I'm sorry, did I come off somehow as defensive? I don't see it in my post at all.
I guess now might be a good time to let you know that I live in a rented room and have nothing aside from God. The only way to become 'poorer' would be to live on the street. My family disowned me because of my commitment to God. I AM the poor and needy, I barely survive financially, and yet in 2015 when the Lord instructed me to send a couple hundred dollars I'd suddenly gotten from the government to a family who couldn't pay their rent, I sent it. I'm not complaining, I know God rewards for obedience. I've also given of my food to others in need when my own food was coming from a food bank. It is a very serious misjudgement on your part to infer I don't care for the poor.
I've encountered MANY Christians who, like you, preach about giving to the poor and doing good works. I have no way to know if you actually put your money where your mouth is and do it, but most Christians I've encountered don't. Instead, they preach from their cozy two story air conditioned homes while sitting in front of their big screen TV's and gorging on take out food they picked up using one of their nice cars.

So regarding what you said about telling people to "shut up and go do those things" - well essentially, YES I am kind of saying "shut up and go do them". In this verse below, is God not saying the same? So don't act all offended, just do it.
If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, be warmed and be filled," and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that? - James 2:16

The above is not even what this thread is about. If you'd like to inspire people to give to the poor, why not start a thread about it? - Do something to inspire people..... and if you aren't doing it yourself and it was all just a burning scarecrow tactic then shame on you.

I don't think it's quite as pronounced in Sanders as it is in Trump
The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart" 1 Sam 16:7
Who are we to say who has 'more pride' just because of what we see presented on the outside?
Obviously Trump isn't a smooth-talking politician. He wasn't groomed to be a suave politician and my guess is people are tired of the smooth talkers who hide behind empty words.
 
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EG, I know what you're speaking of. Here's how I feel: What you're seeing unfold politically, which is permeating the media, is one of possibly two things:

1) God will use Trump to bring judgment upon the leadership of our nation. There is Biblical precedent for this. Consider the Book of Daniel and the Babylonian leaders and how God dealt with them after His people humbled themselves during the exile.

2) God is allowing an even greater level of judgment to unfold for our nation as a whole, and God is allowing the devil to use Trump as a means to deceive the masses. In other words, more of the same, but worse.

How do we know which for sure? The only way to know for sure is to know whether or not the hearts of the people of our nation are turning back to God. Certainly, they are clearly frustrated with what's been happening politically, but has it been enough for God to relent and break forth to smite the leaders that have arisen?

I don't know yet. God may reveal this, or time will tell.
Thank you for this great post! I don't claim to know for sure either, but I do believe things are going to get worse before they get better as I think the Lord is going to continue to removed America's lampstand until Christians cry out.
Judgment is always for the purpose of driving those being disciplined back to Him in reconciliation after all.
 
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Thank you for this great post! I don't claim to know for sure either, but I do believe things are going to get worse before they get better as I think the Lord is going to continue to removed America's lampstand until Christians cry out.
When do you believe the United States' trajectory away from Christianity began?
 
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Is anyone here able to have an unbiased civil conversation?

I'm not sure what the discussion is supposed to be about.

Some prophets have made a prophecy. If it comes true, you can give them high fives. If it turns out to be false, you will know they are false prophets, and I trust you will never listen to them again.
 
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I'm sure the same was said about David. David was a pretty bold fellow, in case you haven't studied his character.
The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart" 1 Sam 16:7
SURPRISE!
Excuse me! David was a Shepard that wasn't even recognized by his own father as the possible new king of Israel. His father, when hearing the the High priest was coming to see his sons for that position didn't even call him from the fields. It was after the high priest could not anoint the other sons that Jessy even told him he had another Son. Even after David killed Goliath David played the harp for Kind Saul when he was down. David was one of the most unassuming people in the Bible.

Please don't do this SURPRISE thing as if I haven't read that scripture before and know it's contents. Of course God looks at the heart, but If you look back through the ages, you will see every person God went to was meek and mild in nature. Most of the people even argued with God saying they weren't worthy.

I'm sure he could use Trump, but I think it would be a departure from every incident that I can think of. I would think God knows what he is doing and if such a long line of successes in picking winners why would God pick a loser like Trump just because some human's think he's a winner.
 
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Excuse me! David was a Shepard that wasn't even recognized by his own father as the possible new king of Israel. His father, when hearing the the High priest was coming to see his sons for that position didn't even call him from the fields. It was after the high priest could not anoint the other sons that Jessy even told him he had another Son. Even after David killed Goliath David played the harp for Kind Saul when he was down. David was one of the most unassuming people in the Bible.

Is that so?
God uses people in spite of their faults.
He chooses and uses them and humbles them along the way.
You don't enter into God's leadership already perfected and sanctified, that's not how it works.

-- King David took it upon himself to murder one of his best captains after adulterating and impregnating the man's wife and then didn't even consider it wrong till Nathan spelled it out for him (that reeks of pride!)

-- King David indulged in pride in counting his kingdom and this was prideful and displeasing to God

-- The reason David's father didn't count him as potential king had nothing to do with David being humble, it was because he didn't think his son looked like a king (short and ruddy).

-- Apostle Paul had such an enormous pride problem that God had to allow satan to afflict him to keep him in line.

-- Peter was a loud mouthed FOOL who constantly stuck his foot in his mouth in great pride and even had the nerve to call Jesus a liar when Jesus said he'd deny Him.

-- Elijah openly MOCKED, made fun of, and jeered at the prophets of Baal (try doing that today and see where it gets you)

--Moses was so full of himself he tried to fulfill his calling in his own power by killing an Egyptian.

-- King Saul was so puffed up he figured he knew better than God and directly disobeyed His instructions. He was also full of envy and insecurities, and even consulted a medium.

ALL of God's Chosen children had pride problems, friend -- ALL of them -- God perfected them along the way. -- Some started in pride and allowed sanctification to take place while others ended up more prideful than they started.

Truth be known, every one of us has pride problems - Pride is the main condition we're afflicted with and have in common. I've met people who act very humble on the outside but then it was revealed to me that inside they were filled with enormous pride in the guise of 'false humility' - but the pride is still there and it's just as ugly to God as the person who doesn't hide it.
God looks at the heart.

Look at it this way:
People look at someone like Trump and call him arrogant & prideful (most of us would agree as we clearly see the outward behavior). Then we compare him to some other leader who says all the right things, but they learned to hide their pride under the pretense of false humility.

-- King Cyrus was not a believer in Yahweh but God specifically anointed him to deliver His people in the nation he ruled in. It's recorded Cyrus paid homage to the Babylonian god 'Marduk'.
I imagine "Cyrus the Great" as he was known, wasn't the most humble of leaders, yet God used him anyway.
This is what the LORD says to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of to subdue nations before him and to strip kings of their armor, to open doors before him so that gates will not be shut - Isa 45:1

why would God pick a loser like Trump just because some human's think he's a winner.
Well why wouldn't He?
But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong - 1 Cor 1:27
If He wants to use Trump to accomplish His will, then He will do so.
God is not in the habit of doing what we expect or even what we want.
He does what He deems is right, and often uses those whom we look down on and dismiss as "foolish" to accomplish it.
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Is that so?
God uses people in spite of their faults.
He chooses and uses them and humbles them along the way.
You don't enter into God's leadership already perfected and sanctified, that's not how it works.
God uses the meek not the boisterous.

-- King David took it upon himself to murder one of his best captains after adulterating and impregnating the man's wife and then didn't even consider it wrong till Nathan spelled it out for him (that reeks of pride!)
No. that is not pride. That is lust and fear

-- King David indulged in pride in counting his kingdom and this was prideful and displeasing to God
excuse me. Counting his kingdom. There is an entire book in the Bible about counting

-- The reason David's father didn't count him as potential king had nothing to do with David being humble, it was because he didn't think his son looked like a king (short and ruddy)
He didn't have the mannerisms of one either which is why he submitted to Saul after he both was ordained as the next king and also after killing a giant that no one else in the country could. He also didn't kill Saul when he had the chance. Does that sound like a prideful person? I don't think so.

-- Apostle Paul had such an enormous pride problem that God had to allow Satan to afflict him to keep him in line.
I'd like to see where this came from.

-- Peter was a loud mouthed FOOL who constantly stuck his foot in his mouth in great pride and even had the nerve to call Jesus a liar when Jesus said he'd deny Him.
He didn't call Jesus a liar. Stop being so over dramatic. He, like all of us have done expected too much from himself and was proven wrong. This can not be chalked up as pride because a proud person would have not followed Jesus in the first place.

-- Elijah openly MOCKED, made fun of, and jeered at the prophets of Baal (try doing that today and see where it gets you)
I don't even know why you put this in here.

--Moses was so full of himself he tried to fulfill his calling in his own power by killing an Egyptian.
No Moses was filled with anger and killed that person for mistreating his countrymen.

- King Saul was so puffed up he figured he knew better than God and directly disobeyed His instructions. He was also full of envy and insecurities, and even consulted a medium.
No. Saul was afraid of the masses and did what they wanted instead of what God wanted.

ALL of God's Chosen children had pride problems, friend -- ALL of them -- God perfected them along the way. -- Some started in pride and allowed sanctification to take place while others ended up more prideful than they started.
As I've pointed out that is not true. If you want to use the bible to justify your ideals then we have reached the end of our discussion here and I will will go my way in this.

Truth be known, every one of us has pride problems - Pride is the main condition we're afflicted with and have in common. I've met people who act very humble on the outside but then it was revealed to me that inside they were filled with enormous pride in the guise of 'false humility' - but the pride is still there and it's just as ugly to God as the person who doesn't hide it.
God looks at the heart.
Some people are so disgusted with themselves that they have killed themselves and you make the accusation that even they had pride. You are too much into proving something that you've ignored some of the obvious facts in human nature and that is none of us are the same and not all of us conform to your imagery or mine.

Look at it this way:
People look at someone like Trump and call him arrogant & prideful (most of us would agree as we clearly see the outward behavior). Then we compare him to some other leader who says all the right things, but they learned to hide their pride under the pretense of false humility.
You don't know this. Only God knows what's in a persons heart.

-- King Cyrus was not a believer in Yahweh but God specifically anointed him to deliver His people in the nation he ruled in. It's recorded Cyrus paid homage to the Babylonian god 'Marduk'.
I imagine "Cyrus the Great" as he was known, wasn't the most humble of leaders, yet God used him anyway.
This is what the LORD says to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of to subdue nations before him and to strip kings of their armor, to open doors before him so that gates will not be shut - Isa 45:1
You can say what you want. you've done so consistently since this post started.


Well why wouldn't He?
But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong - 1 Cor 1:27
If He wants to use Trump to accomplish His will, then He will do so.
God is not in the habit of doing what we expect or even what we want.
He does what He deems is right, and often uses those whom we look down on and dismiss as "foolish" to accomplish it.
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The main word in all this promotive reasoning is IF and that is where the rubber meets the road. As I've said and as I've proven Good has historically used those who are meek to do hid work and none of that work has failed. Cherry picking Scripture will not win you anything either.
 
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I'm sorry, did I come off somehow as defensive? I don't see it in my post at all.
I guess now might be a good time to let you know that I live in a rented room and have nothing aside from God. The only way to become 'poorer' would be to live on the street. My family disowned me because of my commitment to God. I AM the poor and needy, I barely survive financially, and yet in 2015 when the Lord instructed me to send a couple hundred dollars I'd suddenly gotten from the government to a family who couldn't pay their rent, I sent it. I'm not complaining, I know God rewards for obedience. I've also given of my food to others in need when my own food was coming from a food bank. It is a very serious misjudgement on your part to infer I don't care for the poor.
I've encountered MANY Christians who, like you, preach about giving to the poor and doing good works. I have no way to know if you actually put your money where your mouth is and do it, but most Christians I've encountered don't. Instead, they preach from their cozy two story air conditioned homes while sitting in front of their big screen TV's and gorging on take out food they picked up using one of their nice cars.
You did come off as defensive and I reread your post and it still came off that way - maybe it's me?

Either way, you're not the sort of person who should be giving to charity you're the sort of person to whom charities should be giving to from what you've said of your personal situation.

Part of the problem with poverty and even with much of the charity mentality is that it is fundamentally a bandage to the real systematic problems facing societies - economic and social disparities which are indispensable to the Capitalist framework.

Who are we to say who has 'more pride' just because of what we see presented on the outside?
Obviously Trump isn't a smooth-talking politician. He wasn't groomed to be a suave politician and my guess is people are tired of the smooth talkers who hide behind empty words.
I mean, this and your subsequent post which lists all sorts of biblical characters and their flaws is really strange. David would have been a better person to not have murdered Uriah. It'd be better not to have a narcissistic egomaniac president, wouldn't it? It'd be better to have a president who considers him or herself as a servant of the American public rather than their unquestionable and indubitable leader.
 
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