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Thank you Cory533 for clarification on that note and I am glad that you did not take it as an offence but rather as a pointer into a type of method that had to be refurbished overtime.

Oscarr, thank you for clearing me up on the history and process of how the prophetic has evolved over time into its present form. I was never aware until now how some denominations have been a bit reserved into the delivery of a prophetic word.

As I have mentioned in the past, I enjoy the worship with any denominations regardless of the level of how much room the Spirit is given. I have restrained myself in the past to give a word especially in a Pentecostal circle because I did not grow up in that circle. Even when I feel a strong urge to step out in faith, I don't because I believe that their own should be exercising the gift for the benefit of their circle.

As for the first person and second person delivery, I need to be clear in this. When I give a word, it's always in the person deliver and as I've already mentioned, God can speak for Himself and I am more than happy and blessed to be a vessel as He wills when He so chooses to speak through me as a mouthpiece.

When I speak in a second person delivery, anything mentioned is my own opinion. It may be presented as an inspiration and may even sound very prophetic but it's not a prophetic message. I realize that some people are more comfortable with this approach and as Cory533 mentioned, it's probably a cultural difference.

I would prefer, again, with the OP's orchestration on this thread that the participants provide equal opportunity to judge the word given whether it's a first person delivery or second person delivery with respect to the vessel being used. It's easy to call anything or imply anything of the "devil" as our Lord Jesus Christ was often accused of.

A word from the Lord is His alone and He will not share His glory with another. It's understandble that God cannot physically take over a person and start typing on a key board. After all He is a spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth. In the same manner, when He chooses to speak through me, the natural man must step aside and allow the spirit man to become a vessel so that the anointing of the Holy Spirit can pour forth freely and speak as He wills.

Didn't Jesus say that I and the Father are one? The Jews and the scribes called that a blasphemy. Jesus also mentioned that because he was treated as such, we, as His disciples, would not be treated any better. I've seen some fairly hefty debates taking place in this forum over some arguments based on their own understanding of the scripture.

I have also seen some well meaning disciples get "stoned" for standing on their belief in scripture as it is given. It's interesting that the "scribes" mentioned in the bible are the ones who are literate. The same scribes appear to be prominant speakers in these forums as those who were 2000 years ago. Today, are we not all scribes? We're doing a good job in inscribing our beliefs over the net regardless of our location and making followers of those who would believe.

My heart goes out to all those who the Holy Spirit would like to train and equip that they too may go out and provide word for brothers and sisters out there who desperately need to hear from Him. His word is His promise for them. His word is His will for them. His word is something that can only be delivered in spirit and in truth.

It can't be delivered with the intellect. This is where we as scribes can seriously question the content because it's easy for us to require, "proof", "show me the scripture" so on and so forth. Some emotional content may be involved but that's only because the Holy Spirit can reach into the most deepest recesses of the heart and bring to surface what has been laying there dormant.

I am not a prophet nor am I an apostle but I can speak with the same authority as Jesus spoke as a disciple can only become the same as his teacher. He has given us that latitude to become as He is because as He is in heaven, so are we down here on earth. It was because He spoke with such authority that people were drawn to Him in His time. I believe when a child of God speaks with the same authority as He spoke that many are drawn to Him and as He is lifted up, He will draw all men to Him.

He is lifted in the very words that are spoken when a child of God speaks a prophetic word because the Holy Spirit doesn't draw attention to Himself but to Jesus Christ our Lord Who is the One Who is glorified. I have seen some very powerful anointing and I have seen those who have been bound by the devil released as a result of being given a prophetic word in the first person delivery and to this day those people are being used profoundly by God to serve Him whole heartedly.

I am not here to debate. I am only here because there are people of God out there who have been bound by the devil but like our Lord Jesus Christ said that the thief came not but for to kill steal and destroy. Our Lord Jesus Christ came that they might have life and that they might have it more abundantly. How else can they have it more abundantly unless they hear from Him Who loved them and gave Himself for them that He might deliver them from this present evil age?

Thank you Oscarr for clearing a few things up. If the Lord is going to set His house in order, then we need to give Him that freedom to do so for where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. He is the One that will make the crooked places straight. The Holy Spirit is the One Who will guide us into all truth and His word is truth. May His vessels be given the freedom to express His glory that the Son may be glorified, Him Who sits on the throne and has His enemy as a footstool beneath His feet. Shalom.
 
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Thank you Cory533 for clarification on that note and I am glad that you did not take it as an offence but rather as a pointer into a type of method that had to be refurbished overtime.

Oscarr, thank you for clearing me up on the history and process of how the prophetic has evolved over time into its present form. I was never aware until now how some denominations have been a bit reserved into the delivery of a prophetic word.

As I have mentioned in the past, I enjoy the worship with any denominations regardless of the level of how much room the Spirit is given. I have restrained myself in the past to give a word especially in a Pentecostal circle because I did not grow up in that circle. Even when I feel a strong urge to step out in faith, I don't because I believe that their own should be exercising the gift for the benefit of their circle.

As for the first person and second person delivery, I need to be clear in this. When I give a word, it's always in the person deliver and as I've already mentioned, God can speak for Himself and I am more than happy and blessed to be a vessel as He wills when He so chooses to speak through me as a mouthpiece.

When I speak in a second person delivery, anything mentioned is my own opinion. It may be presented as an inspiration and may even sound very prophetic but it's not a prophetic message. I realize that some people are more comfortable with this approach and as Cory533 mentioned, it's probably a cultural difference.

I would prefer, again, with the OP's orchestration on this thread that the participants provide equal opportunity to judge the word given whether it's a first person delivery or second person delivery with respect to the vessel being used. It's easy to call anything or imply anything of the "devil" as our Lord Jesus Christ was often accused of.

A word from the Lord is His alone and He will not share His glory with another. It's understandble that God cannot physically take over a person and start typing on a key board. After all He is a spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth. In the same manner, when He chooses to speak through me, the natural man must step aside and allow the spirit man to become a vessel so that the anointing of the Holy Spirit can pour forth freely and speak as He wills.

Didn't Jesus say that I and the Father are one? The Jews and the scribes called that a blasphemy. Jesus also mentioned that because he was treated as such, we, as His disciples, would not be treated any better. I've seen some fairly hefty debates taking place in this forum over some arguments based on their own understanding of the scripture.

I have also seen some well meaning disciples get "stoned" for standing on their belief in scripture as it is given. It's interesting that the "scribes" mentioned in the bible are the ones who are literate. The same scribes appear to be prominant speakers in these forums as those who were 2000 years ago. Today, are we not all scribes? We're doing a good job in inscribing our beliefs over the net regardless of our location and making followers of those who would believe.

My heart goes out to all those who the Holy Spirit would like to train and equip that they too may go out and provide word for brothers and sisters out there who desperately need to hear from Him. His word is His promise for them. His word is His will for them. His word is something that can only be delivered in spirit and in truth.

It can't be delivered with the intellect. This is where we as scribes can seriously question the content because it's easy for us to require, "proof", "show me the scripture" so on and so forth. Some emotional content may be involved but that's only because the Holy Spirit can reach into the most deepest recesses of the heart and bring to surface what has been laying there dormant.

I am not a prophet nor am I an apostle but I can speak with the same authority as Jesus spoke as a disciple can only become the same as his teacher. He has given us that latitude to become as He is because as He is in heaven, so are we down here on earth. It was because He spoke with such authority that people were drawn to Him in His time. I believe when a child of God speaks with the same authority as He spoke that many are drawn to Him and as He is lifted up, He will draw all men to Him.

He is lifted in the very words that are spoken when a child of God speaks a prophetic word because the Holy Spirit doesn't draw attention to Himself but to Jesus Christ our Lord Who is the One Who is glorified. I have seen some very powerful anointing and I have seen those who have been bound by the devil released as a result of being given a prophetic word in the first person delivery and to this day those people are being used profoundly by God to serve Him whole heartedly.

I am not here to debate. I am only here because there are people of God out there who have been bound by the devil but like our Lord Jesus Christ said that the thief came not but for to kill steal and destroy. Our Lord Jesus Christ came that they might have life and that they might have it more abundantly. How else can they have it more abundantly unless they hear from Him Who loved them and gave Himself for them that He might deliver them from this present evil age?

Thank you Oscarr for clearing a few things up. If the Lord is going to set His house in order, then we need to give Him that freedom to do so for where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. He is the One that will make the crooked places straight. The Holy Spirit is the One Who will guide us into all truth and His word is truth. May His vessels be given the freedom to express His glory that the Son may be glorified, Him Who sits on the throne and has His enemy as a footstool beneath His feet. Shalom.

Amen brother, Could you give me a prophecy in the first person, if God flows, of course, Thanks:thumbsup:
 
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Amen brother, Could you give me a prophecy in the first person, if God flows, of course, Thanks:thumbsup:

Thank you brother for your words of encouragement:

My child. My love was it not for you that I sent my only son to die on the cross for you? Because you believe that he died on the cross for you, I am doing a new thing in you today. I am also making the reality of his ressurection real to you.

I was not pleased to leave him in a tomb but because he offered himself to me, I raised him from the dead and as I did, you became a new man in him. This newness of life I have given you is for you to share with the lost that they may come to me and that I might give them life freely.

I not only raised him from the dead but seated him on the throne. When I seated him on the throne, I also placed you with him that you might know that I have place all authority in him. Did I not say this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased?

I am calling you to new heights in the spirit and as you learn to hear my voice and obey, I will send you to a people who have been hard of hearing my word and as you allow me to speak through you, I will open their ears that you may understand that my word is truth.

You are mine, my child and I will lead you in ways you have not known and because I seek those who will worship me in spirit and in truth, I will bring you to a level of faith where you will give glory to my Name that is above all names.

Come my child. Come my love for if you will allow the anointing that has its residence in you to flow freely, I will cause you to walk in perfect liberty for I will teach you ways that the natural mind cannot comprehend. Take my hand my child for I will lead you.
 
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Wow... this thread is moving fast. I have not posted here since the thread splitted. I just want to add my subscription to this thread.

By the way, I don't mean to be a party pooper, but the last time I was in this forum, I heard that it is against the rule to post prophecies directed to an individual. Is this thread an exception? Please someone tell me as I haven't been keeping up. If it's not against the rules, I'll start listening for people and see if I get anything. :)
 
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Hey guys...could use some prayers about now...

Every so often I have bouts of extreme depression and panic attacks, and unfortunately this time I've been having major insomnia as well.

I'm not suicidal, but stress in my life is very great right now. So any prayers would be much appreciated :wave:

~Heather :hug:

Sorry to hear this, sister. I'm praying for a breakthrough for you. :hug:
 
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Sorry to hear this, sister. I'm praying for a breakthrough for you. :hug:
Thanks :hug:

This week has been quite a bit better, but I just keep having to plug away and believe that this is not something I *have* to deal with as a Child of God. So it's holding onto that promise and walking it out that's hard sometimes. :)
 
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Wow... this thread is moving fast. I have not posted here since the thread splitted. I just want to add my subscription to this thread.

By the way, I don't mean to be a party pooper, but the last time I was in this forum, I heard that it is against the rule to post prophecies directed to an individual. Is this thread an exception? Please someone tell me as I haven't been keeping up. If it's not against the rules, I'll start listening for people and see if I get anything. :)

The thing about that last prophecy is that it is "generic" as well. This means that anyone can read the prophecy and receive as a word for them even though it was not originaly requested by them.

Now, in the light of the rule about personal prophecy, I have put a statement with my prophecies to that effect that even though a word has been requested, it also can be generic as well. I believe then that I can give a prophetic word in response to a request and still remain within the rules.

That last prophecy, although it was in the first person (which I don't use in my prophecies), it is entirely consistent with what God would say to a person, because it is totally consistent with Scripture - ie: what God has already said to all of us in His Word.
 
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Wow... this thread is moving fast. I have not posted here since the thread splitted. I just want to add my subscription to this thread.

By the way, I don't mean to be a party pooper, but the last time I was in this forum, I heard that it is against the rule to post prophecies directed to an individual. Is this thread an exception? Please someone tell me as I haven't been keeping up. If it's not against the rules, I'll start listening for people and see if I get anything. :)
Hi Ahmunmun

You can listen for me if you like :)
 
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Hello fellow brothers and sisters! My love reaches out to you all! I'm trying to move in the prophetic.. Any suggestions or advice as to how to start? I feel like I hear from God as to if someone's going through a hard time but don't hear anything about a situation.. any way I can hear more or get a word for them? As for me I could REALLY use a word if anyone feels they have one. Thanks! Blessings and I love you!
 
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Wow Cheri i bowed my head at my computor to pray for you and a blast of emotions hit me my eyes have swelled up with tears. What a wonderful heart you have when you look at the stars at night you see so much more than others do. Its like your heart flows straight out to the light shining from the stars. Like oil flowing into water you are so very spirtual and God sees this Cheri. When God gives me visions i can always see the Holy Spirit flowing and from what God has shown me your heart flows much the same when you gaze into the stars yearning to go home. I would like to thank you Cheri for asking for a word what i just felt when God showed me your heart is priceless Thanks !!
 
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Wow Cheri i bowed my head at my computor to pray for you and a blast of emotions hit me my eyes have swelled up with tears. What a wonderful heart you have when you look at the stars at night you see so much more than others do. Its like your heart flows straight out to the light shining from the stars. Like oil flowing into water you are so very spirtual and God sees this Cheri. When God gives me visions i can always see the Holy Spirit flowing and from what God has shown me your heart flows much the same when you gaze into the stars yearning to go home. I would like to thank you Cheri for asking for a word what i just felt when God showed me your heart is priceless Thanks !!

That doesnt sound much like a word from God to me.

Got anything more?
 
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