President Biden vows to 'shut down the border' if Congress passes bipartisan deal

[returntosender]

That's the problem with these threads. Plenty of problems but no answers.
Excitists.

 

[Arcangl86]

Perhaps you haven't noticed...but nobody enforces any nation's decision to allow or refuse asylum.

No. But the USC does lay out the qualifications for asylum and the right to apply for it governed by regulations.

Most of these people are passing through multiple nations and not applying for asylum.

Ok. There is no requirement in the INA that somebody not pass through multiple nations before seeking asylum.

We can definitely wholesale reject everyone who hasn't applied elsewhere and justify it at this point.

Only if we don't care about the rule of law.

 

[rambot]

Thanks, but that is a summary of what someone says is in the bill. I see no mention of the Ukraine or Israel. H.R. 2 is still out there, this Senate bill is dead on arrival with the House. Joe Biden has the power to close the border today. The Immigration and Nationality Act, (212)f allows Joe to “suspend the entry of all aliens" whose entry he finds "would be detrimental to the interests of the United States.”

and yet there's no evidence that their (communal) entry "would be detrimental to the interests of the United States"... just assumption

 

[Valletta]

and yet there's no evidence that their (communal) entry "would be detrimental to the interests of the United States"... just assumption

The application by Trump of the Immigration and Naturalization Act was working quite well. The judgment is left up to the president, as per the first four words I have highlighted:

"Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

 

[Arcangl86]

The application by Trump of the Immigration and Naturalization Act was working quite well. The judgment is left up to the president, as per the first four words I have highlighted:

"Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

The aliens you are concerned about are already inadmissible. But they are still legally entitled to asylum hearings.

 

[Vambram]

The aliens you are concerned about are already inadmissible. But they are still legally entitled to asylum hearings.

Asylum hearings with a date that is usually years from now.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Asylum hearings with a date that is usually years from now.

Fund more immigration courts, etc. That's how backlogs get relieved.

 

[Vambram]

Fund more immigration courts, etc. That's how backlogs get relieved.

Throw more money at the problem.


How long would it take to train and hire qualified judges and staff personnel in order for their to actually have more immigration courts?


Meanwhile, the finite resources of our nation will continue to be used to pay for stuff on people who are not legal citizens OR legal immigrants.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Throw more money at the problem.


How long would it take to train and hire qualified judges and staff personnel in order for their to actually have more immigration courts?

I don't know, but it is part of the original Senate plan for border funding.

Meanwhile, the finite resources of our nation will continue to be used to pay for stuff on people who are not legal citizens OR legal immigrants.

Deportations can only happen after adjudication. So if you want those people to be sent back you'll need judges,

 

[Vambram]

Deportations can only happen after adjudication. So if you want those people to be sent back you'll need judges,

That may be true under Joe's Administration. But I am pretty sure another president will have a different interpretation of how and when deportations can happen.

 

[Hans Blaster]

That may be true under Joe's Administration. But I am pretty sure another president will have a different interpretation of how and when deportations can happen.

It's the law.

 

[Vambram]

Are you 100% sure about that?

Democrats, White House say Biden already has the power to better secure border without new laws

Pressure is mounting on Biden to issue executive orders to address the border crisis after he rescinded many of Trump's border-related executive orders upon taking office.

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