Palestine DNA Jewish than those living in Israel

[Hazelelponi]

Ask an unbeliever if Israel is the Promised Land.

There are Muslim clerics who openly declare Islam to teach the land of Israel to be a land for the house of Israel given to them by God.

Muslims are the people fighting over the land, and the scholars cannot separate the tribes of Israel from the land.

So how do we expect others to?

Like Mohammed through genocide of Jews? My answer to this is a big fat no.

It doesn't matter what unbelievers think in the land of Abrahamic faiths.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

However, I still found the same European admixture in the article:

They're from all over Europe. This could cement the likelihood that Palestinian Arabs are more genetically related to ancient Jews than modern Jews.

It's ridiculous that the West is likely playing into the devil's deceit into decimating the "lost" people of God they branded as terrorists while secularly-recognized modern Jews are often mentioned to have partly Eastern European origins in genealogy studies - the place of "Rosh" in Gog and Magog and the whole of Europe including parts of Russia is generally the "northern kingdom". "The invaders". It seems to fit Biblical prophecy.

Again, you have no evidence of that...Arabs have admixture too and more...they are not Jews, they are MUSLIMS. Sephardim have admixture of Spanish and Arabic. Ethiopian Jews also have African and Arabic admixture. Just because some Arabs also have Jewish admixture does not mean they are the "real Jews". Admixture is not always synonymous with origin as you are trying to posit...

 

[timewerx]

Again, you have no evidence of that...Arabs have admixture too and more...they are not Jews, they are MUSLIMS. Sephardim have admixture of Spanish and Arabic. Ethiopian Jews also have African and Arabic admixture. Just because some Arabs also have Jewish admixture does not mean they are the "real Jews". Admixture is not always synonymous with origin as you are trying to posit...

Secularly, anyone who is a Judaist is automatically a Jew regardless of genetics.

However, in the Bible, it's defined by the % of your genetic composition. In the Bible, you're not just an Israelite but can also be under a certain tribe like the Tribe of Judah or the Tribe of Benjamin, etc.

I'm just saying the Palestine Arabs may have higher % of ancient Jewish genes than Ashkenazi Jews due to origin from Canaan and that means the Bible will more likely recognize the Palestine Arabs as Jews than the Ashkenazi Jews.

 

[essentialsaltes]

HEY! To ANY unbelievers reading ; is Israel the Promised Land ?

As a 'literary reference', I understand the connection, but it has no more 'real' meaning than Reno being the Biggest Little City in the World.

As for the OP, while I don't doubt the Jewish diaspora means there has been a lot of genetic admixture, I note the first reference has been retracted.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Secularly, anyone who is a Judaist is automatically a Jew regardless of genetics.

However, in the Bible, it's defined by the % of your genetic composition. In the Bible, you're not just an Israelite but can also be under a certain tribe like the Tribe of Judah or the Tribe of Benjamin, etc.

I'm just saying the Palestine Arabs may have higher % of ancient Jewish genes than Ashkenazi Jews due to origin from Canaan and that means the Bible will more likely recognize the Palestine Arabs as Jews than the Ashkenazi Jews.

Ashkenazim are not the only Jews and Arabs are either Christians or mostly Muslims. So what tribe are the Arabs from lol?

 

[timewerx]

As a 'literary reference', I understand the connection, but it has no more 'real' meaning than Reno being the Biggest Little City in the World.

As for the OP, while I don't doubt the Jewish diaspora means there has been a lot of genetic admixture, I note the first reference has been retracted.

Ironically, in the Bible, Jesus taught that Israel is not a place on Earth and that His people won't be fighting over it (because it's not on Earth).

Jesus Himself discredits Zionism since the Judaists have fought against the Arabs in order to secure a patch of land in the Palestine

The Bible weighs on the genes more than the religious affiliation. So an Arab with more ancient Jewish genetics is considered a Jew over someone with less Jewish genetics even if that someone is a Judaist.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

The Bible weighs on the genes more than the religious affiliation. So an Arab with more ancient Jewish genetics is considered a Jew over someone with less Jewish genetics even if that someone is a Judaist.

You have NO proof of that! You keep repeating it but you have NO evidence of that. So you must have an alternate agenda...

 

[essentialsaltes]

The Bible weighs on the genes more than the religious affiliation. So an Arab with more ancient Jewish genetics is considered a Jew over someone with less Jewish genetics even if that someone is a Judaist.

That ventures outside of "Physical & Life Sciences" so I have no opinion or interest.

Well, strike that, I will go so far as to say that people who assert 'The _____ are the Real Jews!' have historically been racist buttheads.

 

[timewerx]

Ashkenazim are not the only Jews and Arabs are either Christians or mostly Muslims. So what tribe are the Arabs from lol?

Ashkenazi Jews are the majority of modern Jews this is why they are are the focus of this discussion.

You still don't believe the Bible acknowledges someone's ethnicity by their genetic composition instead of their chosen religion.

Is there a passage in the Bible where Jews were called pagans for turning to pagan gods?

If the world decides to call someone Arab even if his genetics is mostly Jewish, are you going to believe the world over the Bible?

 

[timewerx]

That ventures outside of "Physical & Life Sciences" so I have no opinion or interest.

Well, strike that, I will go so far as to say that people who assert 'The _____ are the Real Jews!' have historically been racist buttheads.

I'm confused by your statement there. Is it because you don't believe the Bible so the "Jewish" race is only made up and therefore, the Jews are nothing more than a diverse mix of races believing in the same religion?

 

[timewerx]

You have NO proof of that! You keep repeating it but you have NO evidence of that. So you must have an alternate agenda...

I keep repeating myself because you're showing no proof as well why you think I'm wrong.

Even the scientific articles you referred to me supports my OP.

 

[timewerx]

Have not seen yet what the agenda is for 'werx..... but it is not Christian by the posts posted.
Is definitely anti-Scripture, and just taking up space and time without learning anything, it seems.

How is it anti-Scripture when it fits Biblical prophecy?

Palestine Arabs are playing the role of the Jews in the end times. Their land invaded by invaders who originated from the North and none are able to help them against an unstoppable foe (USA + Israel combined)

The world incited to hate them by branding them as terrorists. The silent majority hates them otherwise, the war would have been stopped much sooner.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Ashkenazi Jews are the majority of modern Jews this is why they are are the focus of this discussion.

You still don't believe the Bible acknowledges someone's ethnicity by their genetic composition instead of their chosen religion.

Is there a passage in the Bible where Jews were called pagans for turning to pagan gods?

If the world decides to call someone Arab even if his genetics is mostly Jewish, are you going to believe the world over the Bible?

Worldwide most (80%) are Ashkenazi. However, in Israel, about 45% of the Jewish population is Ashkenazi, while the other 55% is Sephardi. Which Arabs are mostly Jewish? Mizrahi Jews are...oh but they are Jews...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

The world incited to hate them by branding them as terrorists. The silent majority hates them otherwise, the war would have been stopped much sooner.

They ARE terrorists...Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad...all terrorist Iranian proxies. Are Iranians the real Jews also lol? You have no leg to stand on...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Even the scientific articles you referred to me supports my OP.

No they don't. It shows you do not understand them and you have an agenda...

 

[BCP1928]

Ask an unbeliever if Israel is the Promised Land.

Must be. Jews have always lived there.

 

[AV1611VET]

Must be. Jews have always lived there.

Negative.

 

[BCP1928]

Negative.

Negative? Jews have lived there since the Exodus. There were always a few, even after the Diaspora and later after the Byzantine expulsions. The low point came when Jews were massacred and sold into slavery by the Crusaders. With the rise of the Ottoman Empire, Ottoman Palestine became a refuge for Jews escaping persecution in Europe. Tens of thousands fled there during the Reconquista.

 

[AV1611VET]

Negative?

The land was populated by non-Jews prior to God giving it to Abraham and his descendants.

Deuteronomy 7:1 When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou;

 

[Aaron112]

The land was populated by non-Jews prior to God giving it to Abraham and his descendants.

Off topic question : were they 'dogs' ? (heathen, pagan, gentiles)