1 Year since Start of Israel-Hamas War (October 7, 2023 to October 7, 2024)

[AlexB23]

Hello folks. It has been 1 year since the start of the Israel-Hamas war. Which things do you want to be seen done on both sides? For myself as a pacifist, it would be nice if a country could charge Hamas for crimes, and place Hamas leaders in jail, for any Palestinian that is innocent (as in, not affiliated with a terror org) to relocate to Jordan for the time being until Hamas is removed from Palestine, and for Israel to remain safe, as Israel is the Holy Land. Once Hamas is weeded out, then the Palestinians can move back to Palestine. This process could take months.

Arab Christian living in Israel is pro-Israel and pro-peace: Home of Jesus the King Church
In Nazareth (Israel), Arab Christians are actively promoting peace and unity with their Jewish neighbors, offering support and a message of coexistence amidst conflicts. Pastor Saleem, who used to harbor hatred towards Israel, experienced a life-changing transformation and now leads efforts to build bridges of peace. He emphasizes that their vision is to be peacemakers, creating a new generation free of hatred and promoting understanding among Muslims, Jews, and Christians. Their humanitarian aid center serves as an example of their commitment to peaceful co-existence. Despite being a minority, these Arab Christians are not just bystanders but active participants, standing as a testament to the enduring spirit of brotherhood in times of peace and conflict alike.

Quote from AP: "Israel’s longstanding internal divisions briefly eased in the aftermath of Hamas’ attack, but have only intensified since. Weekly protests calling for a cease-fire deal that would free hostages are attended mostly by secular Jewish Israelis who oppose Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his government."

Quote from JPost: "Israel is now at war on six fronts (seven, if you count the Jordanian border), and the massacre unleashed a worldwide wave of antisemitism, the likes of which has not been seen since the Nazi era. It shows no signs of abating and is aided by a sophisticated social media campaign of disinformation and veneration of terror groups."

From AP:

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-israelis-mood-depression-28daf7e6aa8ddab419cf76e31b111d4f

From JPost:

October 7, one year on: A look at a year ravaged by the Israel-Hamas War

The Jerusalem Post Magazine takes a look back at the year since the October 7 massacre and the Israel-Hamas War.

www.jpost.com

 

[AlexB23]

Guys, yes I know it is October 6, 2024 at 9:31 PM here, but for those in Europe, and for those who read this post tomorrow on October 7, the war would have raged for 365 days.

 

[Nithavela]

Hello folks. It has been 1 year since the start of the Israel-Hamas war. Which things do you want to be seen done on both sides?

I'd like for Israel to properly conquer the Gaza strip and integrate it into its national territory. I'd also like if they demolished the Hesbollah militia and conquered enough of Lebanon for a security strip at their border that enables people in the north of Israel to live in relative safety.

 

[Robban]

Hello folks. It has been 1 year since the start of the Israel-Hamas war. Which things do you want to be seen done on both sides? For myself as a pacifist, it would be nice if a country could charge Hamas for crimes, and place Hamas leaders in jail, for any Palestinian that is innocent (as in, not affiliated with a terror org) to relocate to Jordan for the time being until Hamas is removed from Palestine, and for Israel to remain safe, as Israel is the Holy Land. Once Hamas is weeded out, then the Palestinians can move back to Palestine. This process could take months.

Arab Christian living in Israel is pro-Israel and pro-peace: Home of Jesus the King Church
In Nazareth (Israel), Arab Christians are actively promoting peace and unity with their Jewish neighbors, offering support and a message of coexistence amidst conflicts. Pastor Saleem, who used to harbor hatred towards Israel, experienced a life-changing transformation and now leads efforts to build bridges of peace. He emphasizes that their vision is to be peacemakers, creating a new generation free of hatred and promoting understanding among Muslims, Jews, and Christians. Their humanitarian aid center serves as an example of their commitment to peaceful co-existence. Despite being a minority, these Arab Christians are not just bystanders but active participants, standing as a testament to the enduring spirit of brotherhood in times of peace and conflict alike.

Quote from AP: "Israel’s longstanding internal divisions briefly eased in the aftermath of Hamas’ attack, but have only intensified since. Weekly protests calling for a cease-fire deal that would free hostages are attended mostly by secular Jewish Israelis who oppose Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his government."

Quote from JPost: "Israel is now at war on six fronts (seven, if you count the Jordanian border), and the massacre unleashed a worldwide wave of antisemitism, the likes of which has not been seen since the Nazi era. It shows no signs of abating and is aided by a sophisticated social media campaign of disinformation and veneration of terror groups."

From AP:

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-israelis-mood-depression-28daf7e6aa8ddab419cf76e31b111d4f

From JPost:

October 7, one year on: A look at a year ravaged by the Israel-Hamas War

The Jerusalem Post Magazine takes a look back at the year since the October 7 massacre and the Israel-Hamas War.

www.jpost.com

"This time I will thank G-d"
Genesis 29:35

Judah, Lea`s fourth son, was named for her gratitude.

The tribe of Judah, which is the tribe of royalty embodies the quality and humility-----the ability to

acknowledge one`s wrongdoings, as well a one`s position as a recipient of blessings,

the quality of humility is an essential characteristic of a leader who leads from a position

of receptivity rather than power.

(from the book "Our people" by Jacob Isaacs)

Something which seems to be in short supply this day today.

 

[Lost4words]

RIP all that have lost their lives...

 

[hislegacy]

Saturday evening Berlin was brought to a virtual stand still because of on going protests. Sometimes violent.

Our friends commented on the level of violence the Palestinians are showing in Berlin has not been seen in the past.

 

[Phil G]

I was at an October 7th commemoration yesterday. The video below was shown in memory of the paramedic and singer Amit Mann who sacrificed her life to save others. Remembering all who died and those who continue to suffer.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

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Saturday evening Berlin was brought to a virtual stand still because of on going protests. Sometimes violent.

Our friends commented on the level of violence the Palestinians are showing in Berlin has not been seen in the past.

I believe they just adopted a law in Germany that it is a crime to promote antisemitism, Hamas and say "from the river to the sea"

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

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Saturday evening Berlin was brought to a virtual stand still because of on going protests. Sometimes violent.

Our friends commented on the level of violence the Palestinians are showing in Berlin has not been seen in the past.

Individuals who post 'From the River to the Sea' to be denied German citizenship - European Jewish Congress

One of the requirements for citizenship, clause 10.1.1.1.3.1, concerns "Germany’s special historical responsibility for the National Socialist injustice and its consequences, especially for the protection of Jewish life."

eurojewcong.org

 

[Apple Sky]

Saturday evening Berlin was brought to a virtual stand still because of on going protests. Sometimes violent.

Our friends commented on the level of violence the Palestinians are showing in Berlin has not been seen in the past.

Many a true word in songs.

 

[AlexB23]

I'd like for Israel to properly conquer the Gaza strip and integrate it into its national territory. I'd also like if they demolished the Hesbollah militia and conquered enough of Lebanon for a security strip at their border that enables people in the north of Israel to live in relative safety.

I think that would be a good idea. That means Israelis and Palestinians could finally live in peace, under one Israel. The security strip could be 10-20 km wide, to allow Northern Israelis some peace.

 

[AlexB23]

I was at an October 7th commemoration yesterday. The video below was shown in memory of the paramedic and singer Amit Mann who sacrificed her life to save others. Remembering all who died and those who continue to suffer.

God bless Amit Mann for being a hero to save others. She truly lived up to John 15:13. I have never heard of Amit Mann, but she has done more than most Christians do in a lifetime. As we are all alive here, we have not laid down our life yet for someone, or by the grace of God, we never had to lay down our lives yet.

John 15:13 (NIV): "Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends."

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[AlexB23]

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Saturday evening Berlin was brought to a virtual stand still because of on going protests. Sometimes violent.

Our friends commented on the level of violence the Palestinians are showing in Berlin has not been seen in the past.

Guys, pray for Berlin. Germany as a whole has not seen this level of violence since the 1990s (Rostock riots), the 1972 Munich Olympics attack, and since WWII.

Also, dang, that is a huge traffic jam. If people want to protest, folks might wanna go find an open grassy area, instead of impeding the flow of cars and public transit systems.

 

[AlexB23]

"This time I will thank G-d"
Genesis 29:35

Judah, Lea`s fourth son, was named for her gratitude.

The tribe of Judah, which is the tribe of royalty embodies the quality and humility-----the ability to

acknowledge one`s wrongdoings, as well a one`s position as a recipient of blessings,

the quality of humility is an essential characteristic of a leader who leads from a position

of receptivity rather than power.

(from the book "Our people" by Jacob Isaacs)

Something which seems to be in short supply this day today.

I have never heard of Jacob Isaacs, but this is a good quote. Sounds very Christian. We must be humble as a society, instead of fighting. This is why humble leaders are important for our society. Humility is in short supply today, as it has always been in short supply, but even worse today with social media and power struggles.

 

[Phil G]

God bless Amit Mann for being a hero to save others. She truly lived up to John 15:13. I have never heard of Amit Mann, but she has done more than most Christians do in a lifetime. As we are all alive here, we have not laid down our life yet for someone, or by the grace of God, we never had to lay down our lives yet.

John 15:13 (NIV): "Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends."

Self-Sacrifice Devotional:

Self-Sacrifice

Hello folks. Today is 9/11, a day to remember the lives of the victims and of the heroes that saved countless lives after the attacks in 2001. This devotional covers self-sacrifice, the act of putting time, resources, or even our own lives to help the greater good of society. Date September...

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I attended a memorial service with the Jewish community yesterday where we heard some testimonies of Israelis who had family and friends killed or taken hostage. It brought home the trauma of October 7th and the ongoing war to defend their country against barbaric terrorism. As a Christian, I count it a privilege to stand shoulder to shoulder with Jewish people in their grief. May the Lord, the God of Israel, comfort them and uphold them.

Psalm 121 (NKJV)

1 I will lift up my eyes to the hills—
From whence comes my help?

2 My help comes from the Lord,
Who made heaven and earth.

3 He will not allow your foot to be moved;
He who keeps you will not slumber.

4 Behold, He who keeps Israel
Shall neither slumber nor sleep.

5 The Lord is your keeper;
The Lord is your shade at your right hand.

6 The sun shall not strike you by day,
Nor the moon by night.

7 The Lord shall preserve you from all evil;
He shall preserve your soul.

8 The Lord shall preserve your going out and your coming in
From this time forth, and even forevermore.

 

[wing2000]

Hello folks. It has been 1 year since the start of the Israel-Hamas war. Which things do you want to be seen done on both sides? For myself as a pacifist, it would be nice if a country could charge Hamas for crimes, and place Hamas leaders in jail, for any Palestinian that is innocent (as in, not affiliated with a terror org) to relocate to Jordan for the time being until Hamas is removed from Palestine, and for Israel to remain safe, as Israel is the Holy Land. Once Hamas is weeded out, then the Palestinians can move back to Palestine. This process could take months.

Yes, that would be nice.
I'm afraid the plan you laid out is unrealistic.
Moving half a million people to Jordan to live in a refugee camp for months (if not longer) would be logistically challenging to say the least. Once more, Hamas is still actively operating in its vast tunnel system...a system that many time larger than the Israelis ever imagined. Recent reporting indicates they continue to manufacture weapons (rockets, IED's etc) and they have an endless supply of new recruits. It's a horrific situation that has no end in sight.

 

[AlexB23]

Yes, that would be nice.
I'm afraid the plan you laid out is unrealistic.
Moving half a million people to Jordan to live in a refugee camp for months (if not longer) would be logistically challenging to say the least. Once more, Hamas is still actively operating in its vast tunnel system...a system that many time larger than the Israelis ever imagined. Recent reporting indicates they continue to manufacture weapons (rockets, IED's etc) and they have an endless supply of new recruits. It's a horrific situation that has no end in sight.

Yeah, there is no good solution for this. There has got to be a way to collapse or fill in the Hamas tunnel system without harming civilians or building foundations above ground. If I was Jordan, I would suck it up, and hold 500,000 people for a few months, and then send them back to Gaza, but Jordan does not have a strong economy. The GDP of Jordan is only 20% that of Musk's net worth, at $50B/yr. That is not enough to help refugees for more than a short period of time.

Source:

Economy of Jordan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[AlexB23]

I attended a memorial service with the Jewish community yesterday where we heard some testimonies of Israelis who had family and friends killed or taken hostage. It brought home the trauma of October 7th and the ongoing war to defend their country against barbaric terrorism. As a Christian, I count it a privilege to stand shoulder to shoulder with Jewish people in their grief. May the Lord, the God of Israel, comfort them and uphold them.

Psalm 121 (NKJV)

1 I will lift up my eyes to the hills—
From whence comes my help?

2 My help comes from the Lord,
Who made heaven and earth.

3 He will not allow your foot to be moved;
He who keeps you will not slumber.

4 Behold, He who keeps Israel
Shall neither slumber nor sleep.

5 The Lord is your keeper;
The Lord is your shade at your right hand.

6 The sun shall not strike you by day,
Nor the moon by night.

7 The Lord shall preserve you from all evil;
He shall preserve your soul.

8 The Lord shall preserve your going out and your coming in
From this time forth, and even forevermore.

Amen to this verse. I made a devotional on Psalm 121 as well. This verse also applies to us Christians. God will stand by us no matter what happens. Just as God stands with Christians and the Jews, we must stand by our neighbors, especially the Jews. That is why I like how Pastor Saleem (an Arab Christian) stands by the Jews, as mentioned in my OP. It is good that you stood by the Jews as well. If even Arabs stand by the Jews, then it goes to show how imperative it is to end this war, and shut Hamas down for good. Kinda crazy how we as a society have advanced tech in 2024, but can not defeat an underground terror ring. We as a world should send some robots or drones down into those tunnels to spy on Hamas, and shut their system down.


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[stevevw]

Amen to this verse. I made a devotional on Psalm 121 as well. This verse also applies to us Christians. God will stand by us no matter what happens. Just as God stands with Christians and the Jews, we must stand by our neighbors, especially the Jews. That is why I like how Pastor Saleem (an Arab Christian) stands by the Jews, as mentioned in my OP. It is good that you stood by the Jews as well. If even Arabs stand by the Jews, then it goes to show how imperative it is to end this war, and shut Hamas down for good. Kinda crazy how we as a society have advanced tech in 2024, but can not defeat an underground terror ring. We as a world should send some robots or drones down into those tunnels to spy on Hamas, and shut their system down.


Withstanding Discouragement Devotional:

Withstanding Discouragement

Hello folks. Today's devotional covers how to weather discouragement. This one is for you, my brother, @Lost Witness . :) Date July 6, 2024 | Weathering Discouragement Verse Job 38:1; 8-11 (NIV): "Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. He said: “Who shut up the sea behind doors when...

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I think maybe Isreal is pretty close to weeding out all the terrorists in Gaza. Theres some strongholds but they are systematically choking them out and will soon take control. Then the repair can begin.

As they were dicovering the tunnels they found a bunch of them going in and coming from Egypt. So it is more complex then thought.

But they also have Hezbullah and Iran to deal with. Thats why I think they should concentrate on Hezbullah and Gaza and may get Gaza secured as then its islated and concentrate on the north where Hezbullah are attacking.

Maybe Egypt can help with the displaced Garzans in the south as its just over their border. But Isreal needs some support as they are getting it from all sides.

 

[RileyG]

Prayers for peace between Israel and Palestine.