Pagan holidays mixing with Christian ones

[Denadii]

What? Too many public holidays?

LOL Too much research on my part...I learned that Ishtar was celebrated for thousands of years before your religion started....As was Christmas...

 

[prodromos]

LOL Too much research on my part...I learned that Ishtar was celebrated for thousands of years before your religion started....As was Christmas...

What are your sources?

 

[Denadii]

What are your sources?

Good ones...Christian sources...I'm seventy years old..Old enough to know that one does not listen to fools.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

How many pagan traditions can you find in Christian ones? Hint: Halloween.

If the heart is innocent the party happening is innocent. You might as well avoid math because algebra is an arabic word.

 

[Denadii]

If the heart is innocent the party happening is innocent. You might as well avoid math because algebra is an arabic word.

So then, explain to me how you can Christianize the demonic and have it Christian. If the roots are rotten how can you have a heathy tree?
Matthew 7:17
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

 

[prodromos]

Good ones...Christian sources...I'm seventy years old..Old enough to know that one does not listen to fools.

Alexander Hislop?

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

So then, explain to me how you can Christianize the demonic and have it Christian. If the roots are rotten how can you have a heathy tree?
Matthew 7:17
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

One evil fruit is to see evil where there is innocence. You should stop seeing evil in harmless fun.

 

[Denadii]

Alexander Hislop?

Never heard of him.

 

[Denadii]

One evil fruit is to see evil where there is innocence. You should stop seeing evil in harmless fun.

Harmless fun.....Where is that? What celebration are you referring to?

 

[Blade]

How many pagan traditions can you find in Christian ones? Hint: Halloween.

Not sure why one would put Halloween and Christian together. Maybe someone heard the same young man on this Christian Station that plays the songs all the time. Said it was his best holiday. Praise GOD!

So.. what "spirit" as in demon, fallen angel and what human has more power then God? Well the great I am made the days so forth so on. We can find some awful evil thing on almost if not EVERY day of the year. So what? That has no power what so ever. Dec 25.. is the day many just SHOUT FOR JOY that Yeshua was born! And then Easter.. He rose. I can not speak for those that use that day or any other for things NOT of God. They don't answer to me. And nor do I tel them what they should do on holidays as the word tells me.

So.. for SOME they should not.. for SOME they can see it as sin. For THEM it is. Any time I mess up get wrong.. I gave my Father all the right to tell me change me 1st!

So.. sorry I can't find any. I will not give the enemy any glory or power he does not have.

 

[Denadii]

Not sure why one would put Halloween and Christian together. Maybe someone heard the same young man on this Christian Station that plays the songs all the time. Said it was his best holiday. Praise GOD!

So.. what "spirit" as in demon, fallen angel and what human has more power then God? Well the great I am made the days so forth so on. We can find some awful evil thing on almost if not EVERY day of the year. So what? That has no power what so ever. Dec 25.. is the day many just SHOUT FOR JOY that Yeshua was born! And then Easter.. He rose. I can not speak for those that use that day or any other for things NOT of God. They don't answer to me. And nor do I tel them what they should do on holidays as the word tells me.

So.. for SOME they should not.. for SOME they can see it as sin. For THEM it is. Any time I mess up get wrong.. I gave my Father all the right to tell me change me 1st!

So.. sorry I can't find any. I will not give the enemy any glory or power he does not have.

LOL

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Harmless fun.....Where is that? What celebration are you referring to?

I'm thinking of kids going door to door dressed up in costumes and getting candy . . . parties where people put on costumes and have fun together . . . churches having easter celebrations . . . christmas trees with presents for the whole family underneath . . .

 

[RadiantGrace]

How many pagan traditions can you find in Christian ones? Hint: Halloween.

That's a poorly worded question.

Holidays, created by Christians, can be celebrated in certain cultures with traditions that come from pagans. One thing people forget is not everyone celebrates holidays the same way even Christian holidays like Christmas and Easter.

There are simpletons that are convinced one or both of those holidays are pagan because of how it is celebrated in America, even if the rest of the non-Anglo Christian world doesn't celebrated it that way. Some people get confused when they learn most Christians don't have Christmas trees, or candy canes.

Thanksgiving in the United States was created by Christians, recalling Christian pilgrims and pagan Natives sharing a meal, using foods only consumed by pagans up to that point. Christians don't ramble on about Thanksgiving because it was created by Puritans, even though it was created by Puritans and Pagans.

Puritans rejected the concept of Holy Days. Christians throughout the world have a long history of celebrating Holy Days. Puritans rejected this as Popery. When Catholics arrived, Puritan, Baptists, and other children asked why they didn't have celebrations like their Catholic, Orthodox, Episcopal and other Christians neighbors. So, they lied. They said and spread the idea that other Christians created Holy Days by taking on pagan holidays.

The biggest holidays are Christmas and Easter and people repeat and further elaborate upon what originated as outright lies. It is repeated so much that people don't even want to bother refuting them.

Halloween is actually the least influenced by other cultures and it's not pagan. However, I fully expect to get a reply with a link or a youtube video from someone created by an uninformed, unintelligent, possible nut.

 

[RadiantGrace]

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I just want to give you a shout out for your H.R.E. avatar.

 

[prodromos]

Never heard of him.

Well you haven't offered anything else. I'm not psychic you know.

 

[Eloy Craft]

You need to investigate the celebtion of Easter (Ishtar) a bit deeper It was celebrated for thousands of years before Jesus rose from the dead

These are silly arguments that reverses the way language works. Whatever I call the celebration doesn't change what I'm celebrating. Another thing. When Christian missionary's went to other lands to spread the Gospel it wasn't in a spirit of changing their culture. Most cultures centuries, or millenia ago had a foundation of myth that gave their society stability and for themselves meaning.Some have a good measure of truth. Some not much and others have deep meaning and a measure of error. If the Truth belongs to you as a member of the body that Truth was given. The object of myth is truth. In the measure it is true it will point at it's true object. So the truth in myth,true will point to it's true object. Jesus is Truth. BTW If I call my celebration Easter I'm still celebrating the resurrection no matter what it's called. Whatever word I'm using it means what I use it for. Words migrate over time, it's the concepts that don't change. The concepts are symbolized by different words. That's what this easter argument pagan holiday The concept is the resurrection It might be called dweetha in a hundred years. What is celebrated will stay the same

 

[prodromos]

I'm still waiting to see how the claim that Ishtar was celebrated thousands of years ago in Mesopotamia, has anything to do with the celebration of Pascha (Also known as Easter in English and German).
What little is known about Ishtar is from the poem known as the Epic of Gilgamesh and another about her descent into Hades. Next to nothing is recorded about how she was celebrated, so I fail to see the connection that supposedly "good Christian sources" have made.

 

[Dkh587]

Christianity celebrates pagan holidays and rejects all of God's holy days.

It's quite backwards - they celebrate almost every pagan holiday which venerate other gods, but the holidays that venerate the God they claim to worship, they ignore and have nothing to do with them

 

[Choose Wisely]

Christmas is celebrated on 25th of December (the 12th month in the julian and gregorian calendar) because it is 9 months (guess why) after 25th of March, where the Annunciation was put.
Has nothing at all to do with Saturnia.

Really it's an argument brought forth by people who know not a thing about Church History and have not a single example for these "pagan roots" (Christmas trees came up first in Germany in 16th century, legend has it Luther. And even the most traditional Roman Catholic cannot deny that Germany during the reformation was a christian country)

So you think the Christmas tree came up first in Germany in the 16th century? I believe we can find the Christmas tree in the Bible long before the birth of Christ.

Jeremiah 10
3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

No offense but you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. You really need to educate yourself so that you might know the truth. The proof that you are wrong is right there in Jeremaih 10. By the sound of your answers it appears you are in the clergy as it would seem odd for a lay person to give that answer for why Christmas is on Dec 25th.

For anyone interested in the truth..........

*Christmas - Dec 25th - Birthday of Tammuz, The sun god, the reincarnated Nimrod.
*Valentines Day - The birthday of Nimrod. Nimrod is Osiris, Odin, Mithra, Zeus, Jupiter etc, etc, etc, etc
*Lent - 40 days of mourning the death of Tammuz. Tammuz is Horus, Thor, Apollo, Krishna etc, etc, etc, etc.
*Easter - Honoring Semiramis, the mother and wife of Nimrod. At her death she becomes Ishtar...who is also known as Isis....Madonna.....Diana....Venus......Ashtoreth.....Devaki.....Cybele etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.
*Thanksgiving - Honoring the goddess of the harvest Ceres with the festival Cerelia.......who also has many names as she is Semiramis. If you think the first Thanksgiving was celebrated in 1621 by the Pilgrims...........you are sadly mistaken.

God's chosen day of worship changed in 321AD from the Sabbath, to SUNday. The Lord's Day....Baal's Day. The venerable day of the sun by Constantine.

 

[Denadii]

One evil fruit is to see evil where there is innocence. You should stop seeing evil in harmless fun.

That's not what the Word says.