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Featured Pagan holidays mixing with Christian ones

Discussion in 'Christian History' started by mathinspiration, Jan 27, 2018.

  1. mathinspiration

    mathinspiration Member

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    How many pagan traditions can you find in Christian ones? Hint: Halloween.
     
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  2. Der Alter

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    Hint: All Hallow e(v)en is not and has never been a Christian holiday, holy day etc. And OBTW before you go there neither is Christmas or Easter.
     
  3. Denadii

    Denadii Well-Known Member

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    All of the traditional celebrations celebrated by Christians have pagan roots...It shows how decieved Christians are....Sadly
     
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  4. prodromos

    prodromos Senior Veteran Supporter

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    Nope
    It is those who believe the above who are deceived.
     
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  5. Denadii

    Denadii Well-Known Member

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    You have the right to believe what you will.
     
  6. Elect Souls Matter

    Elect Souls Matter New Member

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    It's a myth spread by atheists and anti-christians.
    Pagans had holidays every second day, and thats not a hyperbole.
    Halloween has christian roots, ALL HALLOWS EVE was celebrated in Ireland, transferred to America where it became the abomination we find today.
    Christmas is celebrated on 25th of December (the 12th month in the julian and gregorian calendar) because it is 9 months (guess why) after 25th of March, where the Annunciation was put.
    Has nothing at all to do with Saturnia.
    Easter is the first sunday after first spring full moon, therefore variable therefore no pagan roots whatsoever.
    All other important feasts i know of are variable in when they are celebrated depending on the easter date.

    Really it's an argument brought forth by people who know not a thing about Church History and have not a single example for these "pagan roots" (Christmas trees came up first in Germany in 16th century, legend has it Luther. And even the most traditional Roman Catholic cannot deny that Germany during the reformation was a christian country)

    But, the only thing Atheists, Anti-Christians and "Skeptics" can do is throw random accusations with nothing behind it. Do not fall for it!

    Have pagan traditions been integrated into Christianity? Yes, but thinking the Church of God got corrupted so early and fundamentally would be erroneous until proven.

    Who are the "Christians" you are talking of?
     
  7. Denadii

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    You need to investigate the celebtion of Easter (Ishtar) a bit deeper It was celebrated for thousands of years before Jesus rose from the dead
     
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  8. Francis Drake

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    Agreed. All so called Christian festivals are pagan based. So are most of the high offices of the church.

    I love the fact that the Pope wears a hat taken from Dagon the fish God of the Philistines. Lol
     
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  9. Elect Souls Matter

    Elect Souls Matter New Member

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    I don't know much about that, but pagans before Christ celebrated the death and resurrection of the god-son who then walked on earth 40 days and ascend into heaven?
    Didn't think so, but I guess you mean traditions from that celebration carried over? If so, what exactly? Fasting 40 days before? Not being allowed to dance in the Easter Week?
     
  10. Tutorman

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    as well as evangelicals who have no grasp of history but only hear an ignorant person from the pulpit spout misinformation
     
  11. Elect Souls Matter

    Elect Souls Matter New Member

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    Nice ad hominem, but unfortunately that does not qualify for a good argument
     
  12. prodromos

    prodromos Senior Veteran Supporter

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    I believe it because I have researched it and found the pagan roots propaganda to be just that.
     
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  13. Tutorman

    Tutorman Charismatic Episcopalian

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    It's not an ad hominem, many evangelicals have no idea about Church history including many times the pastor, so they just parrot someone else who says that all holidays are pagan without really knowing anything about the issue. Then they will fight tooth and nail to prove holidays are pagan
     
  14. Denadii

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    As I said...
     
  15. Athanasius377

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    I'm sorry to say the idea that Easter and Ishtar are linked is rubbish. Easter actually comes from the Germanic goddess Oestre in name only simply because there were feasts (plural) during the month on the pagan calendar approximating April according to Bede. The christian feast has etymological roots from Oestre, nothing more. In Germany Easter is known as Ostern. Just about everywhere else its called Pascha which comes from the Hebrew Pesach meaning "Passover". There is no credible evidence that Ishtar and Oestre are remotely related. Its no more sinister that having a day of the week named after Thor or a month named for Augustus Caesar (August). Some dullard with a fascination with Babylon invented this story decades ago and has been getting airplay ever since.
     
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  16. prodromos

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    To understand just how stupid this claim is, you need to realise that "Easter" is the Germanic name of the feast day while almost every other language group calls the feast "Pascha" or some derivative of it. English is a Germanic language. Next, Ishtar is an ancient Messopotamian goddess and whatever celebrations revolved around her cult are far removed from any pagan beliefs in Germany. There is absolutely no traceable link between Western German culture and the Middle East. Thirdly, the word Easter is derived from the Old Teutonic German word for "resurrection". Just to add, in several languages, the word for "rise" is the same as the word for "east", as in the sun "easts" in the morning and "wests" in the evening. The word "Oestre" has the same root as the Old Teutonic German "resurrection" and that is all that links them.

    But if you want to look like an idiot, by all means continue pushing the old fallacies.
     
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  17. prodromos

    prodromos Senior Veteran Supporter

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    The papal mitre has a clear history of development which has no connection to the fish God. That is something which can be confirmed with very little effort.
    Also, if you honestly believe the papal headgear looks anything like the pagan fish hats, I recommend you see an eye specialist.
     
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  18. Bob Crowley

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    Rubbish.

    Easter was and is based on the Jewish passover, since Christ was crucified on the Passover.

    Sunday, the first day of the week, was chosen as the day of worship by the early Christians for two reasons - first it was the day when Christ rose from the dead, and second, as the Jews became both enemies of Christianity and also politically estranged from Rome, they used Sunday as a way of dissociating themselves from the Jewish day of worship on the Sabbath (Saturday), so they wouldn't be seen as a Jewish sect.

    As for the Church establishing the date for Christmas, I suggest you read the following link, from which I extracted this paragraph.

    Christmas Was Never a Pagan Holiday by Marian T. Horvat

    To the best of my knowledge there are no other explicitly Christian public holidays, certainly not in Australia - just Easter and Christmas, with Sunday the long established day of worship for the great majority of Christian churches, except for Seventh Day Adventists, who think everybody else is wrong.

    All our other public holidays have secular origins.
     
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  19. Denadii

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    As I said....You can believe what you will. I won't speak against your religion, but I left it for very good reason.
     
  20. Bob Crowley

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    What? Too many public holidays?
     
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