Of course you know about the religious right...

[Bradskii]

I know you keep denying that it has been addressed by making posts like you just did.

Do you need me to spell it out for you again? If I do will you just continue to perpetuate a false representation?

Please don't waste my time. Thanks in advance.

 

[Tom8907]

As long as they believe in the Virgin Birth, the Trinity, that Christ shed his blood for believers on the cross and was raised on the third day.

A problem with the Christian left can be putting progressive social values over what God's word plainly states.

But yes as one site put it "Antifa agitator or hardcore Trumper, all belong in the body of Christ".

 

[rjs330]

Please don't waste my time. Thanks in advance.

That's what I figured. You'd rather perpetuate a false narrative.

 

[DJWhalen]

Please don't waste my time. Thanks in advance.

In my opinion.
Don't post, follow like I do and post very little.

 

[Bradskii]

In my opinion.
Don't post, follow like I do and post very little.

It is a forum. For the exchange of ideas. So generally I like to put my 2c in. In this case all the 2c over the months on this one aspect have added up to a few dollars yet the information is ignored. Not because it's wrong. But because it doesn't fit personal opinion.

So, in this case, I have better things to do than rummage around for yet another couple of cents. And welcome to the forum, DJ.

 

[rjs330]

It is a forum. For the exchange of ideas. So generally I like to put my 2c in. In this case all the 2c over the months on this one aspect have added up to a few dollars yet the information is ignored. Not because it's wrong. But because it doesn't fit personal opinion.

So, in this case, I have better things to do than rummage around for yet another couple of cents. And welcome to the forum, DJ.

As it turns out they have been counterfeit dollars.

 

[Bradskii]

As it turns out they have been counterfeit dollars.

Yet you can't find a single paper or article in the entire planet that says otherwise. That's a rejection of evidence on a galactic scale.

 

[rjs330]

Yet you can't find a single paper or article in the entire planet that says otherwise. That's a rejection of evidence on a galactic scale.

What are you talking about? We've bounced around from topic to topic, you're going to have to be more specific.

 

[BCP1928]

A problem with the Christian left can be putting progressive social values over what God's word plainly states.

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Or merely a differing opinion about what God's word "plainly states."

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

...but what about the Christian left?

Christian left leaders launch national campaign to mobilize voters ahead of 2024 election

Left-leaning religious and civil rights leaders have launched a 30-state campaign they say will wake the sleeping giant and mobilize over 15 million poor and low-income voters ahead of the 2024

www.christianpost.com

"The politics of Jesus is good news for the poor — healing to the broken," Barber told CP, noting that Christ called on his followers to serve the least of these.

"We're not telling people to vote for a party," Barber continued. "We're saying you must vote principle. You must examine politicians on where they stand in relationship to the poor, in relationship to the policies that would lift low-wage workers out of poverty."

Sounds like Gospel to me.

 

[Tom8907]

Or merely a differing opinion about what God's word "plainly states."

Justin Welby? Is that you?

 

[BCP1928]

Justin Welby? Is that you?

LOL!

 

[RoBo1988]

"The politics of Jesus is good news for the poor — healing to the broken," Barber told CP, noting that Christ called on his followers to serve the least of these.

"We're not telling people to vote for a party," Barber continued. "We're saying you must vote principle. You must examine politicians on where they stand in relationship to the poor, in relationship to the policies that would lift low-wage workers out of poverty."

Sounds like Gospel to me.

Gavin Newsome is lifting everyone except Panera bread employees

Panera Bread exempt from following California’s new minimum wage law due to relationship with Newsom: reports

Panera Bread is exempt from following one of California’s newest laws, according to multiple reports. The new law will raise fast-food workers’ minimum wage to $20 per hour and will take effe…

www.google.com

 

[Bradskii]

What are you talking about? We've bounced around from topic to topic, you're going to have to be more specific.

You can't follow a few simple posts? Despite myself I now actually have had to waste my time explaining what you have been discussing.

If only there was a word that describes how you consider yourself to be more feminine or masculine versus your biological sex...

You: Sigh.... I believe this has been addressed over and over and over again. I don't know why you keep missing it. Are you just ignoring it?

 

[rjs330]

Or merely a differing opinion about what God's word "plainly states."

No he's correct. There are things that Gods word plainly states. Or in some cases what it doesn't state. For example welfare and immigration laws. Many left leaning progressive socialist Christians attempt to use God's word to support these things. When the scriptures say nothing about these things from a governmental standpoint. It's not anti-biblical to not support welfare programs and it's not biblical to support them. The scripture is silent on the subject. So it's left up to the individual to support it or not based upon their own inclinations and political ideology.

 

[rjs330]

You can't follow a few simple posts? Despite myself I now actually have had to waste my time explaining what you have been discussing.


You: Sigh.... I believe this has been addressed over and over and over again. I don't know why you keep missing it. Are you just ignoring it?

Okay, then you are talking about gender. And has been discussed over and over again gender is sex. Sex is gender. Feminine or masculine refer to biological sex and what people in general think generally fits the biological sex. But that doesn't actually make you a man or a woman. Gender roles refer to sexual roles. Women cook, men mow the yard. But what if a man likes to cook? Or a woman likes to mow the yard. Is that man no longer male and the woman no longer female? If course not. Gender has not been used to these days to simply describe these things. It has been used to determine if a person IS a man or IS a woman. That's how you end up with men in women's sports or women's locker rooms or demanding we use women's pronouns. Or teaching boys can be girls.

Biologically that's an impossibility. What boys like to do and what girls like to do simply is a matter of individual personalities and has nothing to do with if you are a boy or a girl.

Why do keep ignoring this? If a person has GD they are not referencing a personal like or dislike. They are referencing biological sex. They believe they ARE the opposite biological sex. But the gender ideologists say that's gender which is different than sex. But the fact the person with GD thinks they are the opposite sex is the evidence that gender is sex and sex is gender. There is no way to define gender without using biological sex.

Why you keep ignoring this is beyond me.

 

[BCP1928]

Okay, then you are talking about gender. And has been discussed over and over again gender is sex. Sex is gender. Feminine or masculine refer to biological sex and what people in general think generally fits the biological sex. But that doesn't actually make you a man or a woman. Gender roles refer to sexual roles. Women cook, men mow the yard. But what if a man likes to cook? Or a woman likes to mow the yard. Is that man no longer male and the woman no longer female? If course not. Gender has not been used to these days to simply describe these things. It has been used to determine if a person IS a man or IS a woman. That's how you end up with men in women's sports or women's locker rooms or demanding we use women's pronouns. Or teaching boys can be girls.

I have bolded that part for your consideration. Here is something else for your consideration: Contemplate the following condition in a child: "...a fearful rejection of oneself imposed by attitudes of parents and friends and the larger society....and a denial of oneself as the result."

Do you think that condition should be tolerated or ignored, maybe even punished because of what people in general think generally fits the biological sex?

Why do keep ignoring this? If a person has GD they are not referencing a personal like or dislike. They are referencing biological sex. They believe they ARE the opposite biological sex. But the gender ideologists say that's gender which is different than sex. But the fact the person with GD thinks they are the opposite sex is the evidence that gender is sex and sex is gender. There is no way to define gender without using biological sex.

Why you keep ignoring this is beyond me.

Yes, actual gender dysphoria is a separate issue. We're not ignoring it. At this point it's not even part of the discussion, and when it does become part of the discussion you will learn that many of us deplore the way it is currently being diagnosed and treated.

 

[BCP1928]

No he's correct. There are things that Gods word plainly states. Or in some cases what it doesn't state. For example welfare and immigration laws. Many left leaning progressive socialist Christians attempt to use God's word to support these things. When the scriptures say nothing about these things from a governmental standpoint. It's not anti-biblical to not support welfare programs and it's not biblical to support them. The scripture is silent on the subject. So it's left up to the individual to support it or not based upon their own inclinations and political ideology.

That means that there is no religious argument against government welfare, either.

 

[BPPLEE]

That means that there is no religious argument against government welfare, either.

2Th 3:10 - For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.

 

[BCP1928]

2Th 3:10 - For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.

That was back during socialist times when the workers owned the means of production. Now it's this: "If we will not do you the favor of giving you a job, you will not eat."