Of course you know about the religious right...

[BPPLEE]

That was back during socialist times when the workers owned the means of production. Now it's this: "If we will not do you the favor of giving you a job, you will not eat."

No one ever gave me a job. I had to look for it, apply, interview and then they made me an offer.
No one just gave it to me
They don’t give me a paycheck either. I earn it

 

[BCP1928]

No one ever gave me a job. I had to look for it, apply, interview and then they made me an offer.

In other words, they were the ones who made the decision to employ you. Paul's admonition was to work. Having to be employed first adds something to it not in the Bible.

No one just gave it to me
They don’t give me a paycheck either. I earn it

By being employed, not just by working.

 

[BPPLEE]

In other words, they were the ones who made the decision to employ you. Paul's admonition was to work. Having to be employed first adds something to it not in the Bible.

By being employed, not just by working.

There have been times when I had my own businesses and made money by working.
I was self employed and yes I got paid for working

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

Yeah they get surprised I'm poor too. I think they've decided conservatives are rich or something. Lol..

No, I know Conservatives can be poor. Some use the system, do drugs and have abortion. I've never understand, why they vote against themselves.

 

[BCP1928]

There have been times when I had my own businesses and made money by working.
I was self employed and yes I got paid for working

And other times when you had to ask for a favor in order to work. In your own business if you weren't working it was up to you. You had freedom to work or not so if you didn't work it was your fault. An employee works or not at the pleasure of his employer.

 

[Bradskii]

Okay, then you are talking about gender. And has been discussed over and over again gender is sex. Sex is gender.

Please stop wasting my time. And yours, truth be told.

 

[BPPLEE]

And other times when you had to ask for a favor in order to work. In your own business if you weren't working it was up to you. You had freedom to work or not so if you didn't work it was your fault. An employee works or not at the pleasure of his employer.

No.. The employer can’t make anyone work for them. People do it voluntarily. No one can force you to work in this country And I never had to ask anyone for a favor to be able to work. Work was available if I was willing to do it. I didn’t need any favors
I work for my employer at my pleasure. If they don’t provide what I require I will go to work somewhere else that does.

 

[BCP1928]

No.. The employer can’t make anyone work for them. People do it voluntarily. No one can force you to work in this country And I never had to ask anyone for a favor to be able to work. Work was available if I was willing to do it. I didn’t need any favors
I work for my employer at my pleasure. If they don’t provide what I require I will go to work somewhere else that does.

Never mind that. My point was that the nature of work has changed since Paul's day. The bottom line is I would be more inclined to agree with that passage from Paul if it said, "Work or be willing to work."

 

[BPPLEE]

Never mind that. My point was that the nature of work has changed since Paul's day. The bottom line is I would be more inclined to agree with that passage from Paul if it said, "Work or be willing to work."

Work is available for anyone who wants to work. It may not be what they want to do, it may not pay as much as they would like and they may feel it’s beneath their skill set but work is available for anyone who really wants to work.

 

[BCP1928]

Work is available for anyone who wants to work. It may not be what they want to do, it may not pay as much as they would like and they may feel it’s beneath their skill set but work is available for anyone who really wants to work.

On your planet, maybe, but here on Earth things are different.

 

[BPPLEE]

On your planet, maybe, but here on Earth things are different.

No, they’re really not.

 

[BCP1928]

No, they’re really not.

Well, if believing that helps you to oppose welfare, I guess that's what you will have to believe. Good luck.

 

[BPPLEE]

Well, if believing that helps you to oppose welfare, I guess that's what you will have to believe. Good luck.

I didn’t say I oppose welfare.

 

[DaisyDay]

Shaking your bum is not appropriate for young children

Do the Hokey pokey and you turn yourself around, that's what it's all about!

 

[rjs330]

Do you think that condition should be tolerated or ignored, maybe even punished because of what people in general think generally fits the biological sex?

If a girl wants to play with trucks or play baseball we shouldn't care. Let her be. Don't sit there and b "oh my gosh, she's a boy! Let:s tell her she's really a boy."

No she's not. She's a girl who like trucks and baseball. So what? It's her personality. Let like what she wants.

 

[wing2000]

Do the Hokey pokey and you turn yourself around, that's what it's all about!

It's only a matter of time before the Hokey Pokey is banned too....for....reasons.

 

[rjs330]

I have bolded that part for your consideration. Here is something else for your consideration: Contemplate the following condition in a child: "...a fearful rejection of oneself imposed by attitudes of parents and friends and the larger society....and a denial of oneself as the result."

Do you think that condition should be tolerated or ignored, maybe even punished because of what people in general think generally fits the biological sex?

Yes, actual gender dysphoria is a separate issue. We're not ignoring it. At this point it's not even part of the discussion, and when it does become part of the discussion you will learn that many of us deplore the way it is currently being diagnosed and treated.

Yes it is a separate issue, but it's being treated as if it's not. That's how you get an explosion in gender clinics and kids claiming they are trans. Real trans people are the one who are dysphoric. We also had an explosion in so called genders such as a gender or gender fluid. All that really is is people saying they don't fit a stereotype. But so what? It still doesn't mean you are not the sex you were born as. Just cause you a bay who likes to sew doesn't mean you get to play on the girls basketball team. You are not a girl. You are simply a boy who likes to sew. People have all kinds of different personalities with their own likes and dislikes. I love to build things. I don't enjoy hunting. I like to cook in the kitchen.
My wife loves to mow the lawn. So? That's our personalities. My gender is still male and hers is still female.

And when it comes to kids it is particularly dangerous. Because we are plying them with indoctrination, irreversible drugs and shipping them down the toad on the trans train when they atr most vulnerable to suggestion and influence and prone to make emotional and irrational decisions.

 

[rjs330]

That means that there is no religious argument against government welfare, either.

Correct. Did you think there was?

 

[The Barbarian]

I'd rather that folks be familiar with the trans community and their ideology if they're going to defend it.

I'm just pointing out that all humans have the same rights. I don't have to like them or even understand them, in order to realize this.

 

[The Barbarian]

Children are statistically safer around transvestites than they are are around ministers, because the data indicate that transvestites are less likely to be pedophiles.

No, you don't get it.

I did safety engineering for a bit. And you don't get it. Perfect safety is not achievable, but you can minimize hazards in a rational way. For some reason, that bothers you.

Once you have made the first wicked lifestyle choice (to be gay or trans or whatever) you have repudiated Christian moral compass and the next wicked lifestyle choice becomes easier and it's a slippery slope leading right to pedophilia.

The actual data don't show that. If anything, they show you have it backwards. Turns out transvestites are less likely to be pedophiles than the population as a whole.