OCD is destroying my faith... HELP!

[TheWorriedOne]

Well my fear is sort of weird like I'll feel myself seeming to accept the doubts then be scared that I'm "accepting" them.

 

[raven1]

I do the same thing.

 

[cmsracing]

Yes but u can't know 100 percent for sure your ocd is causing you to doubt.

Yes, I can know 100% it's the OCD. God has dealt with me many times in my life over certain things, and he didn't do it by causing me to doubt him or confusing me. God is all powerful, he doesn't need smoke and mirrors or fear tactics to get his message across. These fears and doubts are 180 degrees opposed to what God would have you feel.

 

[raven1]

I don't buy it. I think I am just in unbelief. I don't think there is any way to know. Christianity is dying out many people doubt
we can't possibly know who's is caused by chemical imbalance or unbelief if we had thst kind of technology we wound probably be able to telepathically get ourselves to the moon.

 

[TheWorriedOne]

CMS Racing did you understand what I meant in my last post did you have problems like that? I'm worried my doubts will lead me to unbelief. And Raven I know I'm not in the best spot to be exactly giving advice since we're both in similar situations but stop worrying and think a second and lay out the facts of the Bible.
1. 2nd Peter 2:39 says God wishes no one would perish but for everyone to come to repentance So God wants you he wants everyone.
2.You must believe even through your doubts because you truly want to believe. That shows you must be saved. Atheists don't care and dont want to believe if this leads to you questioning your want to believe don't listen to it it's your OCD trying to survive basically it clings to anything it can to make you worry.
3. Think about the dying theif on the cross he was saved in his dying moments, "Luke 23:43" his faith was probably so small or he may not have even been sure if he believed since he was in his dying moments but since he wanted and depended on God to save him.
4. Lot's of famous Christians have doubted some without OCD so God sees you and I both have OCD so he's going to understand our doubt because we can't control it.
Like I said you desiring God shows you ARE saved! I know this all may be hypocritical coming from me but that is what I can tell when I read your posts on here. What I TRY to do is ignore it and do something fun keep myself busy and only pray at night but it's extremely hard. Oh and everybody what my OCD is doing is making me worry I'll doubt so much and lose my desire to believe.

 

[raven1]

I know worried one but I can't know 100 percent. I doubt God exists because I cannot know for sure. I need to see him. I also can't know 100 percent that there is nothing to worry about and I am saved.

 

[TheWorriedOne]

Ok well think about the thief on the crosses situation he was saved within his dying moments so think about his situation really close. He was obviously a nonbeliever most of his life so when he was saved within moments of his death I don't really think he would be sure of anything except that he wanted God to save him. He probably wasn't even sure a god exsisted in his dying moments because he probably didn't give it too much thought. But Jesus himself said he was saved. Some of the greatest Christian figures in the world doubted and they were saved. Raven1 you are clinging to your faith right now you want it so bad as do I so God isn't going to hold doubt against you especially since you can't control it! I mean God wants you and you want him he won't hold your doubt against you because you want him!

 

[cmsracing]

WorriedOne, yes I have had the same feelings as you, the hopelessness, the doubts, the fears of unbelief.
And your explanation to Raven1 is spot on. Claim that for yourself.
And your not losing your desire to believe, what your feeling is exhaustion from the battle your in.
One more question for Raven1 out of curiousity and I'll leave you alone. If you think your just in unbelief, why do you care about this? Unbelievers don't struggle with this. They don't care.

 

[TheWorriedOne]

Exactly what CMS racing said if you tried to tell an unbeliever God is real they would fight you 'till the bitter end to "prove" he doesn't exist. You want to believe an unbeliever couldn't want not because it's necessarily out of their ability but because they don't want to believe for some reason.

 

[raven1]

I am not saying your right or I am right. I am just saying. Who can really now.

 

[TheWorriedOne]

I know I just want you to know you're saved! The Bible says whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

 

[raven1]

I appreciate although I don't believe it ex specially since I feel adoration type feelings for athiest.

 

[TheWorriedOne]

My OCD does that all the time and it is confusing I'm kind of dealing with it right now. But we both want to be saved therefore we are.

 

[Christian-Catholic]

Ok well think about the thief on the crosses situation he was saved within his dying moments so think about his situation really close. He was obviously a nonbeliever most of his life so when he was saved within moments of his death I don't really think he would be sure of anything except that he wanted God to save him. He probably wasn't even sure a god exsisted in his dying moments because he probably didn't give it too much thought. But Jesus himself said he was saved. Some of the greatest Christian figures in the world doubted and they were saved. Raven1 you are clinging to your faith right now you want it so bad as do I so God isn't going to hold doubt against you especially since you can't control it! I mean God wants you and you want him he won't hold your doubt against you because you want him!

BRAVOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Worried one, I believe you got it
I wish I had that kind of wisdom at your age, but i was a self obsorbed dofus lol

 

[Christian-Catholic]

I appreciate although I don't believe it ex specially since I feel adoration type feelings for athiest.

Raven, if you want to see atheists look like fools, just take a look at the shroud of turin. I studied it for 2 years and I start laughing at the conspiracy theorist ideas being pulled out against it by skeptics. They claim to be smarter and they claim to love science but watch how they go completly against science and peer reviewed research when the shroud comes up. Atheists act like they are smarter and love science until it goes against their worldviews.

The empty tomb is considered to be a historic fact by even most atheist new testament scholars and once you have that empty tomb the only reasonable explanation is the resurrection.

Raven , God knows your hearts desires and worriedone hit it RIGHT ON THE MARK when he talked about the thief taking that leap of faith even with doubts. We allknow how Jesus responded to him. Imagine how he will respond to all of us when we come at the foot of his cross.

He loves worriedone, he loves you, he loves me so much and he loves us all. YOu even open the door a little and he will crash that door down.
His love is beyond our full understanding but im sure glad he has that kind of love for us.

 

[raven1]

I don't understand this. I swear it has to be worse than having split personality at least they are dissociating.

 

[Christian-Catholic]

I don't understand this. I swear it has to be worse than having split personality at least they are dissociating.

Raven, this is the problem with OCD and believe me I went through it and still go through it. With OCD we feel that we need to understand everything 100% to believe in it. God is the all powerfull all knowing IAM.
IF we understood him fully would he be a God worth worshipping, adoring and deserving of all our love?

Do I have 100% lab tested scientific proof that my parents love me? HECK NO, but we sense that within our heart. Its a personal experience that cant be bottled up from a lab. With scrupulosity it takes what is easy for most people to believe and turns it completely against you. Its very devious and tricky (remind you of a certain demon?).

Think of yourself in a room that was completely filled with Light that God brought but now is a bit dark, You dont know when that light is coming back in, but take that leap even in darkness and say "Lord im scared and its so dark in here, but I trust in your nature and I will be patient for that light to start coming back slowly"

If you read in the bible Jesus said that he has never let one of his sheep slipthrough his hands. His sheep are anyone that desires him.
Knock and that door will be open, seek and you will find" He didnt say only a few will have that door opened to them. HE said "all who seek will find"
The keyword is ALLLLLLL

 

[raven1]

My biggest fear is that it isn't though. There are several people at my work that doubt who can we know has ocd and doesn't.

 

[cmsracing]

My biggest fear is that it isn't though. There are several people at my work that doubt who can we know has ocd and doesn't.

Not everyone who doubts has OCD. Most lost people doubt because they don't care, or they love their sinful ways. Or they've never really had anybody share the gospel with them. Some people who are saved doubt their salvation, usually because of sin in their lives, and they don't have OCD. Those people just need to study the word of God to understand their relationship with God and the security of it. Then there is the OCD Christian who is just consumed with their doubts and are bombarded with excessive and intrusive thoughts. They will talk to anyone who will listen and search and search the scriptures, still not finding peace. They are at the point where this is the focus of their life (sound like anyone you know?). That is how you know if it's OCD or not.

 

[TheWorriedOne]

My OCD was bothering me too today horribly. Like I didnt have any thoughts but I felt separarted from God and it bothered me. Do you know what I mean? Did any of you still experience anxiety without thoughts? Then I had atheistic thoughts and I hate them! I want God but I'm tired of these thoughts going to my head making sense, making it harder for me to believe and causing me anxiety.