OCD is destroying my faith... HELP!

[kodadog1024]

Raven, not to be mean, really, but what are you doing to help yourself, other than being on these forums, cross-debating any input and or advise anyone gives you? All your saying is "what if I doubt, what if I don't believe, what if, what if, what if.... Like I said, God could beat you over the head with a 2 by 4, say He is the maker of the Universe, and you'd probably still doubt His existence. It's OCD. It's the doubting disease. You know what your doubts and fears are ... so go do something about it. Many of us gave you some positive solutions to implement. It may not be easy, BUT you can do it!! But you have to WANT to do it. It's easy to stay in these forums, seeking reassurance, doubting, staying scarred, being in a comfort zone. It takes action to overcome what scares you most, ie; switching up your daily routine and asking yourself what works and what doesn't. Taking the right medication, working out, reading the Bible, joining a support group, etc, etc. In the end, no one will ever give you an answer to satisfy your doubt. You have to overcome it, live with it and adapt to it.

 

[raven1]

How do I live with it and adapt to it. There is no way OCD causes u to doubt God exists. There used to be a guy on here he told me that
He was rude and mean to me but that statement does make sense.

 

[kodadog1024]

How do I live with it and adapt to it. There is no way OCD causes u to doubt God exists. There used to be a guy on here he told me that
He was rude and mean to me but that statement does make sense.

Do you understand what you just wrote there? ^ OCD causes you to doubt anything... Christ, God, Heaven, Hell, whether you will die from aids, even though you've lived in a bubble all your life, whether your a monster because your bombarded by intrusive thoughts day in and day out, maybe you'll die from touching the door knob... or maybe you'll go to Hell because you don't believe.


















Or maybe deep down in your heart, you already know you love Christ and you've been saved a long time ago. Your mind might never let go of that fear, that doubt. What doesn't change is that you love ice skating in God's arms, and that makes you happy. That is true, that you believe and makes you happy.

 

[TheWorriedOne]

Thats another thing I worry about KerrySue I mean how can I know this is OCD and not real doubt I mean I feel like m rising it all by blanking doubt being OCD and not real doubt. You know what I mean? I'm sorry for sounding pessimistic I just wanted to be honest.

 

[kerrysue]

Raven, you do believe (choice, not a feeling) or you wouldn't even be on here trying to get help. It also takes faith to believe God does not exist, in fact a lot more faith. Right now you just can't reason any of this stuff out, it only makes things worse. But it can't hurt to at least get medicines and therapy and see what you think after that, right?

 

[TheWorriedOne]

Could you answer mybquestion Kerry Sue? How can I know this is OCD doubt and not real doubt because I feel like I'm risking it all blaming it on OCD because if its not I could go to Hell couldn't I? Sorry about the last post auto-correct messed it up.

 

[kerrysue]

Worried One, who cares what kind of doubt it is? It is obviously consuming your thoughts as you are on here so much and that right there shows that you are obssessing. Do you know anyone else that worries so much about this kind of thing? Getting help medically and with therapy will just help you to see the truth and then you won't struggle so with doubts, whether they are real ones or OCD ones!

 

[kerrysue]

Worried One, we must be on here at the same time I guess what I wrote before tells you that I had the exact same thoughts. The fear that getting help will somehow keep you from realizing the truth is obviously an ocd thing. Now it sounds crazy to me but then it made sense like it does to you. Like Kodadog is saying to you and Raven, you both need to get therapy and medicines that are working for you before you can "see" things correctly and until then, it won't help to keep questioning. I am praying for you and Raven both and would love to hear you are taking steps to get the help you need.

 

[TheWorriedOne]

Alright I'll get help. But I have one more question am I saved because I want to be saved and I'm asking God to save me regardless of these doubts and feelings of disbelief in God?

 

[TheWorriedOne]

Oh the doubts are doubts of God's existence.

 

[kerrysue]

Yes, yes, yes, Worried One! If you want to be saved, that right there is the Holy Spirit working in you! In our natural sinful selves we would not even have that desire That also was something that helped me as I was healing. And Raven, I don't know who told you that not believing God exists was not OCD, but like Kodadog said, all the books/medical info on OCD will tell you it is just whatever fear you are obssessing on--and usually the things we obssess on are the exact things that underneath we really, really want to believe or that are most important to us. You need to read up on OCD itself and not go by what we are all saying--get your info from doctors and pyschiatrists who have studied the brain. I would love to hear you both are getting help and seeing light at the end of the tunnel Love & prayers...

 

[raven1]

Sometimes for a couple of seconds I get excited about athiesm. See if we doubt but choose in case but not because we think Christianity makes more sense that is pascals wager.

 

[dabro]

I've never experience what you go thru but, I have had some anxiety provking thoughts too. Some times we have to reach out of the box and get some type of mental treatment. I take meds for my OCD and it waxes and wanes but I really havn't dealy with it extremeli in awhile. Just keep on the good fight of faith and seek out some resources that will help you in the fight.

 

[TheWorriedOne]

Thanks for the reply KerrySue!!! But when I read it my OCD changed to me doubting if I want to be saved does that make sense? Would your OCD change up on you to keep you worrying?

 

[kerrysue]

Exactly what I am trying to tell you, Worried One--I even thot of that when I was writing my last post--that now you would say you are afraid you don't really want to be saved. I did that all the time. And Raven, you are doing the same thing, just picking on some other little thread of what someone here is saying and then you are thinking that is what you now believe or don't believe. OCD!!! Those are clear signs that that is exactly what you both have!

 

[TheWorriedOne]

So basically OCD is trying to do everything it can to make me doubt my faith in Gof? And me "not knowing" if I want to be saved is OCD? Because itvseems like now I'm worried abut this and not even doubting God's existence. So I still really am saved? it seems like whenever I get good news saying I'm saved because of this I start to doubt that.

 

[TheWorriedOne]

Can someone please help me well first of all I go see the doctor the 25th. Anyways when I was born I suffered a stroke that gave me mild cerebral palsy and I can't really use my left hand which prevents me from doing things I would like to not necessities but more extra cirricualar hobby stuff. Well this past hour I've been down in the dumps upset and angry asking God why he did this to me why he made me like this then I question why a God that loves me would do this to me. Which bothers me even more because I'm not trusting God and my stupid OCD won't leave me alone and it feels like it's turning me into an unbeliever.

 

[kerrysue]

Worried One, good news that you are going to the doctor on the 25th and I would recommend telling the doctor about these conversations on here even and your worries, depression, etc. If the doctor isn't one that has much experience in OCD, he/she might know one who does. Depression is usually related to OCd and common for the two to go together. Read the Psalms--memorize Psalm 139 and fill your mind with Scripture these days.

 

[lilipunzel]

For a Christian with OCD, praying can actually make it worse. The praying can turn into a compulsion and make the OCD worse. If you have OCD and want to pray,create a time every day perhaps once a day where you will pray for a limted amount of time. No praying at any other time. It is imp[ortant to stay very structured otherwise you will create compulsions that make things worse. Please read Stop Obsessing by Edna Foa. It will help you to understand the disorder of OCD better and how ot treat it.

 

[TheWorriedOne]

I'm so confused this OCD keeps making it harder and harder to connect with God and believe in him so how can I still believe in him and be saved?