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Noah's Ark

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What would your god do?
I don't think he posted what group he is in, but someone probably has recognized it by now if they read many of his posts... it(the group) is uniquely(different than other groups) opposed to YHWH and contrary to YHWH'S WORD (The Bible) / contradicting TRUTH every day.
 
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What would your god do? send men, women and children to kill soldiers while instructing them to let the little virgin children wander around the deserts and hills homeless?You lost me on that one. :scratch:

What's it like having to make excuses for pedophiles and murderers????

"Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." (Numbers 31:16-18)


The true God never sent anyone to kill anyone. Like modern day ISIS who commit atrocities and claim God lead them to do so when in fact it was their own murderous hearts projected onto their primitive concept of deity.
 
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And what do you do when you can't reason with facts?

Petition the government to remove them from public view?
Facts are what they are, you've been taught to be suspicious of things which conflict with the teachings of your religion.

I've never petitioned the government to remove anything from public view, again that's the suspicion breading effect of your leader.
 
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Sure. Roughly speaking the flood took five months (150 days) to reach 8000-12,000 feet altitude (plus an extra 22 feet just to make sure), about 3 feet per hour, or about .6 inches per minute; hardly a 'gulley washer'. It is very doubtful that man had lived above that altitude as all sorts of health problems would occur due to lack of oxygen.

Funny you should mention that:
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/07/tibetans-inherited-high-altitude-gene-ancient-human

Tibetans, by the way, live at 10.000 feet and higher up.

Also, the oldest high-altitude human settlements are in the Andes and are found at an altitude of around 15.000 feet. These settlements existed some 12.000 years ago.

Oldest High-Altitude Human Settlement Discovered in Andes

It seems that once again, unsurprisingly, your stories do not hold up against the facts of reality.
 
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The true God never sent anyone to kill anyone.
Still trying to figure out what "true God" you serve, contrary to the Bible,
and who teaches about that "true God" you serve. (with obvious differences opposed to Scripture)
 
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There is a logical explanation for the flood story. Are you ready?

The authors of Genesis were attempting to trace their blood lines back to Adam who they assumed was the first human. Unable to do so they decided to just drown the entire earth in it's own wickedness to fill the gap.

* Bloodlines were all about authority in that age.


Or we could go with the obvious thingy and say that the authors of Genesis were familiar with the epic of gilgamesh and "borrowed" the flood story.
 
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I don't think he posted what group he is in, but someone probably has recognized it by now if they read many of his posts... it(the group) is uniquely(different than other groups) opposed to YHWH and contrary to YHWH'S WORD (The Bible) / contradicting TRUTH every day.
Colter is in the Urantia cult, and, thank God, is seeking Christianity.
 
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But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." (Numbers 31:16-18)
Kill them too?

Would that be your advice?

Let them starve? die of thirst? die of exposure? get eaten alive?

Any suggestions?
 
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Funny you should mention that:
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/07/tibetans-inherited-high-altitude-gene-ancient-human

Tibetans, by the way, live at 10.000 feet and higher up.

Also, the oldest high-altitude human settlements are in the Andes and are found at an altitude of around 15.000 feet. These settlements existed some 12.000 years ago.

Oldest High-Altitude Human Settlement Discovered in Andes

It seems that once again, unsurprisingly, your stories do not hold up against the facts of reality.

How were these settlements dated? Regardless; the flood reached everyone.
 
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Kill them too?

Would that be your advice?

Let them starve? die of thirst? die of exposure? get eaten alive?

Any suggestions?
My suggestion would be not to commit genocide or take the little virgin children and rape them. Then I would suggest that they not claim God condoned their evil behavior by writing as if God were speaking.

As for you I would suggest you stop disgracing yourself any further by squirming around to defend it.
 
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Or we could go with the obvious thingy and say that the authors of Genesis were familiar with the epic of gilgamesh and "borrowed" the flood story.

Or vice-versa? I think it is more probable that the many stories of great floods originated with Noah's flood.
 
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How were these settlements dated?
Hang a calender on the wall,
and throw darts at random,
to simulate the effects of mankind with all of its "wisdom", so-called.
(actually,
probably,
this would produce better results than society has so far)
 
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My suggestion would be not to commit genocide or take the little virgin children and rape them.
What kind of outfit are you leading that you have to give them a pep talk like that?

Would your suggestions be in spite of their protocol, or with respect to it?
 
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Hang a calender on the wall,
and throw darts at random,
to simulate the effects of mankind with all of its "wisdom", so-called.
(actually,
probably,
this would produce better results than society has so far)

True, and the more people and events that 'predate' Genesis the more likely people will be deceived. Great tactic. We only need to observe the incredible changes that take place in our own lifetimes to realize the speed with which societal and environmental changes occur.
 
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Tell me, chief, if the universe is the history of God, what does the universe say God's name is?

I don't think you'll like his answer. It'll be a bit more esoteric than your taste would seem to demand.

According to the stars and planets ... and you can throw in SN1987A for kicks ... how many disciples did Jesus have, and what are their names?

So are you a dadaist? This sort of question seems pretty absurdist.

According to the Laws of Thermodynamics, how long was Jesus in Hell, and why did He go there?

Let's assume we have a Jesus that has mass of 65kg and we have a Hell that is operating at a steady temperature of 2000degC. ....

According to Buoyancy Laws, can anyone ... anyone ... ever walk on water?

In the magic of books they can!

What color was the curtain that hung over the entrance to the Tabernacle in the Wilderness, according to light spectrum analysis?

That's silly! Anyone who's studied color theory knows that color is not simply the spectral analysis of the reflected or transmitted light. You should have asked what was the L*a*b* value of the curtain.

According to plate tectonics, were there any earthquakes in Elijah's time?

If the answer is "no" then the Earth had died. But since the earth is currently tectonically active I will assume the answer is "yes"

Explain the Rapture, using the Law of Gravity.

F=GmM/r^2

The force pulling the Saved up into heaven will have to overcome the force due to gravity of the earth. Since the force your body has pulling down on it is F=ma where a=g (9.8m/s^2) the force lifting the people up to heaven will have to be greater than the force holding them down onto the earth.

According to immoral amoral science, what is the Holy Bible?

Oh c'mon, just call it immoral. Most scientists go into the lab in order to have pansexual perverted orgies and if they get any science done it's only because they had to take a breather from all the sin.

Was Jonah swallowed by a whale, or a camel, according to dietary studies?

A camel. A SEA CAMEL.

According to thin layer chromatography, was water turned to wine at Cana or Capernaum?

Why not just go with LC (Liquid Chromatography)?

When is our next scheduled trip back in time, according to your decimal-moving pilots?

ANY TIME YOU WALK OUTSIDE. You just have to look down at the ground. It will tell you a lot.
 
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How were these settlements dated?

In the same way that everything else is dated - including the dating of things you do accept whenever you can fit them in your a prior beliefs.

Regardless; the flood reached everyone.

"I'm right, even when I'm shown wrong!!"

The flood numbers you gave, aren't nearly high enough to reach the ancient settlements in the Andes.

Literally nothing about your flood story holds up.
 
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What kind of outfit are you leading that you have to given them a pep talk like that?

Would your suggestions be in spite of their protocol, or with respect to it?
I would have the courage to provide moral leadership.

Theses atrocities committed in the name of God were strictly human in nature. The authors of the scripture justified their behavior by suggesting God lead them to commit these crimes.
 
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