Noah's Ark

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Teach...Creationism?

Raise up a child in the way he should go,
and he will not depart from it when he is older.

mankind: fail

elect: hope for salvation

 

[Cearbhall]

Raise up a child in the way he should go,
and he will not depart from it when he is older.

Anyone who is "older" should be well-aware that people aren't that simple.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Anyone who is "older" knows that this isn't how reality works.

Amazing how "older" in the world almost never means "wiser" nor "saved".

Those who abide in YHWH know as HE SAYS:

1 Corinthians 2:13Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

13 These are the things we are talking about when we avoid the manner of speaking that human wisdom would dictate and instead use a manner of speaking taught by the Spirit, by which we explain things of the Spirit to people who have the Spirit.

 

[Colter]

Well, for the record ... and I've said this here more than once ... one thing God can do is take a handful of people, if not all of them, back in time to 4004 BC and show them the creation week in real time.

Science has already taken us back in time using a number of proven dating techniques. As we suspected, the Holywood version of Israelite history was nowhere to be found.

 

[Colter]

If it's so clear, why do you need to spend money learning what the earth is telling you?

For me I'm studying the works of God, the history of his creation. I'm not part of a social institution that has a financial and egotistical motive for keeping me stupid disguised as faith.

 

[AV1611VET]

Science has already taken us back in time using a number of proven dating techniques.

How many times?

 

[Colter]

"Faith has falsified its trust when it presumes to deny realities and to confer upon its devotees assumed knowledge. Faith is a traitor when it fosters betrayal of intellectual integrity and belittles loyalty to supreme values and divine ideals. Faith never shuns the problem-solving duty of mortal living. Living faith does not foster bigotry, persecution, or intolerance.

Faith does not shackle the creative imagination, neither does it maintain an unreasoning prejudice toward the discoveries of scientific investigation. Faith vitalizes religion and constrains the religionist heroically to live the golden rule. The zeal of faith is according to knowledge, and its strivings are the preludes to sublime peace."UB 1955

 

[AV1611VET]

For me I'm studying the works of God, the history of his creation.

Uh-huh ... so I notice.

Tell me, chief, if the universe is the history of God, what does the universe say God's name is?

According to the stars and planets ... and you can throw in SN1987A for kicks ... how many disciples did Jesus have, and what are their names?

According to the Laws of Thermodynamics, how long was Jesus in Hell, and why did He go there?

According to Buoyancy Laws, can anyone ... anyone ... ever walk on water?

What color was the curtain that hung over the entrance to the Tabernacle in the Wilderness, according to light spectrum analysis?

According to plate tectonics, were there any earthquakes in Elijah's time?

Explain the Rapture, using the Law of Gravity.

According to immoral amoral science, what is the Holy Bible?

Was Jonah swallowed by a whale, or a camel, according to dietary studies?

According to thin layer chromatography, was water turned to wine at Cana or Capernaum?

When is our next scheduled trip back in time, according to your decimal-moving pilots?

 

[Colter]

How many times?

Every time you walk out the door you are walking upon the ground which was once literally alive. You who are connected to the slime and ooze that once inhabited the ancient, briny seas can pick up a rock that contains the microbial records your ancient ansestors.

 

[AV1611VET]

Every time you walk out the door you are walking upon the ground which was once literally alive. You who are connected to the slime and ooze that once inhabited the ancient, briny seas can pick up a rock that contains the microbial records your ancient ansestors.

QV please: Pig Pen

Was he a Urantian too?

 

[Colter]

Uh-huh ... so I notice.

Tell me, chief, if the universe is the history of God, what does the universe say God's name is?

According to the stars and planets ... and you can throw in SN1987A for kicks ... how many disciples did Jesus have, and what are their names?

According to the Laws of Thermodynamics, how long was Jesus in Hell, and why did He go there?

According to Buoyancy Laws, can anyone ... anyone ... ever walk on water?

What color was the curtain that hung over the entrance to the Tabernacle in the Wilderness, according to light spectrum analysis?

According to plate tectonics, were there any earthquakes in Elijah's time?

Explain the Rapture, using the Law of Gravity.

According to immoral amoral science, what is the Holy Bible?

Was Jonah swallowed by a whale, or a camel, according to dietary studies?

According to thin layer chromatography, was water turned to wine at Cana or Capernaum?

When is our next scheduled trip back in time, according to your decimal-moving pilots?

Experience is the reason for finite beginnings leading to eternal potentials. My experiences with you inform me that your questions are statements of faith rather than a quest for truth. So I won't waste my morning with your insincere query.

 

[AV1611VET]

Experience is the reason for finite beginnings leading to eternal potentials. My experiences with you inform me that your questions are statements of faith rather than a quest for truth. So I won't waste my morning with your insincere query.

What?

You mean your time machine can't turn my faith into sight!?

You'd rather it stay faith, so you don't have to address it as literal history!?

Color me surprised.

Take your know-nothing science elsewhere where it's needed.

Find a cure for cancer and stop using it to slag the Bible.

Incidentally, your adherence to, and preference for, science speaks volumes for your cult.

 

[Colter]

QV please: Pig Pen

Was he a Urantian too?

No, but Gene Roddenburry was. Do you like tea? Mo Segal is Celestial Seasonings.

STAR TREK - URANTIA

 

[Colter]

What?

You mean your time machine can't turn my faith into sight!?

You'd rather it stay faith, so you don't have to address it as literal history!?

Color me surprised.

Take your know-nothing science elsewhere where it's needed.

Find a cure for cancer and stop using it to slag the Bible.

Incidentally, your adherence to, and preference for, science speaks volumes for your cult.

Cult?

Psychological projection "is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1]For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting."

Do you have an inferiority complex due to your lack of education? You often talk down to people on CF with a chip on your shoulder. If you can't deal honestly with facts that conflict with your beliefs then why engage people who took the time to get an education?

 

[AV1611VET]

No, but Gene Roddenburry was.

Well, I'll be!

I didn't know that.

Thanks for the info.

I thought he was a little strange.

So there is a connection between Urantia and Heaven's Gate after all?

(And it's Gene Roddenberry ... not Roddenburry. Urantians need to keep better records.)

 

[AV1611VET]

Cult?

Yes ... cult.

Did I stutter?

 

[Colter]

Well, I'll be!

I didn't know that.

Thanks for the info.

I thought he was a little strange.

So there is a connection between Urantia and Heaven's Gate after all?

No, only the Old Testament God sends soldiers to kill men, women and children while instructing them to keep the little virgin children for themselves.

Hey look, Flash Gorden is giving Willie his Urantia Book.

 

[Colter]

Yes ... cult.

Did I stutter?

No, you defaulted. When you can't reason with facts you vilify. That's what anti-Science people do when pressed in the corner.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, only the Old Testament God sends soldiers to kill men, women and children while instructing them to keep the little virgin children for themselves.

What would your god do? send men, women and children to kill soldiers while instructing them to let the little virgin children wander around the deserts and hills homeless?

Hey look, Flash Gorden is giving Willie his Urantia Book.

You lost me on that one.

 

[AV1611VET]

When you can't reason with facts you vilify.

And what do you do when you can't reason with facts?

Petition the government to remove them from public view?