Noah's Ark

[Subduction Zone]

If you expect to debate Christians without hearing things that floor you, I can only suggest you need to get out more.

Yep, one gets used to flood believers shooting themselves in the foot after a while.

But you do realize that you have now claimed that the flood occurred long before "Noah" came along, don't you?

 

[GondwanaLand]

If you expect to debate Christians without hearing things that floor you, I can only suggest you need to get out more.

Where did I say it floored me? I've heard that ole argument for years now. It's just as silly and nonsensical now as it was back then (indeed, I recall you making it back on CARM, and others making it there and elsewhere on other fora). And it still doesn't help your argument, but rather only hurts it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Keep talkin'.

Did you mean to do that dishonest edit?

 

[AV1611VET]

Your little "spoiler" is supported by scripture. I asked where the support was for Adam, Eve, Noah, and families speaking Jacobian English and this being the original language of Genesis 1-10.

Then read the post, please.

And I'll ask you what I asked others, so I can add you to my DIDN'T ANSWER list:

Genesis 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

What language was that, in your opinion?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Genesis 8:3 And the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated.
4 ¶ And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.
5 And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.
6 ¶ And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made:
7 And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth.
8 Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground;
9 But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark.
10 And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark;
11 And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.
12 And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more.
13 ¶ And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry.
14 And in the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month, was the earth dried.

I wouldn't exactly call this "super speed".

That is only because you have no idea how long it would take to get rid of over five miles of water without leaving a mark.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

Then read the post, please.

And I'll ask you what I asked others, so I can add you to my DIDN'T ANSWER list:

Genesis 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

What language was that, in your opinion?

Maybe Hebrew? The earliest manuscripts are in Hebrew.

I have no idea what language it was - was ora tradition until the Israelites wrote it down in Hebrew, though.

Why Jacobean English?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Then read the post, please.

And I'll ask you what I asked others, so I can add you to my DIDN'T ANSWER list:

Genesis 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

What language was that, in your opinion?

There is no reason to think that that would be Jacobean English.

 

[AV1611VET]

I swear you just make stuff up...

Maybe you should investigate before you comm start swearing.

Had it ever rained before the Flood in Noah's day?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Maybe you should investigate before you comm start swearing.

Had it ever rained before the Flood in Noah's day?

So no support at all for that belief. But you did not make up that bit of non-biblical nonsense, others did.

 

[Cearbhall]

Maybe you should investigate before you comm start swearing.

Had it ever rained before the Flood in Noah's day?

Comm...?

Because of the phrase "things not yet seen"? Good grief, that's a terrible reading of it. I'm not surprised I've never heard of it.

 

[HitchSlap]

Maybe you should investigate before you comm start swearing.

Had it ever rained before the Flood in Noah's day?

Too bad it's not more clear.

 

[lesliedellow]

Maybe you should investigate before you comm start swearing.

Had it ever rained before the Flood in Noah's day?

If there was no rain before the flood, why didn't the rivers rapidly run dry?

Oh, don't tell me, it was a MIRACLE!!!

 

[AV1611VET]

Why Jacobean English?

Because Jacobean English is the language of the King James Bible, which is God's seventh and final Version prior to His return.

Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

And as I showed, there are books in Heaven.

And we know the words of God are eternal.

That means they had no beginning and will have no end.

That means there's a copy of the Bible ... written in Heaven, before It was written on Earth.

My OPINION is that It is in Jacobean English -- not Hebrew, Greek, or Swahili.

 

[AV1611VET]

Too bad it's not more clear.

Ya ... then you could outright deny it and act like you know what you're talking about at the same time.

Genesis 1 is very clear, and denied by those who think they know what they're talking about.

 

[HitchSlap]

Because Jacobean English is the language of the King James Bible, which is God's seventh and final Version prior to His return.

Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

And as I showed, there are books in Heaven.

And we know the words of God are eternal.

That means they had no beginning and will have no end.

That means there's a copy of the Bible ... written in Heaven, before It was written on Earth.

My OPINION is that It is in Jacobean English -- not Hebrew, Greek, or Swahili.

Is this your opinion, as an Asian American?

 

[AV1611VET]

If there was no rain before the flood, why didn't the rivers rapidly run dry?

Genesis 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

 

[HitchSlap]

Ya ... then you could outright deny it and act like you know what you're talking about at the same time.

Genesis 1 is very clear, and denied by those who think they know what they're talking about.

I deny it because your middle eastern creation myth was blatantly copped from earlier myths, and simply doesn't comport with reality.

Pretty simple, really.

 

[AV1611VET]

Is this your opinion, as an Asian American?

I'm part Cherokee.

And what does it matter?

 

[lesliedellow]

Genesis 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

Um, I don't think a "mist from the ground" would have kept the Euphrates supplied, somehow.

euphrates - Google Search:

 

[AV1611VET]

I deny it because your middle eastern creation myth was blatantly copped from earlier myths, and simply doesn't comport with reality.

Pretty simple, really.

You can deny it all you want, but what you can't do is swear I made it up and be right.