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Discussion in 'Christian Scriptures' started by Andy centek, Feb 4, 2018.

  1. Andy centek

    Andy centek Seeker of Deep Truth Supporter

    United States

    I have noticed over the years, being in and out of various churches, and chat rooms, and such, that the name of Jesus is very well understood. Why do I say that? Because it is the truth. Starting with the (so-called) New Testament is the following seen.

    Mat 1:18-21 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit.

    Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privately. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, You son of David, fear not to take unto You Mary Your wife: for that which is conceived in Her is of the Holy Spirit.

    And She shall bring forth a son, and You shall call his name JESUS: for He shall save His people from Their sins.

    Who are His people? The Jews, not the Gentiles at that time.

    Mat 1:22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
    Here is the first clue as to why Jesus came to Judeah; Jesus means savior or deliverer.
    Jesus was the deliver of the Jews; not mankind at that time. Yet His name is taken and used loosely today as everyone's Savior. Eventually that came to be also, but not at that time. When talking to His deciples; after His growing up, He told them the following.

    Mat_10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter you not:

    Here Jesus separates Himself to the Jews only; for that is who He was sent to give God's words to. He was not sent to deliver Their message to the Gentiles. So to claim Jesus as ones Lord is wrong! Yes, I hear the screams. Bear with me, for I will clarify this.

    What did Jesus teach while He was in Judeah and talking to the Jews? First, He taught the kingdom of heaven doctrine. This in itself should be a hint to the readers of the Bible scriptures. To take what was before the body of Christ, and mix it with what was for the Jews, is a very bad thing indeed! It causes much confusion and false teachings.

    So what then are some of the titles that were used when referring to Jesus by His disciples and others?

    Acts_1:7 When they therefore were come together, they asked of Him, saying, Lord, will You at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

    And he said unto Them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father has put in His own power.

    Exo_19:6 And You shall be unto Me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which You shall speak unto the children of Israel.

    The son of Man

    Mat_1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ
    The son of David
    The son of Abraham

    The son of Adam

    Mat 16:13-17 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
    And they said, Some say that You are John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
    He saith unto them, But whom say you that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.
    And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed are You, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood has not revealed it unto You, but my Father which is in heaven.

    Act 7:54-60 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on Him with their teeth. But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
    Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
    And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
    And he knelt down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

    From the above it is seen that the Lord had different titles. Each of these was for a reason. You shall call His name Jesus: The Savior of Israel.The others were to show Him as a prophet sent by Elohim; God The Creator. It should also be understood that all these titles were associated with Israel and not the Gentile world. Yet men persist on taking what was said to the Jews and using it for themselves. This is a spiritually a very dangerous thing to do.

    Now will be considered the names the apostle Paul used in his writings.

    Rom 1:1-7 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ
    Called to be an apostle
    Separated unto the gospel of God
    Which He had promised before times
    By His prophets in the holy scriptures

    Concerning His Son Jesus Christ our Lord
    Which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh

    And declared to be the Son of God with power
    According to the spirit of holiness
    By the resurrection from the dead

    By whom we have received grace and apostleship
    For obedience to the faith among all nations
    For His name

    Among whom are you also the called of Jesus Christ
    To all that be in Rome beloved of God
    Called to be saints

    Grace to you and peace from God our Father
    And the Lord Jesus Christ
    Longing to Go to Rome

    Rom 1:8-9 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ
    For you all. That your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world

    For God is My witness
    Whom I serve with My spirit in the gospel of his Son

    That without ceasing I make mention of you always in My prayers

    Here is shown that the apostle Paul was indeed the one who preached to the Gentile world and not Jesus Christ. He preached the spiritual things pertaining to Jesus Christ, not the things pertaining to the Jews or the Law. As Paul said: He was separated unto the gospel of Jesus Christ to preach to the Gentiles. It is then Paul's writings that should be followed today and not the writings pertaining to Isreal or the Jews. Oil and water do not mix.

    So then what titles does Paul associate with the Lord? First he says he is the servant of Jesus Christ, not Jesus.

    Rom_1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    First he gives thanks to God the Father and the the Lord Jesus Christ.
    Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them.

    Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

    Notice above that faith is related to Jesus Christ and in the lower part of that verse if it redemption which is in Christ Jesus. So why the change of name usage. First, Jesus the man, anointed by the Spirit of God is set in place to bring spiritual salvation to all that belief: That is, truly believe,not just in words, but in their mind. All have sinned in also connected with this name usage, Jesus Christ. That is, Jesus the man on the Earth, in the earth which offered spiritual salvation to the Jews and most refused Him. To all, then, all them that believe in Christ Jesus.

    Rom_8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made Me free from the law of sin and death.

    Now notice that Paul reverts back to the Law which He had sat under before his conversion, and the Spirit of life, which is in Christ Jesus, made him free from sinning under the Law.

    So it is that when speaking of Jesus, you are talking about His lowest position on Earth in the earth. When the word Christ is annexed to His name, it now shows that He was annointed with the Holy Spirit, the second witness of the two witnesses.

    These may seem like minor things to some, but they are all very important in putting the Lord in His position of power and Grace. Jesus dies on the cross, Christ Jesus arose on the third day. My Lord lives! Does yours?

    I will be happy to try and answer and question pertaining to this writing.

    Andy Centek
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