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Name a nation greater than the US and why

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by hislegacy, Jul 6, 2019.

  1. Allandavid

    Allandavid Well-Known Member

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    And I was specifically referring to your attitude about guns....but I think you knew that...
     
  2. SoldierOfTheKing

    SoldierOfTheKing Christian Spenglerian

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    According to US military doctrine, yes. Soviet military doctrine says wars are won by maximizing casualties inflicted on the enemy.
     
  3. (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)

    (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ) Well-Known Member Supporter

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    If people want to kill someone, they don't need a gun to do it. Ask anyone from the UK about their knife problem. Guns are an important part of American Republic and they are not going away in my lifetime. In fact, the only reason why the United States has an Independence day and we don't have pictures of the Queen on our currency is because of guns.
     
  4. RDKirk

    RDKirk Alien, Pilgrim, and Sojourner Supporter

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    Which is how they finally subdued Afghanistan.
     
  5. Gene2memE

    Gene2memE Newbie

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    Rubbish.

    Soviet military doctrine may have included that as an objective at certain times, but so did US doctrine. As mentioned, look at Afghanistan as a Russian example and Vietnam as a US example - specifically the war of attrition policy approach of General Westmorland through the mid to late 1960s. However, attritional mass-casualty style warfare was not a feature of Soviet military doctrine.

    I'll quote the US Army's field manual assessment of Soviet military doctrine:

    Soviet military doctrine is based on an elaborate, integrated system of thought. The doctrinal concepts are precisely defined, and each has its place in a hierarchy of importance that corresponds to its military decision-making level. The system deals with all military issues, ranging from national defense policy down to platoon tactics.
     
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  6. Tanj

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    Any country mentioned by name in the Bible is Greater than the US, using the metric of "number of times mentioned in the bible" as a measure of greatness. For example, Ethiopia.
     
  7. Allandavid

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    And, as I said before, you can keep your love for guns on your side of the Pacific thanks. I’m much happier to live in a land that doesn’t shoot more than 30,000 of its people every year...
     
  8. LaBèlla

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    Your love for America isn’t bad. You’ve encountered people who disagree and voice their differences.

    I experience America as a positive place that I’m proud to live in. But that feeling is based on realities which may not exist for the next person.

    For me, America is great and for someone else that may not hold true. Neither are wrong. We’re addressing the subject from a personal perspective. We can’t expect agreement. :)
     
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  9. (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)

    (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ) Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Well, I cannot argue that Australia has a much lower homicide rate than the United States. But the problem isn't guns. The problems are the issues that would lead a person to use a gun to take the life of another human being. Even if 100% of the guns in the United States where to magically vanish, I would expect a marginal change in homicide rates.
     
  10. rambot

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    Name me one meaningful long term interaction they have had?
    I fully admit that on the technicality you are right. I just don't think that comparing what is essentially no relationship to one of hundreds repression with poor treatment is the commenserate with a colonial power engaging respectfully and frequently with the indiginius population.
     
  11. Occams Barber

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    Are you saying that killing each other is just a quaint American cultural tradition? Take away the guns and you'll still be killing each other at the same rate?

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    OB
     
  12. (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)

    (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ) Well-Known Member Supporter

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    No, I am saying what I said in my post. The problem isn't guns. The problem are the things that lead to gun violence...period. You take the guns out of America and people will find other ways of killing each other. Meaning that if all the guns in America were to disappear, the graph would look like this:
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  13. Occams Barber

    Occams Barber Newbie Supporter

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    That what I said:
    Why are Americans so prone to killing each other?
    OB
     
  14. Nithavela

    Nithavela confused

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    What I was actually saying was that NO indiginous community has ever been treated well.

    There is no great nation. They're all bad in one way or another (or rather, a few dozen ways). Get over yourselves.
     
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    (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ) Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Probably for the same reasons that people kill each other everywhere else. I will add that there are 10 reasons not to live in Australia:
    1. Box Jellyfish
    2. Irukandji Jellyfish
    3. Bull Sharks
    4. Eastern Brown Snakes
    5. Sydney funnel web spider
    6. Blue-ringed octopus
    7. Coastal taipan
    8. Death Adder
    9. Cone Shells
    10. Bull Ant
    11. Yeah...just about every animal in Australia can kill you. So other human beings is probably the last of my worries.
     
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  16. rambot

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    If it's not great, why am I thankful to be living here? I have clean water, infrastructure and safety.. no bombs er Nithin.
     
  17. Nithavela

    Nithavela confused

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    Propably because you're not one of those suffering from the not so great parts.
     
  18. Allandavid

    Allandavid Well-Known Member

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    You have no way of knowing that...

    By the way...this thread is about how great each country is. You’re painting a very bloodthirsty picture of your country there mate....
     
  19. expos4ever

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    Are you speculating? Even though it might seem obvious to you, there are reasons to be skeptical of your claim. For one, I suggest it takes a lot more courage and determination to kill someone with a knife.
     
  20. (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)

    (° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ) Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I never said our country was perfect. But it still is the greatest country on earth and in the history of ever.
     
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