My Murderous Challenge

[AV1611VET]

I think harmonies are attempts to do something with the Gospel literature that doesn't really need to be done, especially not in order to protect a few other dogmatic assumptions that some of my fellow Christians think they "need" to protect.

This is from a post I made in another thread some time ago.

It is my favorite example of Gospel harmonizing.

To paint the most accurate picture of any given topic, you have to take ALL the scriptures into consideration; then put them together into one coherent statement.

My favorite example is what was written on the Cross, over Jesus' head.

Matthew 27:37 And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

Mark 15:26 And the superscription of his accusation was written over, THE KING OF THE JEWS.

Luke 23:38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

John 19:19 And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.

Put them all together and it reads: THIS IS JESUS OF NAZARETH, THE KING OF THE JEWS.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

This is from a post I made in another thread some time ago.

It is my favorite example of Gospel harmonizing.

To paint the most accurate picture of any given topic, you have to take ALL the scriptures into consideration; then put them together into one coherent statement.

My favorite example is what was written on the Cross, over Jesus' head.

Matthew 27:37 And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

Mark 15:26 And the superscription of his accusation was written over, THE KING OF THE JEWS.

Luke 23:38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

John 19:19 And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.

Put them all together and it reads: THIS IS JESUS OF NAZARETH, THE KING OF THE JEWS.

I'm more into Gospel diversifying through Biblical Criticism. It's more realistic that way.
Besides, I'm partial to Hermeneutics anyhow, and harmonization just gets in the way of that.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm more into Gospel diversifying through Biblical Criticism.

It's easier to tear something down, than it is to build it up?

 

[Blaise N]

Saying that doesn't change facts.

"In Matthew, there is not a word about Jesus being God; in John, that's precisely who he is. In Matthew, Jesus teaches about the coming kingdom of God and almost never about himself (and never that he is divine); in John, Jesus teaches almost exclusively about himself, especially his divinity. In Matthew, Jesus refuses to perform miracles in order to prove his identity; in John, that is practically the only reason he does miracles."

Jesus And The Hidden Contradictions Of The Gospels

The New Testament contains multiple versions of the life and teachings of Jesus. Bart Ehrman, the author of Jesus, Interrupted,, says they are at odds with each other on important points regarding the life, death and divinity of Jesus.

www.npr.org

They both are about different areas concerning Jesus ministry,He never performed miracles to prove himself to the Sadducee’s,Pharisees,scribes,and Jews bacause evidential proof doesn’t equate to their belief,the high Jews were already calloused and hardened against Jesus and He knew they would t believe even if miracles were performed in front of them.On the other hand Jesus performed miracles to prove he was the coming messiah and to fulfill the prophecies that prophesied of him,he also performed them out of his loving kindness,to feed the hungry,heal the lame,blind,crippled,and leprous.Jesus ministry was to teach of HIS kingdom and his divinity.

And yes he was God in the flesh and fully Devine all the wild also being fully human.The Book of John was written to help those who struggle with having faith and understanding,it’s an encouragement and convincing book.John wrote it to help people have faith by stating all the works and deeds of Jesus to assure those who are uncertain to be certain

 

[Blaise N]

Care to provide a source for this?

Absolutely!,id love to!

https://www.israelhayom.com/2021/10/04/archaeologists-claim-to-have-found-true-location-of-noahs-ark/

 

[2PhiloVoid]

It's easier to tear something down, than it is to build it up?

No. It's really a matter of you and I thinking in completely different conceptual paradigms from one another---it has nothing to do with the ease of either tearing down the Bible or building it up.

But you know what's interesting? Somehow, we both still arrive at the fact that Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ, the Son of God, our Risen Lord and Savior! Ain't that a hoot!?

 

[Kylie]

Absolutely!,id love to!

https://www.israelhayom.com/2021/10/04/archaeologists-claim-to-have-found-true-location-of-noahs-ark/

Yeah, this doesn't really work.

Andrew Snelling, a creationist writing for Creation.com has said the claim is false and that it is definitely not Noah's ark.

Lorence Gene Collins, from the Department of Geological Sciences at California State University has also shown that what they found is a common geological structure, and not the remains of an ancient boat.

 

[Larniavc]

They both are about different areas concerning Jesus ministry,He never performed miracles to prove himself to the Sadducee’s,Pharisees,scribes,and Jews bacause evidential proof doesn’t equate to their belief,the high Jews were already calloused and hardened against Jesus and He knew they would t believe even if miracles were performed in front of them.On the other hand Jesus performed miracles to prove he was the coming messiah and to fulfill the prophecies that prophesied of him,he also performed them out of his loving kindness,to feed the hungry,heal the lame,blind,crippled,and leprous.Jesus ministry was to teach of HIS kingdom and his divinity.

And yes he was God in the flesh and fully Devine all the wild also being fully human.The Book of John was written to help those who struggle with having faith and understanding,it’s an encouragement and convincing book.John wrote it to help people have faith by stating all the works and deeds of Jesus to assure those who are uncertain to be certain

Disagree. But I have little vested interest in what you believe.

 

[Blaise N]

Disagree. But I have little vested interest in what you believe.

So be it,If you wish to disagree and not believe I cannot make you or force you,Faith is a choice,and unfortunately it breaks my heart you don’t have faith in Jesus.If you want to live a life like in Unbelief,So be it my Friend.

 

[Blaise N]

Yeah, this doesn't really work.

Andrew Snelling, a creationist writing for Creation.com has said the claim is false and that it is definitely not Noah's ark.

Lorence Gene Collins, from the Department of Geological Sciences at California State University has also shown that what they found is a common geological structure, and not the remains of an ancient boat.

Well fortunately,regardless if it is or not,the ark existed and wasn’t a knockoff of Babylonian beliefs.Believe it or not I saw a video of a man who went inside the mountain formation and there was real wood carpentry work inside.It’s unlikely it was due to mining.

 

[Kylie]

Well fortunately,regardless if it is or not,the ark existed and wasn’t a knockoff of Babylonian beliefs.Believe it or not I saw a video of a man who went inside the mountain formation and there was real wood carpentry work inside.It’s unlikely it was due to mining.

Would you care to provide a link to this video?

 

[dlamberth]

Well fortunately,regardless if it is or not,the ark existed and wasn’t a knockoff of Babylonian beliefs.Believe it or not I saw a video of a man who went inside the mountain formation and there was real wood carpentry work inside.It’s unlikely it was due to mining.

There is no religion that doesn't incorporate some aspect of the religion that came before it. Babylonian beliefs are an example.

 

[AV1611VET]

There is no religion that doesn't incorporate some aspect of the religion that came before it. Babylonian beliefs are an example.

Correct.

Ea, Marduk, and Ishtar were imported into India as Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva.

 

[Blaise N]

There is no religion that doesn't incorporate some aspect of the religion that came before it. Babylonian beliefs are an example.

And there is an answer to that,Every other religion is false and based upon false foundations from other faiths,the reason the Bible shows similarities to some civilizations mythologies is because they were the ones that incorporated them twisting them from their apostasy from the truth.The Lord Jesus is the truth.

 

[Blaise N]

Would you care to provide a link to this video?

Absolutely

 

[Kylie]

Absolutely

That's a series of photographs that could be anything located anywhere.

The video says this was done in preparation for scientific research. Is there a link to this research? It was done in 2014, so surely there must be SOMETHING by now.

 

[Blaise N]

That's a series of photographs that could be anything located anywhere.

The video says this was done in preparation for scientific research. Is there a link to this research? It was done in 2014, so surely there must be SOMETHING by now.

Kylie,What hurts is your life is soaked in skepticism,and by my analysis you find it hard to have faith in anything.Like I told the other fellow here,I can’t force you to do anything(and I wouldn’t want to either) I can’t make you have faith,because the Lord doesn’t work like that.If you want to live your life the way you have it now,so be it,But it saddens me.I wish you only the best!

 

[AV1611VET]

Kylie,What hurts is your life is soaked in skepticism,and by my analysis you find it hard to have faith in anything.Like I told the other fellow here,I can’t force you to do anything(and I wouldn’t want to either) I can’t make you have faith,because the Lord doesn’t work like that.If you want to live your life the way you have it now,so be it,But it saddens me.I wish you only the best!

I second that.

 

[dlamberth]

Kylie,What hurts is your life is soaked in skepticism,and by my analysis you find it hard to have faith in anything.Like I told the other fellow here,I can’t force you to do anything(and I wouldn’t want to either) I can’t make you have faith,because the Lord doesn’t work like that.If you want to live your life the way you have it now,so be it,But it saddens me.I wish you only the best!

Even as a Lover of God, I believe skepticism is healthy. That's because skepticism requires inner search, questioning and testing. And that's a good thing. What I don't understand is how blindly having faith in any belief structure is the right way to go.

 

[AV1611VET]

Even as a Lover of God, I believe skepticism is healthy. That's because skepticism requires inner search, questioning and testing. And that's a good thing. What I don't understand is how blindly having faith in any belief structure is the right way to go.

Why would you do an inner search, when Jesus said your innards are corrupt?

Mark 7:21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.