My experience...Ken Ham and YEC.

[CabVet]

I'm not misrepresenting science in any way. It's already misrepresented.

Do you have a degree in science to determine if it's misinterpreted or are you just saying that because science happens to disagree with your worldview?

 

[RickG]

I'm not misrepresenting science in any way. It's already misrepresented.

Yes, we know; in the YEC literature which you prefer over actual legitimate science.

 

[RickG]

The earth was created mature just as everything else was from stars to plants to Adam and Eve. There is no miracle or mystery to it.

If you wish to believe that, that's fine. However, I suggest you keep that belief as faith and not subscribe to misrepresented to literature from non science sources to support that belief.

 

[lasthero]

The earth was created mature just as everything else was from stars to plants to Adam and Eve. There is no miracle or mystery to it.

Did God also make the Earth complete with impact craters from meteors that never hit?

 

[RickG]

Did God also make the Earth complete with impact craters from meteors that never hit?

Yes, and impacts that can be dated, not to mention all the geochemical sources that reveal a chronological picture of past environments.

 

[Dizredux]

So the conflict really is with man's word or God's word. Which one do you trust more? Or do you not even believe the bible when it says God guided men to write His words?

There is also God's works which you seem to ignore.

Dizredux

 

[RickG]

There is also God's works which you seem to ignore.

Dizredux

Yes, the earth itself.

 

[Loudmouth]

I'm not misrepresenting science in any way. It's already misrepresented.

The fact that you can't present any of the assumptions that you claim scientists use is proof of your mispresentations.

 

[Loudmouth]

The earth was created mature just as everything else was from stars to plants to Adam and Eve. There is no miracle or mystery to it.

We observe a history in the Earth, not maturity. Here is what one pastor said of Phillip Henry Gosse's book "Omphalos" which put forward the same idea you are.

Shall I tell you the truth? It is best. Your book is the first that ever made me doubt, and I fear it will make hundreds do so. Your book tends to prove this — that if we accept the fact of absolute creation, God becomes Deus quidam deceptor [‘God who is sometimes a deceiver’]. I do not mean merely in the case of fossils which pretend to be the bones of dead animals; but in the one single case of your newly created scars on the pandanus trunk, your newly created Adam's navel, you make God tell a lie. It is not my reason, but my conscience which revolts here... I cannot... believe that God has written on the rocks one enormous and superfluous lie for all mankind." --Charles Kingsley​

 

[RickG]

We observe a history in the Earth, not maturity. Here is what one pastor said of Phillip Henry Gosse's book "Omphalos" which put forward the same idea you are.

Shall I tell you the truth? It is best. Your book is the first that ever made me doubt, and I fear it will make hundreds do so. Your book tends to prove this — that if we accept the fact of absolute creation, God becomes Deus quidam deceptor [‘God who is sometimes a deceiver’]. I do not mean merely in the case of fossils which pretend to be the bones of dead animals; but in the one single case of your newly created scars on the pandanus trunk, your newly created Adam's navel, you make God tell a lie. It is not my reason, but my conscience which revolts here... I cannot... believe that God has written on the rocks one enormous and superfluous lie for all mankind." --Charles Kingsley​

That is an absolutely outstanding quote from Charles Kingsley Loudmouth. Mind if I add this portion to my signature?

"It is not my reason, but my conscience which revolts here... I cannot... believe that God has written on the rocks one enormous and superfluous lie for all mankind." --Charles Kingsley​

 

[Loudmouth]

That is an absolutely outstanding quote from Charles Kingsley Loudmouth. Mind if I add this portion to my signature?

"It is not my reason, but my conscience which revolts here... I cannot... believe that God has written on the rocks one enormous and superfluous lie for all mankind." --Charles Kingsley​

By all means, go for it.

 

[RickG]

By all means, go for it.

Thanks!

 

[EternalDragon]

The fact that you can't present any of the assumptions that you claim scientists use is proof of your mispresentations.

Right here from the Wiki:

"All life on Earth is descended from a last universal ancestor that lived approximately 3.8 billion years ago."

 

[EternalDragon]

Do you have a degree in science to determine if it's misinterpreted or are you just saying that because science happens to disagree with your worldview?

Science or the knowledge about the world and the past agrees with the biblical account. However, the majority of scientists make naturalistic assumptions about the world and the past. Which has more to do with preserving their careers than with the truth.

 

[bhsmte]

Science or the knowledge about the world and the past agrees with the biblical account. However, the majority of scientists make naturalistic assumptions about the world and the past. Which has more to do with preserving their careers than with the truth.

You would say then, that the scientific theory of evolution agrees with the biblical account?

 

[CabVet]

Science or the knowledge about the world and the past agrees with the biblical account. However, the majority of scientists make naturalistic assumptions about the world and the past. Which has more to do with preserving their careers than with the truth.

You neither know what science is nor what scientists say, so you can't really make this statement.

 

[lasthero]

Science or the knowledge about the world and the past agrees with the biblical account. However, the majority of scientists make naturalistic assumptions about the world and the past. Which has more to do with preserving their careers than with the truth.

At least you've gotten the point where you realize most scientists disagree with you. To hear you tell it before, you almost seemed to think the sides were even. You're still firmly entrenched in Ben Stein Conspiracy Theory La La Land where about 99% are all supporting a theory they know has no basis even though you have no evidence that's the case, but progress is progress.

But the first part intrigues me. Can you please point to the verse and chapter where it talks about the Earth getting bombarded with life-destroying meteors? Because science shows us that we've been hit by quite a few, but I'm not familiar with any part of the Bible that deals with that. It's almost like the book was made by humans long after any of these impacts occurred, but that can't be right if what you're saying is true. So it has to be in there, somewhere.

 

[EternalDragon]

You neither know what science is nor what scientists say, so you can't really make this statement.

You can't know what I know, so you can't make that statement.

 

[TLK Valentine]

You can't know what I know, so you can't make that statement.

So what have you been going on about?

 

[bhsmte]

You can't know what I know, so you can't make that statement.

Every post you make is a clue to what you know or don't know.

We have a lot of clues.