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My Alcohol Challenge

Discussion in 'Physical & Life Sciences' started by AV1611VET, Jul 24, 2014.

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  1. Kylie

    Kylie Atheist and Proud

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    lol, smart alec.:D
     
  2. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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  3. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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  4. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Ah, so instead of having a legitimate medical condition, you used semantics to hide the truth and distort reality.

    I should've figured.
     
  5. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    What are you talking about?

    It was a mental exercise.

    If I wanted to hide the truth, I wouldn't have given the answer.
     
  6. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    More like mental gymnastics.

    Semantics are fun, aren't they?
     
  7. RickG

    RickG Senior Veteran Supporter

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    Oh my! Taking inventory I find that I am completely out of beer and Scotch, and very low on Gin. Looks like I'll have to make a trip to the package and liquor stores. I think I'll go Sunday after church. :yum:
     
  8. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    You could just save time and skip church... just sayin'
     
  9. RickG

    RickG Senior Veteran Supporter

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    Won't work. Beer and liquor sales are not allowed until here until 1:00 p.m. on Sundays. :)
     
  10. TheReasoner

    TheReasoner Former christian, current teapot agnostic.

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    I confess I have not read the entire thread, and I suppose I am coming across as somewhat snobby, but... There's beer (Like the US Budweisser and Coors) and then there is beer (Like for example Ola Dubh 18 or Dark Island Reserve). There are so many tastes it is impossible to tell what beer tastes like. It depends on the beer.
     
  11. TheReasoner

    TheReasoner Former christian, current teapot agnostic.

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    That said, if he has a drinking problem and can never stop once he starts that would also explain it...

    If so, lay off the booze AV. Its not good for you in excess.
     
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  12. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    It's beer vs root beer.

    I've had root beer before, but I've never had alcoholic beer.

    Jesus turned water into wine, not wine.
     
  13. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    I believe the term you're looking for is riddle.
     
  14. TheReasoner

    TheReasoner Former christian, current teapot agnostic.

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    I guess you're not joking... Nah, the story is clear as day, AV. According to the myth he turned it into alcoholic wine, on which people can get drunk. That is what it says in the original greek, plain as day. And besides, you cannot store grape juice without far more modern inventions than they had available then. It ferments if you don't deal with it appropriately, which they could not do. So not only does the language of the text prove your interpretation wrong, the facts related to the time and place in question also does so. Which is made clear by the context as well as the other biblical verses on wine. And, of course, proper research on the question.
    The bible is crystal clear in that alcohol was not seen as a universally bad thing. And that actually jives well with current data: Some alcohol, it seems, is better than none.
     
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  15. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    Now you know why I'm KJVO.

    And is that the same "original greek [sic]" that defines "sin" as a sports term; meaning "to miss the mark" -- as in archery or darts?
    What text?
     
  16. HitchSlap

    HitchSlap Burn the torch!

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    Because you need this to be true?
     
  17. Subduction Zone

    Subduction Zone Regular Member

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    AV has his own interpretation of the Bible. If he does not like what it says he will retranslate it so that it does.

    In other words he translates wine to be grape juice since people can get intoxicated on wine. It does not matter that from context it is clear that the verse is referring to alcohol filled wine, he can't have his god supplying such pleasure.
     
  18. HitchSlap

    HitchSlap Burn the torch!

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    I wonder if there are any other words that don't meant what they mean, in the KJVAAV?
     
  19. Queller

    Queller I'm where?

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    Any words that make his interpretation look bad mean something different than the standard definition.
     
  20. Strathos

    Strathos No one important

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    So AV, if you can claim "wine" in the Bible means "non-alcoholic grape juice", can I claim that "formed from the dust of the ground" means "God-induced abiogenesis"?

    Or are you the only one allowed to interpret the Bible like that?
     
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