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Subduction Zone · Oct 23, 2018

Justatruthseeker said:
The scientific deffinition has escaped you....

Polystrate fossil - Wikipedia

"A polystrate fossil is a fossil of a single organism (such as a tree trunk) that extends through more than one geological stratum."

Of course they try to explain it away as having occurred by several sedimentary processes over millions of years. That just happened to leave the fossil un-weathered while sitting in the elements for those millions of years...... Sigh...... Kind of like lack of erosion layers between sedimentary layers.....

And there are not any. Just because one finds a vertical fossil in a thick stratum does not mean that one has found a "polystrate fossil". Here is a clue that they do not exist. This is a claim only made by creationists and not by real scientists. You won't find articles on polystrate fossils in well respected professional journals unless they are refuting creationist claims. The Wiki article that you linked has links itself. The first one goes to a site that refutes the creationist concept of "polystrate fossils":

"Polystrate" Tree Fossils

Aman777 · Oct 24, 2018

AV1611VET said:
I don't know how long he was there. Some think it was just a year.

Adam was made BEFORE plants, herbs and trees Genesis 2:4-9 AND before the beginning of our Cosmos, which was some 13.7 billion years ago, in man's time. Adam lived until some 12k years ago when Eve was made. Genesis 2:22 He also lived for 930 years AFTER he and Eve were created Spiritually by the Trinity. Genesis 5:5

Adam never took a step on planet Earth since he lived and died on another world, which was totally surrounded by Water. Noah arrived here less than 1k years after Adam died. Today, Adam's physical remains can be found dissolved in Lake Van, Turkey, where Adam's firmament sank 11k years ago, in man's time. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

AV1611VET · Oct 24, 2018

Aman777 said:
Adam was made BEFORE plants, herbs and trees Genesis 2:4-9 AND before the beginning of our Cosmos, which was some 13.7 billion years ago, in man's time. Adam lived until some 12k years ago when Eve was made. Genesis 2:22 He also lived for 930 years AFTER he and Eve were created Spiritually by the Trinity. Genesis 5:5

Adam never took a step on planet Earth since he lived and died on another world, which was totally surrounded by Water. Noah arrived here less than 1k years after Adam died. Today, Adam's physical remains can be found dissolved in Lake Van, Turkey, where Adam's firmament sank 11k years ago, in man's time. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

Hollow Earth Theory?

Aman777 · Oct 24, 2018

AV1611VET said:
Hollow Earth Theory?

No. Instead, it is what is actually written, which can only be understood by the Christians of the last days before Jesus returns. Daniel 12:4

Beware the ides of November since Putin and Trump will meet at that time. If they announce that they will meet on the 16th, you will know that we are living in the last days.

BTW, the center of the Earth is filled with magma. It's not hollow.

AV1611VET · Oct 24, 2018

Aman777 said:
No. Instead, it is what is actually written, which can only be understood by the Christians of the last days before Jesus returns. Daniel 12:4

Beware the ides of November since Putin and Trump will meet at that time. If they announce that they will meet on the 16th, you will know that we are living in the last days.

BTW, the center of the Earth is filled with magma. It's not hollow.

Okay ... thank you.

Was just wondering.

Justatruthseeker · Oct 26, 2018

AV1611VET said:
I don't know how long he was there. Some think it was just a year.I don't remember saying it was the same day. Perhaps you have me mixed up with someone else?It was good enough for them to marry and have children.

That's more than academians do today in this world of shacking up.

That’s more than the majority do in this world today.

Ok, spending years in the garden after the seventh day is an acceptable explanation for understanding the punishment for sin (death). Enough time to watch animals mate, guve birth and die.

But I am still curious how he named all the animals in a day.....

Justatruthseeker · Oct 26, 2018

Subduction Zone said:
And there are not any. Just because one finds a vertical fossil in a thick stratum does not mean that one has found a "polystrate fossil". Here is a clue that they do not exist. This is a claim only made by creationists and not by real scientists. You won't find articles on polystrate fossils in well respected professional journals unless they are refuting creationist claims. The Wiki article that you linked has links itself. The first one goes to a site that refutes the creationist concept of "polystrate fossils":

"Polystrate" Tree Fossils

Lol, but your “scientists” defend the claim by saying those many layers took millions of years to form. Magically without weathering the tree before it was completely buried and could fossilize.....

“In geology, such fossils are referred to as either upright fossil trunks, upright fossil trees, or T0 assemblages. According to mainstream (actualistic) models of sedimentary environments, they are formed by rare to infrequent brief episodes of rapid sedimentation separated by long periods of either slow deposition, nondeposition, or a combination of both.”

Even your scientists admit they exist, so why do you try so hard to deny them? Because you realize their explanations are lame????

Subduction Zone · Oct 26, 2018

Justatruthseeker said:
Lol, but your “scientists” defend the claim by saying those many layers took millions of years to form. Magically without weathering the tree before it was completely buried and could fossilize.....

“In geology, such fossils are referred to as either upright fossil trunks, upright fossil trees, or T0 assemblages. According to mainstream (actualistic) models of sedimentary environments, they are formed by rare to infrequent brief episodes of rapid sedimentation separated by long periods of either slow deposition, nondeposition, or a combination of both.”

Even your scientists admit they exist, so why do you try so hard to deny them? Because you realize their explanations are lame????

Nope, strawman. Try again. If you want to understand you need to ask proper questions. False assumptions buried in one's questions make them improper.

Scientists admit that standing trees can be fossilized as you said. But that does not make them "polystrate fossils". A statum is rarely one thin layer. A stratum can be rather thick, as in the case of all of the polystrate fossils that I have ever seen. That is one stratum, therefore not "poystrate".

Subduction Zone · Oct 26, 2018

Justatruthseeker said:
That’s more than the majority do in this world today.

Ok, spending years in the garden after the seventh day is an acceptable explanation for understanding the punishment for sin (death). Enough time to watch animals mate, guve birth and die.

But I am still curious how he named all the animals in a day.....

There is an obvious explanation. Think about it, you should be able to come up with the right answer.

Aman777 · Oct 26, 2018

Justatruthseeker said:
But I am still curious how he named all the animals in a day.....

It's because each of God's Days are really Ages which are some 4.5 Billion years long, in man's time. Jesus formed the animals from the ground and Adam named them at the beginning of the present 6th Day, Genesis 2:19 the Day of Salvation, according to Jesus. 2 Corinthians 6:2 This Day/Age will NOT end until our Cosmos is burned, which is a future event which happens before God rests or ceases to create. Amen?

AV1611VET · Oct 26, 2018

Justatruthseeker said:
But I am still curious how he named all the animals in a day.....

Just these:

Genesis 2:20a And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field;

Justatruthseeker · Oct 27, 2018

Subduction Zone said:
There is an obvious explanation. Think about it, you should be able to come up with the right answer.

I already know the answer, It's AV I am trying to get to understand the answer......

Justatruthseeker · Oct 27, 2018

AV1611VET said:
Just these:

Genesis 2:20a And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field;

Which says nothing about how long it took......

Then we debate the meaning of day.

I point out a day to God is as a thousand years.

You point out God rested on the seventh day.

I point out God has never ceased working.

You claim that only means ceased working in creating....

I claim stars are still being created..... and that the universe is upheld by His power, and would dissolve back into nothing without it....

And we never reach a conclusion. All because no time is mentioned but a day, but that day was described by darkness and light supposedly before the stars were even formed to divide a day according to the day equals one day theory....

And round and round and round we go.....

Subduction Zone · Oct 27, 2018

Justatruthseeker said:
I already know the answer, It's AV I am trying to get to understand the answer......

I don't think that you do.

Justatruthseeker · Oct 27, 2018

Subduction Zone said:
I don't think that you do.

I don't think you read minds too good. The first indicator of quackery, claiming mind reading skills.....

lesliedellow · Oct 27, 2018

AV1611VET said:
You're transported back to the year 4004 BC.

Please answer YES or NO to the following items you would expect to see:

1. a yellow sun
2. thorns & thistles
3. a moon with craters
4. fossils
5. white cliffs, meandering streams, polystrate fossils
6. stalactites & stalagmites
7. rain
8. Egypt, Iran, China
9. five continents
10. polar ice caps
11. more than one ocean

All of the above, except perhaps the political map of the world, which is lucky if it manages to survive 100 years unchanged.

46AND2 · Oct 27, 2018

Justatruthseeker said:
Of course they try to explain it away as having occurred by several sedimentary processes over millions of years. That just happened to leave the fossil un-weathered while sitting in the elements for those millions of years

Said no scientist ever.

Justatruthseeker · Oct 27, 2018

46AND2 said:
Said no scientist ever.

Says them all...

"Geological explanation
In geology, such fossils are referred to as either upright fossil trunks, upright fossil trees, or T0 assemblages. According to mainstream (actualistic) models of sedimentary environments, they are formed by rare to infrequent brief episodes of rapid sedimentation separated by long periods of either slow deposition, nondeposition, or a combination of both."

Why evolutionists must always bury their heads in the sand is beyond me....

46AND2 · Oct 27, 2018

Justatruthseeker said:
Says them all...

"Geological explanation
In geology, such fossils are referred to as either upright fossil trunks, upright fossil trees, or T0 assemblages. According to mainstream (actualistic) models of sedimentary environments, they are formed by rare to infrequent brief episodes of rapid sedimentation separated by long periods of either slow deposition, nondeposition, or a combination of both."

Why evolutionists must always bury their heads in the sand is beyond me....

Funny...article says nothing about millions of years.

As I said...said no scientist ever.

Justatruthseeker · Oct 27, 2018

46AND2 said:
Funny...article says nothing about millions of years.

As I said...said no scientist ever.

I know, the article just says long periods, but the strata that it extends through encompass millions of years.

So I am glad to see you arguing against those strata actually encompass millions of years. There may be hope for you yet....

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