How much longer will growth of Antarcic ice save our coastlands?

[DennisTate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qattara_Depression_Project

Wow!!!!!!

 

[HARK!]

I agree that agriculture may well be the key.

Tony Lovell on Soil Carbon: Putting Carbon Back Where It Belongs – In the Earth (TEDx video) - The Permaculture Research Institute

Good stuff!

 

[JackRT]

Wow!!!!!!

With modern technology this project while huge is doable. There may be a miniscule effect on sea level but I think the biggest benefit would be the creation of a mini-climate around the lake that would enable settlement and agriculture.

 

[HARK!]

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I'm practicing Regenerative Agriculture.
I've watched that video several times now; but I forgot about that part.

He does bring entertainment to the subject.

How did you capture that image?

 

[paul1149]

How did you capture that image?

I simply paused the vid at that point, and then invoked a screenshot program. I'm on Linux, and screenshot is built in. I think Win10 finally has it built in as well, otherwise there are third party progs available.

Cool about sustainable ag. I was getting into gardening big time several years ago, until I came down with Lyme and related illnesses. He is a very good speaker.

 

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[SkyWriting]

Can you do 2% about it? All we need is for everyone to do their share.

Otherwise, every country can say the same thing. France is 1%, Australia is 1%, Brazil is 1%, Turkey is 1%, South Africa is 1%, Poland is 1%, Italy is 1%, the UK is 1%, Mexico is 1%, South Korea is 2%, Canada is 2%, Germany is 2%, Saudi Arabia is 2%, Japan is 4%, Russia is 5%, India is 6%. None of them individually are responsible for much, and none of them individually can make much of a dent in the problem. CO2 emissions have risen 60% since 1990, so even if India stopped all carbon use, it wouldn't get us back even a tenth of the way back to that level.

Together those countries amount to 32%. If they don't do anything, why should the US (15%)? If that total 47% doesn't do anything, why should China (28%)?

That's been the status quo forever, which is why the Paris Accords are a very useful attempt at coordinated action where everyone does their share, and no one feels like they've been left to carry the whole load.

And yet impossible. Not one single new rule has hit the public.
Not that I know of anyway. We have not EVEN had an effort to turn off
one light bulb per house. Or turn down our central heat one degree
for one hour a day. Or drive one less mile per week.

I think one airline vowed to buy more efficient engines.

 

[DennisTate]

With modern technology this project while huge is doable. There may be a miniscule effect on sea level but I think the biggest benefit would be the creation of a mini-climate around the lake that would enable settlement and agriculture.

After the fifteen minute mark in the following video the number of seven hundred and ten trillion for the worldwide Derivatives markets is given.

Senator and CIA Insider Accuse Federal Reserve of Covering Up Secret Bankruptcy


About ten minutes later on in that video it is stated that China..... is building White Elephants..... entire modern upscale cities...... with nobody in them...... because the people of China cannot afford to live there!

In a way.... China deserves credit for creating jobs for its citizens....... with the building of these White Elephants but.... they are doing it to make their economy look much better than it really is.

Somebody somewhere needs to come up with something more truly productive than building cities that nobody can afford to live in!


Genesis 11
6 And Jehovah said, Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is what they begin to do: and now nothing will be withholden from them, which they purpose to do.


Ecc 10:19

A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.

 

[Aussie Pete]

Oh, the irony of someone advocating superstition claiming it's others that want to send the world back to the stone age.

Oh the irony of someone ignoring thousands of years of history, the unmistakable evidence of creation, the incredible creativeness and inventiveness of Christians prominent in science, research, invention, technology, medicine and so on. If people had followed Biblical principles of agriculture, farming practices, animal husbandry and people management, we would not be in the mess we are in now.

 

[pitabread]

Oh the irony of someone ignoring thousands of years of history, the unmistakable evidence of creation, the incredible creativeness and inventiveness of Christians prominent in science, research, invention, technology, medicine and so on.

You appear to be confusing the beliefs a person holds with the applications thereof.

Nobody is denying that Christians can't contribute to scientific endeavors. However, it is not strictly Christians beliefs in and of themselves that lend themselves to those applications.

If people had followed Biblical principles of agriculture, farming practices, animal husbandry and people management, we would not be in the mess we are in now.

[citation needed]

 

[Aussie Pete]

And yet impossible. Not one single new rule has hit the public.
Not that I know of anyway. We have not EVEN had an effort to turn off
one light bulb per house. Or turn down our central heat one degree
for one hour a day. Or drive one less mile per week.

I think one airline vowed to buy more efficient engines.

Australia has given free LED lights to every household that wants them. Solar panels are subsidised, so much so that the grid struggles to handle the irregular power. Again, one of the major problems is clearing forests wholesale. Big business only cares about making a buck today. While they rule the world, not a great deal will change. Don't worry, they won't be in control much longer.

 

[Aussie Pete]

You appear to be confusing the beliefs a person holds with the applications thereof.

Nobody is denying that Christians can't contribute to scientific endeavors. However, it is not strictly Christians beliefs in and of themselves that lend themselves to those applications.



[citation needed]

Did I say specifically Christian? No. Israel was given guidelines for good farming practices. You'll find it in the Bible. It works practically whatever your beliefs.

 

[pitabread]

Did I say specifically Christian? No.

Oh the irony of someone ignoring thousands of years of history, the unmistakable evidence of creation, the incredible creativeness and inventiveness of Christians prominent in science, research, invention, technology, medicine and so on.

(emphasis mine)

Looks like you did say Christians.

Israel was given guidelines for good farming practices. You'll find it in the Bible. It works practically whatever your beliefs.

Not what I asked.

You said this:

If people had followed Biblical principles of agriculture, farming practices, animal husbandry and people management, we would not be in the mess we are in now.

When I say "citation needed", it means you need to support this claim. Otherwise it's just an unsupported assertion with no credibility.

 

[essentialsaltes]

And yet impossible. Not one single new rule has hit the public.
Not that I know of anyway. We have not EVEN had an effort to turn off
one light bulb per house.

You must have missed all the whining about the phase-out of less efficient incandescent bulbs.

"LED bulbs use over 75% less energy than incandescent lighting."

Probably you are saving more energy than if you turned out half the bulbs in your house.

 

[SkyWriting]

A lot of ice has been melting off the land based Greenland Ice Sheet and the world glaciers so why have we seen so little rise in ocean levels?Up until now the GROWTH of the Antarctic ice sheet has balanced things out.

I wonder if God's promise not to flood the world is tied to keeping ocean levels in check? Just a random thought.

 

[dqhall]

Sahara Forest Project -



Sahara Forest Project and Costa Crociere Foundation join forces for sustainable farming in the desert of Jordan - Sahara Forest Project



Israel ready to build Red Sea-Dead Sea project with Jordan

Aqaba, Jordan and Eilat, Israel are within sight of each other and are sustained by tourism as Red Sea coral reef snorkeling is popular. Europeans went there in the winter. There was a hotel on the Egyptian shore near them at Taba. It was blown up by Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda drove Christians out of El Arish in the Sinai. Preaching Christianity to Jews is illegal in Israel.

I do not know of any farms sustained with desalinated irrigation water. The areas south of Beersheva are not good for tree farms. There is limited desert scrub vegetation in erosion galleys. It is not forest. The Dead Sea has some tourist hotels, mud treatments and swimming in the Dead Sea. They have large scale evaporation ponds to extract salts including potassium chloride - potash. There is phosphate mining in the Negev.

 

[Strathos]

I wonder if God's promise not to flood the world is tied to keeping ocean levels in check? Just a random thought.

I doubt it, considering that if all the ice everywhere melted, the ocean would only rise by 70 meters, which would cover a lot of land, but not nearly all of it. So it wouldn't qualify as flooding the entire world.

 

[DennisTate]

I wonder if God's promise not to flood the world is tied to keeping ocean levels in check? Just a random thought.

That sounds logical to me.

From many different sources I am reading and hearing about an outpouring of the Holy Spirit at this time and for the coming thousand years.

A near death experiencer was shown that the Holy Spirit will change the way that the world economy and spiritual situation will be changed over the next two centuries. Howard was shown this in 1985 and I do believe it is beginning.

Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

Howard Storm's light being friends told him more about the new world to come. According to them, God wished to usher in the kingdom within the next two hundred years. In order to do so, God had rescinded some of the free will given to creatures, in favor of more divine control over human events. This new world order, according to Howard, will resemble some near-death descriptions of heaven. People will live in such peace and harmony and love that communication will be telepathic, travel instantaneous and the need for clothing and shelter eliminated. The lion will indeed lie down with the lamb.

 

[DennisTate]

I doubt it, considering that if all the ice everywhere melted, the ocean would only rise by 70 meters, which would cover a lot of land, but not nearly all of it. So it wouldn't qualify as flooding the entire world.

But even a one meter rise in ocean level will be disastrous in so many cities and nations.

Thankfully some good ideas are being put forward:

Sahara Solar Breeder Foundation official website

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Thank you for putting the other person's statement in a sub quote but they gave their name so.... you could have given them credit for their statement.

I didn't want to embarrass him... But I did link to the post that credited him.

As to fundamental energy I suggest visiting a used book store look for "Stephen Hawking's Universe" and reading chapter thirteen...

We both know the chances of finding that are remote; so why don't you describe the relevant part of chapter thirteen for me?

... but my larger point for those willing to approach this with an open mind is that I am convinced that we human are actually some of the weakest....... least well informed........ least energetic........ forms of "intelligence" in the universe - multiverse.

What has convinced you of that?

My point being that Mr. Al Gore giving in to Richard Dawkins Ph. D. and following his philosophy obsequiously is not particularly impressive to me, but..... his film An Inconvenient Truth was reasonably well done......... but Mr. Gore should be bright enough to realize that his film is not the final word on the topic of how best to attempt to stabilize the climate.

Did he say it was the final word?