My 4004 Challenge

[AV1611VET]

No. 6

I'm perplexed.

Didn't the building of the Panama and Suez canals "create" two more continents?

 

[durangodawood]

Is the sun yellow? I mean in real life, not in crayon drawings.

 

[AV1611VET]

Is the sun yellow? I mean in real life, not in crayon drawings.

As I understand it, it is not.

I've also heard a convincing argument that the Garden of Eden was created in [what is now] China.

The flag of Japan depicts a red sun.

 

[durangodawood]

As I understand it, it is not.

I've also heard a convincing argument that the Garden of Eden was created in [what is now] China.

The flag of Japan depicts a red sun.

Soundgarden depicts a black hole sun. So go figure.....

 

[Justatruthseeker]

You're transported back to the year 4004 BC.

Please answer YES or NO to the following items you would expect to see:

1. a yellow sun

Before or after the cloud cover was removed?

2. thorns & thistles

Nothing says they didn’t already exist, just that they would “now grow” in man’s tended fields despite his efforts....

Like tares will grow amongst the wheat until the harvest despite our efforts.

3. a moon with craters

No, that happened during the flood.

4. fossils

Depends how you want me to interpret “hayah”?

5. white cliffs, meandering streams, polystrate fossils

Yes, yes, no

6. stalactites & stalagmites

Are we assuming no caves existed with water arising from the ground?

7. rain

Open to debate on timeframe.

8. Egypt, Iran, China

No, no, no. Since all continents were once sea floor and all sea floor was once continents until the flood.

9. five continents

No, one. Although continent is the wrong word since there were just pockets of surface water.

10. polar ice caps

Perhaps since the stars were to serve as signs and season markers, so temperature varied.

11. more than one ocean

Don’t know, since it’s only one ocean now, gathered unto one place after the flood. They just call them separate oceans even though it’s all connected.... so if gathered unto one place after the flood, then before it was not in one place, right????

 

[PloverWing]

[3. a moon with craters ]
No, that happened during the flood.

For the moment, let's assume a young earth and a young universe, with catastrophic things happening during a global flood, which I think is the set of beliefs you're working from.

I don't see how a global earth flood could cause craters on the moon. Can you explain that one to me?

 

[Justatruthseeker]

For the moment, let's assume a young earth and a young universe, with catastrophic things happening during a global flood, which I think is the set of beliefs you're working from.

I don't see how a global earth flood could cause craters on the moon. Can you explain that one to me?

Sure.

The Mathisen Corollary: The hydroplate theory and the lunar surface

 

[USincognito]

Is the challenge to create more and more irrelevant threads?

And yet folks keep replying to them.

 

[AV1611VET]

For the moment, let's assume a young earth and a young universe, with catastrophic things happening during a global flood, which I think is the set of beliefs you're working from.

I don't see how a global earth flood could cause craters on the moon. Can you explain that one to me?

I'm talking about 4004 BC.

The Flood was 2348 BC.

As far as the moon is concerned, I think it was created pristine, but got its craters when it was caught in the crossfire of a cosmic battle between the good angels and the fallen angels.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

I'm talking about 4004 BC.

The Flood was 2348 BC.

As far as the moon is concerned, I think it was created pristine, but got its craters when it was caught in the crossfire of a cosmic battle between the good angels and the fallen angels.

The flood is how the moon got its craters. See post 27.

 

[AV1611VET]

The flood is how the moon got its craters. See post 27.

Sorry.

Not gonna watch a 3 hour video.

No offense.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

5. white cliffs, meandering streams, polystrate fossils
Yes, yes, no

How do you get white cliffs without fossils? You do know what white cliffs are, right?

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Sorry.

Not gonna watch a 3 hour video.

No offense.

And such is why people never learn. Knowledge takes too much time to be bothered with......

No offense taken, I understand most can’t be bothered to take time to learn something new....

And hence we get the same arguments over and over and over.....

 

[Justatruthseeker]

How do you get white cliffs without fossils? You do know what white cliffs are, right?

By not pretending everything has always been the same as we observe today....

Coral growth depends on temperature. During creation this was optimal. You know, humans not needing clothes for protection from the elements.....

You know, like evolutionists keep telling us the oceans of the past were not the same as today’s.....

 

[AV1611VET]

How do you get white cliffs without fossils?

From skeletal remains.

 

[AV1611VET]

And hence we get the same arguments over and over and over.....

I understand.

 

[Shemjaza]

How do you get white cliffs without fossils? You do know what white cliffs are, right?

I'm going out on a limb and guess the answer is "miracles".

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm going out on a limb and guess the answer is "miracles".

Yup.

God swept all those little white things up into piles and left them there to be discovered and properly interpreted.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

By not pretending everything has always been the same as we observe today....

Coral growth depends on temperature. During creation this was optimal. You know, humans not needing clothes for protection from the elements.....

You know, like evolutionists keep telling us the oceans of the past were not the same as today’s.....

Uh huh. Please explain how in this different state past chalk was formed without fossilisation. Be specific.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

But then no one ever asks how long Adam spent in the garden naming all the animals...... sigh.....

Oh gee, that small detail might throw everyone’s calculations off.... on all sides....