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Okay. So we strip mine the planet for rare earth minerals and create millions of tons of toxic waste to manufacture and dispose of solar panels and batteries in hopes that we may lower carbon emissions by a fraction of percent while other countries increase theirs.

I will guarantee that in not too much time, batteries and solar panels will be able to be recycled; even if the process may be long.


I just don't understand why you'd want to save money. As soon as you pay off a solar array on your house, it's all straight cash for you. And if you then sell it, the new owners get PURE benefit/
 
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I will guarantee that in not too much time, batteries and solar panels will be able to be recycled; even if the process may be long.


I just don't understand why you'd want to save money. As soon as you pay off a solar array on your house, it's all straight cash for you. And if you then sell it, the new owners get PURE benefit/
As soon as I pay it off, it will need to be replaced. But that is not the point. The point being that renewable energy often harms the environment elsewhere.
 
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As soon as I pay it off, it will need to be replaced. But that is not the point.
In correct. I was about to get solar panels put on (and then my basement had a leak nad needed to get replaced).

The system paid for itself in 20 years and most of the system had a 30yr warranty (certain things only being 15).

In the time I was considering it, max panel size available for sale went from 440W to 500W. So if I got the stronger panels it also paid off quicker.

The point being that renewable energy often harms the environment elsewhere.
Wind literally does nothing. They've painted one aerolon black and bird deaths went down 70%.

Lithium is extracted from the sea water.

It's not like O&G don't have problems at their extraction or processing points either so not sure what you're getting at.

People change their internal combustion engine cars like, every 10 years.... They don't last NEAAAARLY as long as a solar array on a rooftop would last.
 
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In correct. I was about to get solar panels put on (and then my basement had a leak nad needed to get replaced).

The system paid for itself in 20 years and most of the system had a 30yr warranty (certain things only being 15).

In the time I was considering it, max panel size available for sale went from 440W to 500W. So if I got the stronger panels it also paid off quicker.


Wind literally does nothing. They've painted one aerolon black and bird deaths went down 70%.

Lithium is extracted from the sea water.

It's not like O&G don't have problems at their extraction or processing points either so not sure what you're getting at.

People change their internal combustion engine cars like, every 10 years.... They don't last NEAAAARLY as long as a solar array on a rooftop would last.

How long does a battery last in an EV before it has to be replaced? Then, what happens to that old battery?
 
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