(moved) What can be done to improve the race relations in America?

[J Cord]

Please no accusations, I want to keep this thread open..meaning I want other people to be able to express their opinions without being shut down..i want people to feel comfortable enough to express how they feel and so far I think its only been a majority of black people who expressed there views, so id like to keep the convo open both ways...multipleways...plus, Who are we to say he's making stuff up? That might be something he experienced on a personal level.

Sorry, you're right. I'll edit my post now.

 

[hiphopopotomus]

African Americans should be given their own self governing autonomous region.
A country within a country.Of course relocating there would optional and those living in those states selected of other races would need to be relocated.

 

[RDKirk]

Its evident there's tension and anger..I can even see it cross over into the forums.

I think one obvious step is to of course hear each other out and make an effort to understand each person's point of view. However, the problem with that is that things can get heated really quickly and just deter from the intended goal.

Equality is what everyone is obviously crying from their soul, from whites concerning proper news coverage when it comes to black on white crimes..or just crimes period... To blacks with simple justice concerning white on black crimes ( these are just *some* of the things I heard) ...

However to do this it would require an unbiased mind...still a start would be nice.

Serious answers..only..

No pot stirrers.

Everyone is free to have an opinion..just let it add something to the goal of the thread.

Most racism will go away when we Boomers are all dead.

 

[RDKirk]

1. Stop talking about race.

2. Become color blind.

3. Expose racism,whether black, white, yellow, red, or brown.

4. Preach the Gospel, which teaches that there is only one race -- Adam's.

If you've done 1 and 2, you can't do 3.

Racism is a form of bigotry, which for Christians is sinful, particularly between members of the Body of Christ. Understood as a sin as, say, adultery...would adultery go away if pastors and other Christians stopped talking about it? Would it go away if we did not distinguish adultery from sex within marriage? If it would not work for adultery, it won't work for racism either.

 

[RDKirk]

Somehow the cosmos need's to turn white to black (mild pun intended,) and make all alleged privileges, rights, treatments and special gifting minorities claim white people in America get available ONLY to minorities. Then at the same time, yank all of those privileges away from white people in America, and give them exactly the privileges and treatment minorities claim they receive in America. (Since the "universe" does this, it will be an actual reflection, not an exaggeration of either side.)

Then, let those groups live for half a generation in that stasis of privilege reversed, and slowly wane it back as a generation of minorities are born into alleged white privilege talked about.


If there is no empathy, understanding, change for the better, or conversation within the first MONTH, then any other feat is futility.

Or do it the way the early Christians did in the congregation of Jerusalem: Put the persons being discriminated against in charge of the distribution.

 

[RDKirk]

This is going to sound terrible but until black people can figure out how to stop killing each other in record numbers, there can be no equality Black people are not able to come together as a people and deal with one another with respect. How can they (we) deal with anybody else with respect as in try to bridge the gap between two communities when we are not one whole community ourselves. Nobody can accomplish this but black people and nobody seems to be interested in doing it.

Sinners are gonna sin and pagans are gonna page.

No point talking about black people in general as long as Sunday morning is still the most segregated time of the week.

If the Body of Christ can't pull itself together, the world of sin certainly isn't going to.

 

[RDKirk]

African Americans should be given their own self governing autonomous region.
A country within a country.Of course relocating there would optional and those living in those states selected of other races would need to be relocated.

"Greater India" did that when the Brits split them up into East Pakistan, Nepal, West Pakistan, and India.

Millions of people were killed.

 

[tatteredsoul]

Or do it the way the early Christians did in the congregation of Jerusalem: Put the persons being discriminated against in charge of the distribution.

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. LOL.

 

[tatteredsoul]

Most racism will go away when we Boomers are all dead.

This was savage, but I kind of agree.

 

[J Cord]

Most racism will go away when we Boomers are all dead.

Yes, I think you're correct. Today's kids grow up knowing people from around the world, and often know them well before they ever see the colour of the skin.

 

[RDKirk]

Before Obama and his henchmen came on the scene, blacks were indeed progressing very well. And it is the Democrats and their illiberal *liberal* policies which have destroyed black lives in the inner cities. Obama comes from Chicago, and Chicago has had the highest number of homicides this year. What does that tell you? Does Obama care for blacks? Not on your life. Does Hillary care for blacks? Only as votes to be garnered through manipulation and pulling out the race card. She is getting KKK support right now.

No, you were simply not paying attention before Obama got into office.

 

[J Cord]

This was savage, but I kind of agree.

Just look at Trump support with under 30s. Or more specifically, his lack of support. I'm willing to bet nearly all those under 30's against Trump have friends that Trump has threatened.

A new poll has Trump in fourth — behind Gary Johnson AND Jill Stein — with young people

 

[Larry Wilgus]

Its evident there's tension and anger..I can even see it cross over into the forums.

I think one obvious step is to of course hear each other out and make an effort to understand each person's point of view. However, the problem with that is that things can get heated really quickly and just deter from the intended goal.

Equality is what everyone is obviously crying from their soul, from whites concerning proper news coverage when it comes to black on white crimes..or just crimes period... To blacks with simple justice concerning white on black crimes ( these are just *some* of the things I heard) ...

However to do this it would require an unbiased mind...still a start would be nice.

Serious answers..only..

No pot stirrers.

Everyone is free to have an opinion..just let it add something to the goal of the thread.

What a weak argument! We don't need more understanding; we need a revelation from God on how valuable people are. Ps. 8:6 says "God has crowned man with glory and honor, and has put us in charge of His handcrafted world." WHY ISN"T THIS THE FOCUS OF RACE RELATIONS instead of figuring out how to get along with people of different color, different incomes, different dress, etc.....

 

[rturner76]

Greetings david,
It's true, what you have said.

I've got a thing or two to say about prejudice....
to those who think that Germans didn't face prejudice, that the Irish didn't face prejudice, the Italians, the asians, the Puerto Ricans, the Cubans...
Everyone faces prejudice of one kind or another...
These people overcame the prejudices against them by showing their worth, showing their value, showing their work ethics.
It is up to each to establish their own worth. Look at people like Ben Carson, Martin Luther King, Jr.
I believe the United States does not have a black/white problem.
I believe what has fomented all the unrest is the black muslim movement in the United States, hiding behind the falsehood of a color or race issue.
The black muslim movement that said it was ok to have many 'wives', and children by many women, that it was ok to do mutah and not have a real marriage.
I believe it was this movement (propagated by Malcolm X) that has brought so many ails to the nation. Dividing Christians and muslims, blacks and whites. Starting a firestorm of hatred towards 'Christian whites'.
This is devil's work.

The Black Muslim movement united whole communities and brought people from drug use pimpery and prostitution to a clean mature way of life. The reason they preached to separate themselves from the white community was because they felt (feel) the ills of the black community must be remedied before there can be peace between the races. In other words you must out your own house in order first.

I don't agree with everything they preach but they have saved countless black lives and done a mountain of positive work in the black community. FYI Malcolm X was a genius who after he made his pilgrimage to Mecca preached unity of all people black what and every other color. He was struck down because of the success he was having in changing the way black and white people were looking at race in society and he was respected by blacks whites Christians and Muslims.

 

[rturner76]

Who established ownership of the land ? all land fit to live on has been fought over at different times in history even the Indians fought over land,some seem to think history started in 1492,war and conquest has gone on since the begining

War and savagery has gone on for countless years yet we try to call ourselves a civilized Republic or Democracy as if this country was not taken through exploitation and downright genocide.

 

[RDKirk]

Yes, I think you're correct. Today's kids grow up knowing people from around the world, and often know them well before they ever see the colour of the skin.

The Baby Boom generation was the last to be raised in apartheid. Younger people seldom actually fathom how different their society is from the one that we were born into during the 40s, 50s, and early 60s.

I, for instance, had never even known a white person by name until I was in the 7th grade. I was in my teens before I had in my teens before I had ever been in a classroom with a white person, in my teens before I had ever sat in a restaurant or in a movie theater with a white person. Boomers older than I may have not have actually known a person of the other race until adulthood. Of course, there were times we had to go to the white part of town...but white kids never had to go to the black part of town.

When I was a kid, there were almost no blacks appearing on television, particularly programming for kids, until the mid 60s. Check out YouTube--there are no blacks on The Flintstones or the Jetsons. No blacks on Leave it to Beaver. No blacks on I Dream of Jeannie or Bewitched. No blacks in any of the dozens and dozens of westerns (despite the fact that 25% of cowboys were actually black). No blacks on any commercials. (A rather stand-out exception was Twilight Zone. That program actually had a couple of nearly all-black episodes, and in one case even a black computer scientist. But that, of course, was science fiction.)

Segregation was taught to the Boomer generation as normalcy. Having a black person appear in normal life doing anything other than servile labor or entertainment was presented as an abnormal situation. It didn't matter whether your parents actually voiced that to you--it was clearly presented in all cultural aspects. It permeated our psyches.

What has surprised me in the last eight years is that I had thought the Boomer generation was the "transition generation." But I see now that we had merely surpressed that early training and have reverted to what was impressed upon us as children: "Bring up a child in the way he is to go, and he will not depart from it."

That was a dramatically, incredibly different racial culture from that of Millennials.

Even when you look at race-baiting today...who is doing it? Make up a list of the people you think most responsible for stirring up race problems. Your list will probably be different from mine, but I'll bet money at least three of the top five people in both our lists will be Boomers.

Right now, though, Boomers are in control of America. Boomers control the policies of industry, politics, government, and mass media. Boomers see race first--as we were carefully taught as children--and may see through race later.

But what I see is that Millennials look at other factors first. The problem Millennials have right now, though, is that they have to operate in the framework operated by Boomers.

 

[Tull]

War and savagery has gone on for countless years yet we try to call ourselves a civilized Republic or Democracy as if this country was not taken through exploitation and downright genocide.

Welcome to human history,if you can find a better place have a nice trip.

 

[Tull]

The Baby Boom generation was the last to be raised in apartheid. Younger people seldom actually fathom how different their society is from the one that we were born into during the 40s, 50s, and early 60s.

I, for instance, had never even known a white person by name until I was in the 7th grade. I was in my teens before I had in my teens before I had ever been in a classroom with a white person, in my teens before I had ever sat in a restaurant or in a movie theater with a white person. Boomers older than I may have not have actually known a person of the other race until adulthood. Of course, there were times we had to go to the white part of town...but white kids never had to go to the black part of town.

When I was a kid, there were almost no blacks appearing on television, particularly programming for kids, until the mid 60s. Check out YouTube--there are no blacks on The Flintstones or the Jetsons. No blacks on Leave it to Beaver. No blacks on I Dream of Jeannie or Bewitched. No blacks in any of the dozens and dozens of westerns (despite the fact that 25% of cowboys were actually black). No blacks on any commercials. (A rather stand-out exception was Twilight Zone. That program actually had a couple of nearly all-black episodes, and in one case even a black computer scientist. But that, of course, was science fiction.)

Segregation was taught to the Boomer generation as normalcy. Having a black person appear in normal life doing anything other than servile labor or entertainment was presented as an abnormal situation. It didn't matter whether your parents actually voiced that to you--it was clearly presented in all cultural aspects. It permeated our psyches.

What has surprised me in the last eight years is that I had thought the Boomer generation was the "transition generation." But I see now that we had merely surpressed that early training and have reverted to what was impressed upon us as children: "Bring up a child in the way he is to go, and he will not depart from it."

That was a dramatically, incredibly different racial culture from that of Millennials.

Anyone not able to get past what they see on TV is of questionable intelligence to begin with,i saw all of those things yet lived in the real world where there were blacks living normal lives all around me.

 

[RDKirk]

Anyone not able to get past what they see on TV is of questionable intelligence to begin with,i saw all of those things yet lived in the real world where there were blacks living normal lives all around me.

No, television was merely a reflection of society. I had already pointed out that in American society blacks and whites were separated, especially for children. You might have been a different situation, but that was not in any way the life of most white people.

 

[rturner76]

Welcome to human history,if you can find a better place have a nice trip.

Ethiopia was never colonized by Europeans but they did have a civil war in the creation of Eritrea. They are very proud of to be the only African nation that can say that. From what I understand it is a beautiful place and the women.....I was engaged to a woman from there who was the most beautiful woman I have ever seen, beautiful people there but I seriously digress.....