Modern day systemic racism, does it exist?

[RDKirk]

I know all of that.
Now, if its not coz of Asians working harder, what is it?
"Culture" in the abstract does nothing. It has to be acted on.

So what is it!
Luck?
Racism?
Smarter?

For instance, many Asian cultures arrive in America with concepts of family honor that permit practical Keh loan systems within the group. Their cultures of family loyalty encourage small family businesses in which children are effectively honor-bound to work the family business, subsuming personal ambitions. Their cultures of family respect cause younger generations to continue to respect, honor, and obey elder generations. There are also African groups with similar cultural values.

These kinds of cultural values--taking place in a country that otherwise lacks a hard social class structure---become an immense advantage that even native-born members of that country may not have.

 

[rturner76]

Who or what is stopping black kids from getting education? People get college grants all the time.

The way schools are funded, being in a poor area ensures a poor education. Are people in the "ghetto" usually poor? Yes. Because of housing discrimination, blacks are herded into certain areas to let white folks live in minority free zones.

 

[IWalkAlone]

The way schools are funded, being in a poor area ensures a poor education. Are people in the "ghetto" usually poor? Yes. Because of housing discrimination, blacks are herded into certain areas to let white folks live in minority free zones.

They are not herded there. They need to instill better values. Thats the systemic problem.. There is no systemic racism holding them back. Saying there is only enslaves their mind to opression instead of opening it to possibility.

 

[Estrid]

For instance, many Asian cultures arrive in America with concepts of family honor that permit practical Keh loan systems within the group. Their cultures of family loyalty encourage small family businesses in which children are effectively honor-bound to work the family business, subsuming personal ambitions. Their cultures of family respect cause younger generations to continue to respect, honor, and obey elder generations. There are also African groups with similar cultural values.

These kinds of cultural values--taking place in a country that otherwise lacks a hard social class structure---become an immense advantage that even native-born members of that country may not have.

Sure. I know.

 

[RDKirk]

Sure. I know.

It's the last sentence that is my point:

These kinds of cultural values--taking place in a country that otherwise lacks a hard social class structure---become an immense advantage that even native-born members of that country may not have.

 

[Estrid]

The way schools are funded, being in a poor area ensures a poor education. Are people in the "ghetto" usually poor? Yes. Because of hous⁵ing discrimination, blacks are herded into certain areas to let white folks live in minority free zones.

"Herded"

 

[Estrid]

It's the last sentence that is my point:

These kinds of cultural values--taking place in a country that otherwise lacks a hard social class structure---become an immense advantage that even native-born members of that country may not have.

Yup. Working harder.

 

[Eftsoon]

They are not herded there. They need to instill better values. Thats the systemic problem.. There is no systemic racism holding them back. Saying there is only enslaves their mind to opression instead of opening it to possibility.

There are well-documented phenomena which lead to housing segregation. 'Herded' is perhaps not the best choice of words. Redlining is one such phenomenon. It still goes on today.

 

[IWalkAlone]

There are well-documented phenomena which lead to housing segregation. 'Herded' is perhaps not the best choice of words. Redlining is one such phenomenon. It still goes on today.

What is redlining? The definition i saw was to deny loans to people who are a financial risk. Remember the housing bubble and how it hurt the economy? Thats what happens when you make high risk loans.

 

[Eftsoon]

What is redlining? The definition i saw was to deny loans to people who are a financial risk. Remember the housing bubble and how it hurt the economy? Thats what happens when you make high risk loans.

The practice I'm referring to is denying POC loans because they are automatically determined to be high-risk.
The same practise occurs digitally in terms of iSPs and infrastructure maintenance.

These are structural manifestations of racism.

 

[IWalkAlone]

The practice I'm referring to is denying POC loans because they are automatically determined to be high-risk.
The same practise occurs digitally in terms of iSPs and infrastructure maintenance.

These are structural manifestations of racism.

Which means what?

 

[IWalkAlone]

Black people get loans, cars and homes.. All you need is a good job and credit. You say they are being denied credit cause they are black?

 

[Eftsoon]

Black people get loans, cars and homes.. All you need is a good job and credit. You say they are being denied credit cause they are black?

Yes, it does still happen, despite having been outlawed.

Modern-day redlining: Banks discriminate in lending

 

[IWalkAlone]

Yes, it does still happen, despite having been outlawed.

Modern-day redlining: Banks discriminate in lending

How do you explain the fact that black Americans buy homes?

 

[IWalkAlone]

Are these black people qualified for a lone? I can't see greedy lenders caring about any color but green.

 

[Eftsoon]

How do you explain the fact that black Americans buy homes?

Very big mattresses.

 

[Eftsoon]

Are these black people qualified for a lone? I can't see greedy lenders caring about any color but green.

Yep, that's the point. They are eligible, but are being denied. There are clearly other interests which are more profitable.

 

[rturner76]

They are not herded there.

Yes they are. Housing discrimination is real

 

[IWalkAlone]

Yes they are. Housing discrimination is real

No its not. Black people live in nice places. They are not all poor and from the hood. There are laws against discrimination. There is no systemic racism.

 

[SilverBear]

Why are white and black below Asian americans?

If one was really interested and took the time to actually read about the demographics one could find that Asian American's tend to reside in areas of the country that have higher wages in general. More Asian American's live in California the state with the highest median income, then in the next 5 states combined. Meanwhile African Americans tend to live in greater numbers in economically depressed states and thus have lower incomes