Missing link was a lie

[sandwiches]

Please show me where that article says what LTTF said, Belk.

(Don't worry if you can't -- you're not fooling me.)

So, are you saying now that spontaneous abortions don't occur or is this simple fingers in ears tactics?

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

So, are you saying now that spontaneous abortions don't occur or is this simple fingers in ears tactics?

Bah, he never says what he's saying. Somehow the conversations in his head never translates well to the internetz.

He brings up "American Holocaust," yet he won't define what he means, while simultaneously throwing out desultory remarks and rambles on about exposing us.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

"The American Holocaust"

Amazon.com: American Holocaust: The Conquest of the New World (9780195085570): David E. Stannard: Books

Description:

Stannard (history, Univ. of Hawaii-Manoa), whose previous works include Shrinking History: On Freud and the Failure of Psychohistory ( LJ 6/1/80) and Before the Horror: The Population of Hawaii on the Eve of Western Contact (Univ. of Hawaii Pr., 1989), turns his attention to the devastating impact of the European intrusion into the New World. He argues that with more than 100 million people the Americas were not the unpopulated open spaces so often described and notes the squalor and disease that dominated Europe in contrast to the relative peace and harmony that prevailed in the New World. The arrival of the Spanish and other Europeans, he argues, brought about a demographic disaster of incredible proportions--the largest genocide in history--as a result of disease and depredation, as well as through enslavement and outright massacre. Though Stannard tends to gloss over violence and intertribal warfare in pre-Columbian America and accepts accounts of Spanish atrocities by early chroniclers as well as high population estimates for pre-Columbian America, his is a carefully researched, well-written monograph based on the latest secondary sources. A provocative account for public and academic libraries.
- Brian E. Coutts, Western Kentucky Univ. Libs., Bowling Green

 

[Split Rock]

Nice try guys, but I'm not buying it.

I'm talking about the American Holocaust, and you guys can confuse yourselves if you want, but I don't talk on an Arab Phone.

(Does anyone w/o an Arab Phone know what abortion-on-demand is?)

Do you understand that miscarrages are spontaneous abortions?? Are all these spontaneous abortions killing people with souls?

 

[AV1611VET]

So, are you saying now that spontaneous abortions don't occur or is this simple fingers in ears tactics?

Spontaneous abortions aren't funded by MasterCard.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Spontaneous abortions aren't funded by MasterCard.

No, they're funded by god.

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you understand that miscarrages are spontaneous abortions??

Yes.

Are all these spontaneous abortions killing people with souls?

We are way off the subject, aren't we?

800

 

[BananaSlug]

My wife has just had her third miscarriage. Spontaneous abortions are very common. Considering most women are already 2 weeks pregnant by the time it shows up on a pregnancy test, many women can have a spontaneous abortion are never even knew they were pregnant. While it seems that Christians are down on abortion, God has no problem with it.

 

[AV1611VET]

While it seems that Christians are down on abortion, God has no problem with it.

So you want to blame spontaneous abortions on God, but let a Christian say God sent Katrina or the Haitian earthquake and that's a different story?

I'm still peeved in this thread that you guys won't address the American Holocaust, but want to shift the focus on to God.

It's okay for someone to abort their child, but let God [allegedly] do it and watch out!

It was hinted in Post 800 that I'm a German Holocaust denier -- but I won't hint.

You guys are American Holocaust deniers -- in my opinion.

 

[Belk]

Please show me where that article says what LTTF said, Belk.

(Don't worry if you can't -- you're not fooling me.)

I have no need to fool you AV. You are perfectly capable of that yourself.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools

As you are so fond of saying.

 

[AirPo]

My wife has just had her third miscarriage. Spontaneous abortions are very common.

Very sorry to hear this.

 

[Split Rock]

Yes.

We are way off the subject, aren't we?

800

You tell us what the subject is, AVET. You brought up abortion. We are mearly pointing out that your god is king of abortions, that's all.

So you want to blame spontaneous abortions on God, but let a Christian say God sent Katrina or the Haitian earthquake and that's a different story?

Not at all, if He did so, we just would like to know why.

I'm still peeved in this thread that you guys won't address the American Holocaust, but want to shift the focus on to God.

It's okay for someone to abort their child, but let God [allegedly] do it and watch out!

You have the argument backward. If its OK for God to do it, why is it wrong for a woman to do it?

It was hinted in Post 800 that I'm a German Holocaust denier -- but I won't hint.

You guys are American Holocaust deniers -- in my opinion.

And you are a Divine Holacaust Denier -- in my opinion.

 

[Split Rock]

My wife has just had her third miscarriage.

Very sorry to hear this as well.

 

[Tomatoman]

Sorry to hear the news too, Bananaslug.

 

[Hespera]

Me too! the whole time I was pregnant I was so terrified that something would go wrong.

 

[BananaSlug]

So you want to blame spontaneous abortions on God, but let a Christian say God sent Katrina or the Haitian earthquake and that's a different story?

No. It is because you want to claim your God is one way then claim he is something else. "God loves children" does not correlate with how many times he killed or commanded their killing. I do not believe in God. I don't believe in any deity so I am not "blaming" anything. Spontaneous abortions just happen, there is no underlying reason, no greater meaning, just abnormal chromosomes or anything. It is just hypocritical to believe that God says abortions is wrong when it happens naturally all of the time.

I'm still peeved in this thread that you guys won't address the American Holocaust, but want to shift the focus on to God.

What the heck is the "American Holocaust"? The fact abortion rates have dropped? People now have better accept to contraceptives and public knowledge of its use.
Report: Overall abortion rates continue to drop - USATODAY.com

It's okay for someone to abort their child, but let God [allegedly] do it and watch out!

I honestly don't care if someone wants to get an abortion or not. I don't agree with it but it will be a decision they will have to live the rest of their lives.

It was hinted in Post 800 that I'm a German Holocaust denier -- but I won't hint.

You guys are American Holocaust deniers -- in my opinion.

What "American Holocaust"?

 

[BananaSlug]

Thanks everyone. It's been really hard for us but we are both still young. I'm also being cut from my biology position due to budget cuts. It has been a hard month.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Thanks everyone. It's been really hard for us but we are both still young. I'm also being cut from my biology position due to budget cuts. It has been a hard month.

BS, my sympathies go out to you and your wife. My wife and I too have experienced one miscarriage, and one still birth at twenty two weeks. We also have three beautiful and healthy daughters (7-5 & 20 mos.). I wish you and your family all the best.

 

[sandwiches]

Thanks everyone. It's been really hard for us but we are both still young. I'm also being cut from my biology position due to budget cuts. It has been a hard month.

I wish you luck with your family and finances, banana. I'm going through a rough period, myself.

 

[dad]

Your US history is as as good as any homeschoolers. I'll give you that.

As for biblical morals, why do you guys leave out slave ownership, polygamy, stoning for adultery, stoning for dishonoring your parents, stoning for not being a virgin on your wedding night, or stoning for worshiping other gods? You guys really get selective about your morals when it suits your purpose, don't you?

The biblical ways of life for Israel and the world, and later Christians, is a living, changing thing. It was God salvaging mankind from the fall, on through the present. He needed a people, and rules for the times they were in. Rules and sacrifices, etc with a purpose. It pointed to salvation. To pick out some rules in the past is to pick out what was needed in a time and place for the people and how they were and lived. Polygamy is no worse than lesbianism, in fact it still produces kids! So you can chose your flavor of the month sin, and try to make sins of other times less in vogue all you like. Fact is, there is plenty of sin, it is the state of man. The slavery, sodomy, mass murder, and oppressions of today are no better! Just different. If I asked a Roman slave if he would rather work for less than it took to eat and support a family at Wal Mart in the future, possibly be nuked, eyes melt in sockets, or whatnot, he might just prefer where he was! Hard to say. Stop blathering about the progress of man, it is a delusion.

As for the early settlers in the US, they did not come to have sodomy thrust on their kids, and sacrificing children by the millions in ritual abortion murders, or having their little ones offended by evo demoniacs mocking God.They wanted freedom to worship, not from it. And not closet worship. Now, everything ungodly is coming out of the closet, and Christians think they must go in it. Grow some spine, people.

Jesus was the God of the majority, that is not a question. He was the God they were talking about.

Now, personally I believe we are too far down the end time path in history for some reprieve, like several states going back under God. That likely would result in more time, and mercy. But, aside from real repentance of that sort of scope, all that awaits a God forsaking country in this period of history is destruction by fire in one hour.