Missing link was a lie

[Split Rock]

I wonder if 2 or 3, or 10 states signed something like this, whether Christians might flock to those places?[/SIZE] Better no country that one gone to the devil, I say!

If I lived there, I would move to such a state. But, hey, we all have our humble little opinion, I suppose.

You can have Mississippi and Alabama, dad... as long as you promise to succeed within 48hrs! Bon Voyage!

 

[mark kennedy]

Well, some may be surprised.

"A fossil that was celebrated last year as a possible "missing link" between humans and early primates is actually a forebearer of modern-day lemurs and lorises, according to two papers by scientists at The University of Texas at Austin, Duke University and the University of Chicago."
'Missing link' fossil was not human ancestor as claimed, anthropologists say

Ho hum. Kids, Isn't it time to not believe a lying word these dreamers say to begin with?

Read the article and tracked down what I think was the paper in PLoS, here's the link if anyone is interested.

Complete Primate Skeleton from the Middle Eocene of Messel in Germany: Morphology and Paleobiology

I really don't see the point here, it's a great fossil but it's significance is of no great consequence. The authors seem to think there are important insights into primate evolution but I don't see anything of the sort.

It's a cool fossil, however, I fail to see how anyone could mistake it for a 'missing link'.

 

[dad]

Read the article and tracked down what I think was the paper in PLoS, here's the link if anyone is interested.

Complete Primate Skeleton from the Middle Eocene of Messel in Germany: Morphology and Paleobiology

I really don't see the point here, it's a great fossil but it's significance is of no great consequence. The authors seem to think there are important insights into primate evolution but I don't see anything of the sort.

It's a cool fossil, however, I fail to see how anyone could mistake it for a 'missing link'.

Perhaps the point is that in actual papers, and circles of academia, this and other things is no big deal at all. However, the textbooks in schools, or media, and other places that disseminate information, like to make it sound like they know what they are talking about, when they spout off.

 

[dad]

You can have Mississippi and Alabama, dad... as long as you promise to succeed within 48hrs! Bon Voyage!

I'm not fussy. I would prefer any state that puts God back in schools, and tries to live somewhat according to biblical morals. If I were investing, I would also bet on that state over the rest of a country.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

I'm not fussy. I would prefer any state that puts God back in schools, and tries to live somewhat according to biblical morals. If I were investing, I would also bet on that state over the rest of a country.

While were at it, we could put Zeus, Poseidon, Allah, Buddha, Isis, Osirus, Thor and Oden back in schools.

And speaking of biblical morals, I'm partial to the being able to stone your wife if you find out she's not a virgin. This would make things so much easier, huh dad. I do have problems coveting my neighbor's ass from time to time though.

 

[dad]

He condoned slavery....

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. " (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Paul condoned workers to be true in whatever position they held. In that time slavery was one of them. In this day, there are positions, I would suspect that are as bad. So? What, you think they should have killed their masters?

He advocated the breakup of family relationships for those who would 'follow' him...

He advocated no divorce, loved kids, and asked an adulteress to stop it. He honored His mother, and asked John to care for her when He died. His first commandment with a promise was to honor dad and mom.

“Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth! No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine." Matthew 10:34

In other words, in comparison with the love of God, other loves are as hate. So?

He advocates disobedient children being put to death!....

“He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” Matthew 15:4-7

Nope. I didn't see Him killing anyone, or doing anything but loving kids. He was talking to people under the dead old law, making a point to them.

We no longer value these kinds of 'moral outlook'...we have moved on, we have built a moral code which more accurately represents what humans think about themselves and one another....and it (for the most part) works!

Men have slid to toward the abyss of murders, violence, child killing, sodomy, and lawlessness. The morals of Sodom are hypocritical.They talk about how great bylaws they pass in the gate, then gang rape men at night.

 

[dad]

While were at it, we could put Zeus, Poseidon, Allah, Buddha, Isis, Osirus, Thor and Oden back in schools.

And speaking of biblical morals, I'm partial to the being able to stone your wife if you find out she's not a virgin. This would make things so much easier, huh dad. I do have problems coveting my neighbor's ass from time to time though.

Biblical morals have nothing to do with ancient bylaws of Israel. The fact of the matter is that the US did not start out in a new land, because they wanted Zeus taught. So, you find a state where they want that, and be my guest. I could understand if you desired your neighbor's wife's ass, but your neighbor's??

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Biblical morals have nothing to do with ancient bylaws of Israel. The fact of the matter is that the US did not start out in a new land, because they wanted Zeus taught. So, you find a state where they want that, and be my guest. I could understand if you desired your neighbor's wife's ass, but your neighbor's??

The US started out because they wanted to be free from religious oppression. This is aka separation of church and state.

You want to teach god, do it at home. No one is stopping you.
Fact is, we are a diverse nation. A nation that was undeniably not founded on christian principles. Simply look at the constitution if you are unsure about this.

I also agree that biblical morals are reprehensible and outdated. (My neighbor doesn't own any asses!). As a society, the US has done so much better with morality than any theocracy that has ever existed, currently exists, or will exist.

 

[AV1611VET]

The US started out because they wanted to be free from religious oppression. This is aka separation of church and state.

Nope.

It is freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.

Separation of church and state ≠ separation of church from state.

In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, etc. Having undertaken, for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together into a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France and Ireland the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini 1620.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Nope.

It is freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.

Separation of church and state ≠ separation of church from state.

Nope. Sorry, you're wrong.

 

[dad]

The US started out because they wanted to be free from religious oppression. This is aka separation of church and state.

Baloney. They wanted separation not from God in any way, just the church/government of Europe, no? And Zeus had nothing to to with it.

You want to teach god, do it at home. No one is stopping you.
Fact is, we are a diverse nation. A nation that was undeniably not founded on christian principles. Simply look at the constitution if you are unsure about this.

Baloney. They could have done that in Europe too, no? They wanted freedom. Not freedom to have their kids molested by a sodomite preaching, creation denying, state. They didn't come to that land just so they could hide with their kids in a closet, while paying for satanic education and government.

I also agree that biblical morals are reprehensible and outdated. (My neighbor doesn't own any asses!). As a society, the US has done so much better with morality than any theocracy that has ever existed, currently exists, or will exist.

Biblical morals are truth, salvation, freedom, love, patience, longsuffering, unselfishness, generosity, wisdom, blessing, and the like.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Baloney. They wanted separation not from God in any way, just the church/government of Europe, no? And Zeus had nothing to to with it.
Baloney. They could have done that in Europe too, no? They wanted freedom. Not freedom to have their kids molested by a sodomite preaching, creation denying, state. They didn't come to that land just so they could hide with their kids in a closet, while paying for satanic education and government.
Biblical morals are truth, salvation, freedom, love, patience, longsuffering, unselfishness, generosity, wisdom, blessing, and the like.

Your US history is as as good as any homeschoolers. I'll give you that.

As for biblical morals, why do you guys leave out slave ownership, polygamy, stoning for adultery, stoning for dishonoring your parents, stoning for not being a virgin on your wedding night, or stoning for worshiping other gods? You guys really get selective about your morals when it suits your purpose, don't you?

 

[AV1611VET]

As for biblical morals, why do you guys leave out slave ownership...

Because it was never in There in the first place.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Because it was never in There in the first place.

You guys should really read the bible. It's embarrassing when us guys know more about it than you guys.

 

[nathanlandon1]

Slaves were not like African slaves of 400 years ago, and they were not treated as such. Slaves were like ALL OF US in the US now- simly people who owed a debt. In biblical times, unlike today, there was a etiquite to follow (given by God) for both slave and master. One of the more well known is freedom of debt bondage after seven years.

This is to clear that up for anyone who is confused about the misuse of slavery to defame the word of God.

 

[AV1611VET]

Slaves were not lile African slaves of 400 years ago, and they were not treated as such.

What's sad is: they'll claim no one in the Bible talked about evolution, because evolution didn't exist as a mature paradigm back then -- but then they bring up slavery which, as you say, didn't exist like this until 400 years ago.

Same for witches -- they want us to apply Old Testament witchcraft to witches today, so we can hang and/or burn them.

If I was a witch today (and praise God, I'm not), I'd be wondering who the real enemy is.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Slaves were not lile African slaves of 400 years ago, and they were not treated as such. Slaves were like ALL OF US in the US now- simly people who owed a debt. In biblical times, unlike today, there was a etiquite to follow (given by God) for both slave and master. One of the more well known is freedom of debt bondage after seven years.

This is to clear that up for anyone who has read to the 78th page...

Lol... ok buddy.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

What's sad is: they'll claim no one in the Bible talked about evolution, because evolution didn't exist as a mature paradigm back then -- but then they bring up slavery which, as you say, didn't exist like this until 400 years ago.

Same for witches -- they want us to apply Old Testament witchcraft to witches today, so we can hang and/or burn them.

If I was a witch today (and praise God, I'm not), I'd be wondering who the real enemy is.

What's sad is when people make the bible out to be something it's not. And to say that slavery did not exist is laughable. You guys probably think the holocaust relly didn't happen as recorded in history either?! You guys make stupid comments like this, and then wonder why we don't take you guys seriously.

Really, you guys are too much sometimes.

 

[nathanlandon1]

Lol... ok buddy.

What you may not realize, or care to realize, is that people other than yourself and those with whom you argue are not the only ones watching. Innocent onlookers - Christian and atheist alike - are watching the way you all handle each response presented.

For example, a reply like you gave (with no substanciation save a one-sentence attempt to discredit) is taken into deep consoderation by guests and members. Moreover, they will see how voluminous the thread is, the substance of it (arguments) and judge it accordingly.


I hope you find what you are looking for.

 

[AV1611VET]

You guys probably think the holocaust relly didn't happen as recorded in history either?!

You mean the American Holocaust that started in 1973?

It's still going on.

Go ahead -- let's see you deny the holocaust now.