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rnmomof7 said:
EXALTATION is for ONLY Temple worthy men that hold the priesthood and are married. To imply it is some "general "blessing is not the teaching .

A woman must be married to a temple worthy male holding the priesthood and she must be CALLED UP by him .

So actually it seems women ( and gays )actually have very little"free" choice in the Mormon church :>)
A good example of this is how the wife can/should tell her husband her temple name but the man should not tell his wife his temple name. These poor women can't get into the highest level of the Celestial kingdom without their husbands to call them forth. I am so grateful that my God is the one who takes me to Heaven rather than some eartly man.

God never taught that a man or woman must be married to live in heaven forever in the presence of God. But then again, God never taught that there were "degrees of glory" either. The "true" gospel of Christ is so simple and beautiful. So very sad that so many feel the need to turn it into something it never was and to try so hard to prevert it.

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rnmomof7 said:
EXALTATION is for ONLY Temple worthy men that hold the priesthood and are married. To imply it is some "general "blessing is not the teaching .

FB: The only requirement for anyone to reach the highest kingdom of God is to be baptised by one holding the proper authority. Exhaltation comes to those who are married in the everlasting covenant of marriage and neither can qualify without the other. The man can not go there without his wife, and a woman can not go there without her husband.

So actually it seems women ( and gays )actually have very little"free" choice in the Mormon church :>)

FB: Everyone is given a choice. I remain true and faithful to my wife because I not only love respect and honor her, I also love respect and honor God. The natural man would have me do otherwise. But I follow what is right. We all have tendencies which need to be overcome to bring us closer to God. For me I choose to obey.
 
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happyinhisgrace said:
A good example of this is how the wife can/should tell her husband her temple name but the man should not tell his wife his temple name. These poor women can't get into the highest level of the Celestial kingdom without their husbands to call them forth. I am so grateful that my God is the one who takes me to Heaven rather than some eartly man.

God never taught that a man or woman must be married to live in heaven forever in the presence of God. But then again, God never taught that there were "degrees of glory" either. The "true" gospel of Christ is so simple and beautiful. So very sad that so many feel the need to turn it into something it never was and to try so hard to prevert it.

Grace

Rhetoric... getting... tired.... :sleep:
 
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fatboys said:
FB: The only requirement for anyone to reach the highest kingdom of God is to be baptised by one holding the proper authority. Exhaltation comes to those who are married in the everlasting covenant of marriage and neither can qualify without the other. The man can not go there without his wife, and a woman can not go there without her husband.
I understand that is your teaching. Other "observant " mormons become ministering angels in the Celestial kingdom ...no godhood no goddess(hood)

FB: Everyone is given a choice. I remain true and faithful to my wife because I not only love respect and honor her, I also love respect and honor God. The natural man would have me do otherwise. But I follow what is right. We all have tendencies which need to be overcome to bring us closer to God. For me I choose to obey.

My husband and I also remain faithful to our marriage..not to become gods , but to honor the one that designed marriage , and a relationship with his church patterned after that relationship
 
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fatboys said:
FB: I know nothing about Duende except what he has posted, and I have probably missed some of his posts, so you may know more about him than I do. The reason I said back to catholism is that from what I knew of calvinist, they condemn all who are not calvinist.




FB: If could get a calvinist that I have had discussions with for a few years to comment on what you just posted, would that be of interest to you. As I asked are there different flavors of Calvinism? This person does not hold that any other religion is going to save execpt calvinism.



FB: Did I miss something again? What would you like to know?
I am a bit confused here: The only church I know of who condemns all not following their precise path is the Mormons. The claim that all creeds are corrupt and the pre 1990 Temple ceremony using a pastor as a hireling of Satan is rather insulting to Christians.

I would further question the credentials of this "calvinist" frankly since I have yet to hear a Ruling Elder, Teaching Elder, Deacon or frankly any single Calvinist assert such a thing. WE call that Heresy.
 
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Ammon said:
Rhetoric... getting... tired.... :sleep:
As are your 1,2, 3 word posts that same the same thing over and over and over....wait, your the one using reteric. How about posting something with substance other than just a word here, a emote there? At least I put SOME effort into my posts.

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FB: The only requirement for anyone to reach the highest kingdom of God is to be baptised by one holding the proper authority. Exhaltation comes to those who are married in the everlasting covenant of marriage and neither can qualify without the other. The man can not go there without his wife, and a woman can not go there without her husband.



FB: Everyone is given a choice. I remain true and faithful to my wife because I not only love respect and honor her, I also love respect and honor God. The natural man would have me do otherwise. But I follow what is right. We all have tendencies which need to be overcome to bring us closer to God. For me I choose to obey.
Being true and faithful to ones spouse is how God said it should be for everyone. However, being married has nothing to do with getting to Heaven. God never said such a thing in His Word but just the opposite, that there would be NO marriage in Heaven. Jesus said He is the Groom and his church (body of believers) are the bride. That is the only marriage that will be in Heaven and obviously it is not a fleshly human union like we have here on earth.

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Ammon said:
Rhetoric... getting... tired.... :sleep:
Do you expect Christians to be polite? You could try setting an example. If you're so tired, get away from the keyboard and take a nap.:sigh:
 
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GodsWordisTrue said:
Do you expect Christians to be polite? You could try setting an example. If you're so tired, get away from the keyboard and take a nap.:sigh:

Her relentless, ubiquitious, and sadistic insults to my faith required a response. It was all I could do to not light into her with a verbal lashing. I actually exercised a great deal of restraint.
 
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Ammon said:
Her relentless, ubiquitious, and sadistic insults to my faith required a response. It was all I could do to not light into her with a verbal lashing. I actually exercised a great deal of restraint.
Interesting comments Counselor. I would be curious about what counts as Relentless, Sadistic and Ubiquitous in your eyes.
 
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happyinhisgrace said:
Being true and faithful to ones spouse is how God said it should be for everyone. However, being married has nothing to do with getting to Heaven. God never said such a thing in His Word but just the opposite, that there would be NO marriage in Heaven. Jesus said He is the Groom and his church (body of believers) are the bride. That is the only marriage that will be in Heaven and obviously it is not a fleshly human union like we have here on earth.

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FB: Tell me how you can know the difference what is symbolic and what is literal?
 
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Ammon said:
Her relentless, ubiquitious, and sadistic insults to my faith required a response. It was all I could do to not light into her with a verbal lashing. I actually exercised a great deal of restraint.
Any faith worth having can stand scrutiny. If it can't, then it is one very weak faith.

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The problem with the Mormon faith is that they claim a prophet started it when the Bible claims that Jesus was the last Prophet..the end of times etc.

I have read and discussed their book with them, and enjoyed it but never at anytime did I feel they had any kind of superior (!) theology...in fact it was the complete opposite.

The Catholic church can trace it's origin right back to Jesus and his disciples...it then becomes very hard to argue against the idea of it being "the one true church" in a sense.

The Mormon religion doesn't have this kind of authenticity.

David
 
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If I really believed that Duende was a deacon I would have genuine concerns for the church in Mexico.

You sadden me, sister. None of us are perfect. And the Holy Catholic Church is just fine in Mexico, in spite of my being a Deacon in the small town of Rosarito who visits with Mormons. Christ meet with unbelievers. Are you better than He? Further, I am not converting to Mormons, I am only studying them, as I have many religions, and as do many of my fellow clergymen. True, meeting with Mormon missionaries is probably out of order, and I have discontinued my meetings with them because they wanted me to be baptized, and I am already baptized. You pass judgment too easily. Perhaps you are in need of repentance more than me. And you lack faith.

Que les vayan con Dios. :holy:
 
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calgal said:
Interesting comments Counselor. I would be curious about what counts as Relentless, Sadistic and Ubiquitous in your eyes.
calgal, any light shown on their teachings is a relentless, sadistic, and ubiquitous in their eyes.

Don't let the mormons get you down.
 
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