"Man cannot Save Himself" Bible Verses

[Zen_Woof]

Good morning.

Something a bit off-topic ... I'd like to extend my apologies to the person I offended with my Troll kibble picture. It was a joke and no harm was meant.

Metta,
ZW

 

[Rae]

Every one knows this as true in our own heart

--Not true. Many people believe that to be false, with their brains.

bible affirms the truth

--In your opinion, not those of non-Christians.

It is apparent that man cannot save himself

--Thankfully, the poor guy doesn't need to. The Gods love him as he is and don't demand that he be perfect when he can't be.

Man cannot earn his salvation and God cannot simply forgive

--It's your opinion that "earning salvation" is what's important, and yes the Gods can simply forgive. I'm sorry you believe otherwise.

 

[Ram]

First of all , Man is not devine (contrary to Patheistic claims), Every one knows this as true in our own heart and bible affirms the truth





Man is not divine, but a sinner (Romans 3:23).

Man is deceitful and desperately sick (Jer. 17:9).

Man is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23).

Man loves darkness rather than light (John 3:19).

Man is unrighteous, does not understand, does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12).

Man is helpless and ungodly (Rom. 5:6).

Man is dead in his trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1).

Man is by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3).

Man cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14).



It is apparent that man cannot save himself, I can challenge all the believers of pantheism and polytheism to comment about their salvation, I think every one agree that they are not saved (and they are trying) it simply proved that the nature of man is not divine!



Man cannot earn his salvation and God cannot simply forgive, but forgiveness must include justice. Works (Good Karma) are from gratitude, not in order to earn salvation The grace of God is deepened by understanding these truths, and it is in this context that grace is taught in the New Testament. It is often contrasted to salvation by works. In Ephesians 2:8-9 it says, “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works so that one can boast.” ‘Salvation by works’ systems believes that men can pay for their errors or sins by doing good. These belief systems hold that good and evil balance one another out, somewhat like a scale; if you’re good deeds outweigh your bad deeds, then you will be saved. Jesus teaches that the only standard acceptable to God is absolute perfection. Everyone who has sinned falls short of this perfection. No amount of good works can make amends. Therefore it is impossible for any man to save himself!

The same flour milled in the same rice mill.

 

[BourbonFromHeaven]

Ezekiel, Chapter 14, verse 14:
Now should these three men be in its midst-[namely] Noah, Daniel, and Job-they would save themselves with their righteousness, says the Lord God.



But then again, what do we Jews know about the Bible

 

[NickD]

Poor people, they have been given a raw deal by the priestly community in the past. Let us not repeat history.

Poor people who? Karma2Grace is rich having Jesus in heart.

 

[NickD]

At least the hindunet forums are clean for a few days since this dalit moved over here.

pagan

Now this is site is becoming unclean because of people like you.

You guys will be waiting a long time.

This Knowthetruth character or k2g as she is known here is an ex dalit from india. I have defeated her at her own game at the hindunet. I am still waiting for her to answer a lot of questions. She finally ran away from there and hid behind other ids. Now she is spreading her garbage here where it belongs. I am happy that she is here at these forums.

No matter what religion you belong to, first be respectful with others especially if the other person is a woman (which you assume K2G is a woman). I don't know what religion you belong to but the way you insult K2G and others is filthy.

 

[vajradhara]

Ezekiel, Chapter 14, verse 14:
Now should these three men be in its midst-[namely] Noah, Daniel, and Job-they would save themselves with their righteousness, says the Lord God.



But then again, what do we Jews know about the Bible

hehe... Burbon,

it would seem to be dependent upon whom you ask

i, at least, happen to think that Jews understand their religion... it would be sort of strange to adhere to a religious view which one does not understand, wouldn't it?

metta,

~v