LGBT- what scriptures do you have?

[Frank Jennings]

I was wondering. Do you ask this as a Christian believer or as one outside the Christian faith? Trying to either support or condemn actions by scriptural legalism would, in many instances, be attempted justification by the law. I sense here that a justification of female-female unions is being sought. You will find none in the Bible. A condemnation of such perversions if found throughout the word of God.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

There is NO Scripture that says a man may not love a man. For instance, take a look at John 19:26 (KJV) “When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!”

Here, we see Jesus loving John. Also, we see the love between David and Jonathan in 1 Sam 18:1 (KJV) “And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul.” It is very obvious that two men loved each other, deeply. David was not gay, (as many on these fora would have a heart attack if I implied it) for he lusted after Bathsheba, did he not?

MK, good verses the greek for Jesus towards John is in the Agape type - I guess.

Word: agapaw

Pronounce: ag-ap-ah'-o

Strongs Number: G25

Orig: perhaps from agan (much) (or compare 5689); to love (in a social or moral sense):--(be-)love(-ed). Compare 5368. G5689

Use: TDNT-1:21,5 Verb

Heb Strong: H157 H157 H935 H2142 H2398 H2654 H3039 H3040 H3173 H4191 H4885 H6213 H6601 H7069 H7355 H7521 H8104 H8173 H8191

1. 
   1) of persons
   1a) to welcome, to entertain, to be fond of, to love dearly
   2) of things
   2a) to be well pleased, to be contented at or with a thing
   
   For Synonyms see entry G5914
   1. 
      
   1. 
      The Hebrew word for love in I sam 18 is also used in
   Leviticus 19:18King James Version (KJV)
   
   18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

I was wondering. Do you ask this as a Christian believer or as one outside the Christian faith? Trying to either support or condemn actions by scriptural legalism would, in many instances, be attempted justification by the law. I sense here that a justification of female-female unions is being sought. You will find none in the Bible. A condemnation of such perversions if found throughout the word of God.

As you know Frank, there are various meanings for love. In fact, the text below(verse 14) has been used to prove woman on woman love before, But once it is read in context such a claim is foreign to the text and is just plan silly.

For just one silly example of scripture twisting see this link, Would Jesus Discriminate? - Ruth loved Naomi as Adam loved Eve And, by the way, Hebrew was my first language growing up and no I know who learned Hebrew before English would not even entertain such nonsense the author at the link claims.

2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Ruth 1King James Version (KJV)
1 Now it came to pass in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land. And a certain man of Bethlehemjudah went to sojourn in the country of Moab, he, and his wife, and his two sons.

2 And the name of the man was Elimelech, and the name of his wife Naomi, and the name of his two sons Mahlon and Chilion, Ephrathites of Bethlehemjudah. And they came into the country of Moab, and continued there.

3 And Elimelech Naomi's husband died; and she was left, and her two sons.

4 And they took them wives of the women of Moab; the name of the one was Orpah, and the name of the other Ruth: and they dwelled there about ten years.

5 And Mahlon and Chilion died also both of them; and the woman was left of her two sons and her husband.

6 Then she arose with her daughters in law, that she might return from the country of Moab: for she had heard in the country of Moab how that the Lord had visited his people in giving them bread.

7 Wherefore she went forth out of the place where she was, and her two daughters in law with her; and they went on the way to return unto the land of Judah.

8 And Naomi said unto her two daughters in law, Go, return each to her mother's house: the Lord deal kindly with you, as ye have dealt with the dead, and with me.

9 The Lord grant you that ye may find rest, each of you in the house of her husband. Then she kissed them; and they lifted up their voice, and wept.

10 And they said unto her, Surely we will return with thee unto thy people.

11 And Naomi said, Turn again, my daughters: why will ye go with me? are there yet any more sons in my womb, that they may be your husbands?

12 Turn again, my daughters, go your way; for I am too old to have an husband. If I should say, I have hope, if I should have an husband also to night, and should also bear sons;

13 Would ye tarry for them till they were grown? would ye stay for them from having husbands? nay, my daughters; for it grieveth me much for your sakes that the hand of the Lord is gone out against me.

14 And they lifted up their voice, and wept again: and Orpah kissed her mother in law; but Ruth clave unto her.

15 And she said, Behold, thy sister in law is gone back unto her people, and unto her gods: return thou after thy sister in law.

16 And Ruth said, Intreat me not to leave thee, or to return from following after thee: for whither thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God:

17 Where thou diest, will I die, and there will I be buried: the Lord do so to me, and more also, if ought but death part thee and me.

18 When she saw that she was stedfastly minded to go with her, then she left speaking unto her.

19 So they two went until they came to Bethlehem. And it came to pass, when they were come to Bethlehem, that all the city was moved about them, and they said, Is this Naomi?

20 And she said unto them, Call me not Naomi, call me Mara: for the Almighty hath dealt very bitterly with me.

21 I went out full and the Lord hath brought me home again empty: why then call ye me Naomi, seeing the Lord hath testified against me, and the Almighty hath afflicted me?

22 So Naomi returned, and Ruth the Moabitess, her daughter in law, with her, which returned out of the country of Moab: and they came to Bethlehem in the beginning of barley harvest.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

I really want to slap people sometimes. Can someone help me find a Scripture that specifically says it is not OK to slap another person, especially if I really, really want to?

God resersves slapping them himself. We are however allowed to turn the other cheek.

Psalm 3:7
Arise, O Lord; save me, O my God: for thou hast smitten all mine enemies upon the cheek bone; thou hast broken the teeth of the ungodly.

 

[Cindy4HIM]

I am looking for scriptures that specifically say that a woman or a man cannot love a person of the same gender. Not ones stating that a man CAN love a woman or related messages. I want ones saying they can or cannot love the same sex. Thanks!

Romans chapter 1 starting at verse 26 To me, it's clear. But read it for yourself. I would challenge you to ask yourself this question: Where in the bible does it say homosexual relationships are ok? Go to Genesis...he made them male and female..thus came the first people. Another scripture speaks of "man leaving his father and mother to be joined with his wife".. so please ask yourself..where is there evidence in God's word that homosexual marriage and relationships are ok with God.
Pray too...God will reveal truth to you. If you really want the answers? It's there in His Word but also the Holy Spirit will lead you..if you let Him. God Bless

 

[Daniel Marsh]

I get it, God hates gays, then...

Seriously, some people don't think through their theology . Do you think Jesus is really saying those lines to condemn every single man on earth, or perhaps to only condemn hypocrites who pretend they don't lust?

For God so loved the world .... which would include "gays", it is just Sin, he does not like. It takes only one sin to go to Hell.
Gay or Straight, if they have Jesus as their Lord and Savior, then they are going to Heaven. It is a lifestyle of Sin that puts us out of his favor. It does not matter what that lifestyle is.

I think it was likely an abomination in parts of the OT because it was likely associated with worship of false gods.

"Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen." Deut 27:15

1 Peter 4:3
For the time already past is sufficient for you to have carried out the desire of the Gentiles, having pursued a course of sensuality, lusts, drunkenness, carousing, drinking parties and abominable idolatries.

I think the Jesus quote simply shows everyone, how far they, we all fall short in our own righteousness.

 

[Your Brother In Christ]

I get it, God hates gays, then...

Seriously, some people don't think through their theology . Do you think Jesus is really saying those lines to condemn every single man on earth, or perhaps to only condemn hypocrites who pretend they don't lust?

No, saying something is sin, does not mean that God hates you. Jesus was not nice when he called out the pharisees as hypocrites, whitewashed tombs, and more. This did not mean Jesus hated the pharisees but the sin they were living in. In the same way, Homosexuality is a sin according to the bible, and I will treat anyone living in sin the same way I would want to be treated, if I was going to Hell. I will call it what it is and try to save them from hell, that is why Jesus died on the cross.

If you are questioning if Homosexuality is a sin, both the NT and OT are crystal clear. Here I walk you through it step by step:

 

[com7fy8]

You also have how the Bible nowhere says anything about how a man is to be married to another man, or a woman to another woman. There is only how a man and wife are to be married.

 

[FireDragon76]

No, saying something is sin, does not mean that God hates you. Jesus was not nice when he called out the pharisees as hypocrites, whitewashed tombs, and more. This did not mean Jesus hated the pharisees but the sin they were living in.

Ahh, the old hate the sin, love the sinner thing. I've never found that works out very well in practice.

I will call it what it is and try to save them from hell, that is why Jesus died on the cross.

Jesus did not die on the cross so that we must be sinless in this life. He died to make satisfaction for our sins, but that's not the same thing as only accepting us if we are perfectly sinless.

 

[SkyWriting]

In my personal experience those that advocate for gay marriage are intolerant and hateful to those of us who hold to the Biblical God made definition of marriage.

God defines marriage,
Genesis 2
21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Jesus reconfirms it in the NT,

Matthew 19:4-6
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Elsewhere in the NT, this definition of marriage is reconfirmed,


Ephesians 5:25: “For husbands, this means love your wives, just as Christ loved the church. He gave up his life for her."

Bottom line if someone is pro gay marriage, put the burden on them to show where God defines marriages as between the same sex. The burden is theirs to prove this.


Four Greek Words for “Love”

Adapted from Precept Ministries International
1. Φιλἐω (Phileō)
a. Definition:
i. Phileō is a companionable love.
ii. This love speaks of affection, fondness, or liking.
iii. Kenneth Wuest says, “It is a love that is called out of one’s heart as
a response to the pleasure one takes in a person or object.” 1
iv. Phileō is a love that responds to kindness, appreciation, or love. It
involves giving as well as receiving; but when it is greatly strained,
it can collapse in a crisis.
v. Phileō is a higher love than eros because it is our happiness rather
than my happiness.
vi. This love is called out of one’s heart by qualities in another.
b. Usage:
i. It is used in a number of times in its noun and verb forms in the
New Testament.
ii. In John 21:15-17, it is contrasted with agape love.
c. References: Matt. 6:5, 10:37, 23:6, 26:48; Mark 14:44; Luke 20:46,
22:47; John 5:20, 11:3, 36, 12:25, 15:19, 16:27, 20:2, 21:15, 21:16-17; 1
Cor. 16:22; Titus 3:15; Rev. 3:19, 22:15 (see also Titus 2:4 philandros and
philoteknos)
2. Ἀγάπη or Ἀγαπάω (Agapē or Agapaō)
a. Definition:
i. Agapē is called out of one’s heart by the preciousness of the object
loved. It is a love of esteem, of evaluation. It has the idea of
prizing. It is the noblest word for love in the Greek language.2
ii. Agapē is not kindled by the merit or worth of it’s object, but it
originates in it’s own God-given nature. God is love.
iii. It delights in giving.
iv. This love keeps on loving even when the loved one is unresponsive,
unkind, unlovable, and unworthy. It is unconditional love.
v. Agapē desires only the good of the one loved. It is a consuming
passion for the well-being of others.
1 Kenneth Wuest, Wuest’s Word Studies in the Greek New Testament (Grand Rapids, Michigan: Wm. B.
Eerdmans Publishing Co,. 1975), Vol. III Bypaths, pp. 111-113
2 Wuest, pp. 111-113
2
b. Usage:
i. There are only a few known occurrences of this word love outside
of the bible. In other words, this word was not used very often in
extra-biblical writings.
ii. It is used approximately three0hundred and twenty times in the
New Testament.
c. Selected References: John 3:16, 3:35, 13:34, 14:15, 15:9, 15:13; Romans
5:5, 13:8-10; Gal. 5:22; Eph. 3:17, 4:2, 4:15, 5:2, 5:25; Col. 3:14; 1 Thess.
3:12, 4:9-10; 1 Peter 4:8
3. Στοργή (Storgē)
a. Definition:
i. This love has its basis in one’s own nature.
ii. Storgē is a natural affection or natural obligation
iii. It is a natural movement of the soul for husband, wife, child or
dog.
iv. It is a quiet, abiding feeling within a man that rests on something
close to him and that he feels good about.
b. Usage:
i. In the New Testament storgē appears in the noun or verb form
with the preifx “a” and therefore negates the love and means
without this type of love. It is translated in Romans 1:31 and 2
Timothy 3:3 as “unloving” (without natural affection, KJV).
ii. In Romans 12:10, storgē is compounded with philos and is
translated “devoted” (kindly affectioned, KJV).
c. References: Romans 1:31, 12:10; 2 Timothy 3:3
4. Εροσ (Eros)
a. Definition:
i. This love is erotic love
ii. Eros is a love of passion, an overmastering passion that seizes and
absorbs itself into the mind.
iii. It is a love that is an emotional involvement based on body
chemistry.
iv. The basic idea of this love is self-satisfaction.
1. Though Eros is directed towards another, it actually has self
in mind. For example: “I love you because you make me
happy.”
3
2. The foundation of this type of love is some characteristic in
the other person which pleases you. If the characteristic
would cease to exist, the reason for the love would be gone,
the result being, “I don’t love you anymore.
3. Eros looks for what it can receive. If it does give, it gives in
order to receive. If it fails to get what it wants or expects,
bitterness or resentment could develop.
b. Philosophy:
i. The philosophy of eros is that being loved depends on being
attractive in some way to another person.
ii. Because of this dependency, eros would be considered a conditional
type of love.
c. Usage:
i. Eros is not used in the New Testament.
ii. Eros is not use din the Septuagint. (The Septuagint, abbreviated
LXX, is the Greek translation of the Old Testament.)

https://www.mcleanbible.org/sites/d...ources/Chap3/GreekWordsforLoveWS_Chapter3.pdf

The new testament says
that treating others
as you would have them treat you
is the essance of the Old Testament.

So all bases being covered, minding your own
love affairs is what you would wish other to
do for you, so that is how you are to treat others.

All gender based rules are hogwash.

 

[DrBubbaLove]

Ahh, the old hate the sin, love the sinner thing. I've never found that works out very well in practice.



Jesus did not die on the cross so that we must be sinless in this life. He died to make satisfaction for our sins, but that's not the same thing as only accepting us if we are perfectly sinless.

There is a difference between messing up and choosing to live a life of willfully messing up. We can ask forgiveness for both, but if our intention when we repent is to continue the same habit leading to the sin, am not sure that is going to turn out well.

If the repentance is not true am not sure how we could expect the forgiveness to be.

 

[Deadworm]

This thread urgently needs someone to play Devil's Advocate.
It saddens me that conservative Christians are so anti-gay that they fail to recognize 2 obvious facts:
(1) The Bible never addresses the situation in which 2 people of the same-sex genuine love each other enough to long for an intimate loving physical relationship.

(2) Jesus Himself never attacks gays. On the contrary, He recognizes and accepts a gay orientation:

"There are some who have been eunuchs from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are some who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can (Matthew 19:12)."

"Eunuchs from birth" is a rabbinic euphemism for men who, from birth, have lacked a natural attraction to women. "Eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven" refers to voluntary celibacy, not to men who castrate themselves. Obviously, others who need to perform the castration.

(3) The Bible provides this precedent for a same-sex intimate, loving bond being even greater at times than the marital bond between a husband and a wife:
David says, "I am distressed for you, my brother Jonathan. Greatly beloved were you to me. Your love to me was wonderful, surpassing love for a woman (Samuel 1:26)."

But, you say, David and Jonathan's love affair was platonic and lacked physical expression. Wrong! Read 1 Samuel 20:41:
"He (David) bowed three times, and they kissed each other and wept with each other. David wept the more."

But, you say, their friendship could not have been a gay relationship because it was not perceived as shameful by the ruling elite. Wrong! Read 1 Samuel 20:30:
"Then Saul's anger was kindled against Jonathan. He said to him: "You son of a perverse, rebellious woman! Do I not know that you have chosen the son of Jesse to your own shame and to the same of your mother's nakedness?"

But, you say, marriage is a covenant relationship and David and Jonathan had no covenant relationship. Wrong!
"Then Jonathan made a covenant with David because he loved him as his own soul (1 Samuel 18:3)."

A BIBLICAL GAY MARRIAGE: Did The Church Just Miss This One - Or Did They Intentionally Ignore It?

 

[Your Brother In Christ]

Ahh, the old hate the sin, love the sinner thing. I've never found that works out very well in practice.



Jesus did not die on the cross so that we must be sinless in this life. He died to make satisfaction for our sins, but that's not the same thing as only accepting us if we are perfectly sinless.

Ahh, the old hate the sin, love the sinner thing. I've never found that works out very well in practice.



Jesus did not die on the cross so that we must be sinless in this life. He died to make satisfaction for our sins, but that's not the same thing as only accepting us if we are perfectly sinless.

I can't believe that you just called Jesus a Lier, "I've never found that works out very well in practice". Jesus Preached it and practiced it, so you are calling your saver a hypocrite and a lier. Jesus sacrifice does NOT justify us living in sin, Homosexuality is sin it is plainly stated over and over and if you practice Homosexuality you will have NO part in the kingdom of heaven.

Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. - 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

NO, true followers of Christ can't tolerate any sin, and Homosexuality is a sin. So, true followers of Christ can't accept, condone, or tolerate the sin of homosexuality that will lead to Hell.

 

[FireDragon76]

If the repentance is not true am not sure how we could expect the forgiveness to be.

I'm Lutheran, our forgiveness is not dependent on our degree of repentance, but repentance is a fruit of faith that leads to good works. If your experience is like mine, my repentance has never been something I could count on, even on my best days. As Luther wrote on the third article of the Creed, "I cannot of my own strength or reason fear, love, and trust in God, but only that the Holy Spirit calls me...".

Of course in this life, we will struggle with sin, this is what we mean by being simultaneously just and a sinner. But I'm not convinced being gay is a sign we've stopped struggling. In fact it is a very damaging message, especially for gay people to believe. It leads to despair in many cases in people that believe it. I would always point a gay person to Jesus who has died for all their sins and forgiven them, and to tell them to never doubt that.

Note, this is a totally seperate issue from the ethics of homosexuality. But just telling somebody because they are gay and they "lust", that they are in trouble with God, is ridiculous. We all lust. We just do. Inducing guilt into people won't change that ,and that's not Jesus intention with the Sermon on the Mount. His commandments are aimed at the proud and hypocritical: mostly religious people who think somehow they ingratiate themselves with God. His promises and blessings are aimed at the poor in spirit, the broken, and the oppressed.

 

[Your Brother In Christ]

I'm Lutheran, our forgiveness is not dependent on our degree of repentance, but repentance is a fruit of faith that leads to good works. If your experience is like mine, my repentance has never been something I could count on, even on my best days. As Luther wrote on the third article of the Creed, "I cannot of my own strength or reason fear, love, and trust in God, but only that the Holy Spirit calls me...".

Of course in this life, we will struggle with sin, this is what we mean by being simultaneously just and a sinner. But I'm not convinced being gay is a sign we've stopped struggling. In fact it is a very damaging message, especially for gay people to believe. It leads to despair in many cases in people that believe it. I would always point a gay person to Jesus who has died for all their sins and forgiven them, and to tell them to never doubt that.

Note, this is a totally seperate issue from the ethics of homosexuality. But just telling somebody because they are gay and they "lust", that they are in trouble with God, is ridiculous. We all lust. We just do. Inducing guilt into people won't change that ,and that's not Jesus intention with the Sermon on the Mount. His commandments are aimed at the proud and hypocritical: mostly religious people who think somehow they ingratiate themselves with God. His promises and blessings are aimed at the poor in spirit, the broken, and the oppressed.

Struggling with sin is one thing, but living in sin is another. If you practice Homosexualty you will have no part of God's Kingdom and this is a fact that you can't escape.

Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. - 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 

[FireDragon76]

For God so loved the world .... which would include "gays", it is just Sin, he does not like. It takes only one sin to go to Hell.

How sad for you, that you have such a fragile view of God's grace. Step out of line with one little sin, and God squishes you like a bug... this is not the God I believe in. I believe in the God that you find in the 103rd Psalm: compassionate, merciful, slow to anger, abounding in faithful love.

Gay or Straight, if they have Jesus as their Lord and Savior, then they are going to Heaven. It is a lifestyle of Sin that puts us out of his favor.

I disagree. Grace is not earned. Grace is given to those that don't deserve it. (Romans 5:6)

 

[FireDragon76]

Struggling with sin is one thing, but living in sin is another.

Again, I'm a Lutheran, we are all simultaneously just and sinner. We all "live in sin.", we all long for that final redemption where sin and death will be no more.

If you practice Homosexualty you will have no part of God's Kingdom and this is a fact that you can't escape.

The word homosexuality is a modern word that doesn't even appear in the Bible. Which means its down to interpretation. Especially in the verse you mention, which is a translation (somebody's opinion).

Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. - 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

And yet Jesus says if we look at a woman with lust, we are an adulterer ourselves. Seems to me none of us should go to heaven. Thank God Jesus has taken away the sins of the world.

 

[ronandcarol]

LGBT- what scriptures do you have?
Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 18:22
22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

ronandcarol

 

[Your Brother In Christ]

Again, I'm a Lutheran, we are all simultaneously just and sinner. We all "live in sin.", we all long for that final redemption where sin and death will be no more.



The word homosexuality is a modern word that doesn't even appear in the Bible. Which means its down to interpretation. Especially in the verse you mention, which is a translation (somebody's opinion).



And yet Jesus says if we look at a woman with lust, we are an adulterer ourselves. Seems to me none of us should go to heaven. Thank God Jesus has taken away the sins of the world.

You have no more respect for the Bible then somebody's opinion. The Bible that you stake your sole on, but still seem to have contempt for it states:

Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. - 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

If you choose to only chary pick your verses from the Bible, then there is no difference between you and the pharisees. What did He call them, Oh ya, whitewashed tombs.

 

[Your Brother In Christ]